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Joshrand1982 said:
It basically means that we should not Diplo Push this year or the next for a while and focus our PP elsewhere. Like building more Berths and founding more Mining colonies. Especially the Colonies this time since one system has 4 separate Mining locations that we can take advantage of IIRC.
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Colonies in the GBZ are held apart from the ones in the rest of the Federation. In particular, that most recent system is already claimed by the Caitians, and will likely be their major staging point to the GBZ from here.
 
Joshrand1982 said:
It basically means that we should not Diplo Push this year or the next for a while and focus our PP elsewhere. Like building more Berths and founding more Mining colonies. Especially the Colonies this time since one system has 4 separate Mining locations that we can take advantage of IIRC.
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I still say we should set some stuff aside for Earth to make good their opportunity cost of supporting us in the Arcadian war.
 
Simon_Jester said:
This may have been that one glorious battle where the Federation really did science the shit out of the enemy, somehow, some way.
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If I may, the "Battle" of Panat V:
OneirosTheWriter said:
Captain's Log, USS Rru'adorr, Stardate 26003.8

No battle for phasers and torpedoes that!

It was deflector dish to deflector dish at five AU. Us on one side, the Gaeni on another, and the Kortennon on a third, everyone performing the sort of operations on an active star in an inhabited system that would make a theoretical astrophysicist operating on a supercomputer blanch. They attempted the star degenerency pressure nullification, we amplified thermal output pressure, they attempted to cause runaway tholian particle creation among the convection currents, we dropped coronal reflect phased radiation ... it went on like that for days, with each force unable to turn away from the star to properly pursue the other, thus leaving an opening.

Finally, the Lexington was able to engineer a feedback loop back through one of the Kortennon mentat tricks, and destroy a number of their ships, ending the siege of the star after gruelling days of effort.
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;)
 
Snakepit priorities (all of these should be in every plan considering that the total cost is only about a third of the budget):
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Ashindi]
  • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [Foreign Analysis/Xenopsychology]
  • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [Sensors/Shields]
  • Request Mining Colony at 2 Curacao VII, 8pp, 20 (30) sr/yr, 4 turns
  • Request development of Utopia Planitia, 28pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)
  • Request Academy Development, 40pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
Nice to have:
  • More shipyards/berths
  • Possibly more pushes
  • Possibly something for auxiliaries
  • Possibly BR colonies, the two options are both located conveniently and might decrease the feeder loop multiplier
  • Listening posts (perhaps one border zone per year?)
  • Outposts per Lathriss' recommendations (can wait, we are getting more info and the strategic situation is in flux, only get those we'll want regardless like for Grrizzi)
  • Reorganise Starfleet Engineering Command (can wait a year or two)
 
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We just found that large br colony in the last captain log. Also a 3mt berth at san Fran so we can dual build excelsior and later ambassadors. And some 1mt berths, we have two that can be done for 14pp each. Also the 2mt up berth at 11pp.
 
Nix said:
Snakepit priorities (all of these should be in every plan considering that the total cost is only about a third of the budget):
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Ashindi]
  • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [Foreign Analysis/Xenopsychology]
  • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [Sensors/Shields]
  • Request Mining Colony at 2 Curacao VII, 8pp, 20 (30) sr/yr, 4 turns
  • Request development of Utopia Planitia, 28pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)
  • Request Academy Development, 40pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
Nice to have:
  • More shipyards/berths
  • Possibly more pushes
  • Possibly something for auxiliaries
  • Possibly BR colonies, the two options are both located conveniently and might decrease the feeder loop multiplier
  • Listening posts (perhaps one border zone per year?)
  • Outposts per Lathriss' recommendations (can wait, we are getting more info and the strategic situation is in flux, only get those we'll want regardless like for Grrizzi)
  • Reorganise Starfleet Engineering Command (can wait a year or two)
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Hmm, on Lathriss' recommendations, shouldn't we drop a starbase at either Lagh Chegh, Tales Har, or both? It was one of the critical weaknesses in our defense, if I recall.

I also wouldn't say no to the BR colony: Fornost VII-19 40 (45) br / yr
We don't need the br, but heavy excess never hurt anyone and it's a more secure heavy supply than the GBZ and the transport route shouldn't decrease the feeder loop multiplier.
 
Nix said:
Snakepit priorities (all of these should be in every plan considering that the total cost is only about a third of the budget):
  • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Ashindi]
  • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [Foreign Analysis/Xenopsychology]
  • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 20pp [Sensors/Shields]
  • Request Mining Colony at 2 Curacao VII, 8pp, 20 (30) sr/yr, 4 turns
  • Request development of Utopia Planitia, 28pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)
  • Request Academy Development, 40pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
Nice to have:
  • More shipyards/berths
  • Possibly more pushes
  • Possibly something for auxiliaries
  • Possibly BR colonies, the two options are both located conveniently and might decrease the feeder loop multiplier
  • Listening posts (perhaps one border zone per year?)
  • Outposts per Lathriss' recommendations (can wait, we are getting more info and the strategic situation is in flux, only get those we'll want regardless like for Grrizzi)
  • Reorganise Starfleet Engineering Command (can wait a year or two)
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I'd say add another analysis team.

We need to have a permanent analysis team on each major power we border.
 
I know some people are keen on getting some 2mt berths as well, for superfreighters and future cruisers. I think it's prudent and cheap but not urgent.

Just to recap the pp picture:

We have a confirmed 402pp. Possible additional pp before this snakepit:
1) 2x5=10pp for the two Excelsior launches now that we have "Explorer Esteem (+5pp from Every Explorer Built)" researched
2) Starfleet Ambassador Ambition completion reward delayed until this year
3) Starfleet 200 Science Goal completion reward achieved just this Q1 (not sure if 250 Defense Goal achieved yet though*)
4) Any unexpected updates before/during the snakepit that gives us pp bonuses (or maluses)
...and I think that's it?

* edit: I think it depends on whether ships in the middle of refit count toward these Fleet Science/Defense goals. If they do, then we should've hit the 200 science goal sometime last year already, and hit the 250 defense goal this Q1.
 
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lbmaian said:
I know some people are keen on getting some 2mt berths as well, for superfreighters and future cruisers. I think it's prudent and cheap but not urgent.

Just to recap the pp picture:

We have a confirmed 402pp. Possible additional pp before this snakepit:
1) 2x5=10pp for the two Excelsior launches now that we have "Explorer Esteem (+5pp from Every Explorer Built)" researched
2) Starfleet Ambassador Ambition completion reward delayed until this year
3) Starfleet 200 Science Goal completion reward achieved just this Q1 (not sure if 250 Defense Goal achieved yet though)
4) Any unexpected updates before/during the snakepit that gives us pp bonuses (or maluses)
...and I think that's it?
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Numbers two and three should be a decent chunk of change. Gonna be a big snakepit year, methinks. *looks at the ideas for a second UP*
 
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Do we need that many new research teams? IIRC, we have so far received a free team when a new species has joined the Federation, and the moratorium will run out in 2 quarters.

Maybe we could also fit in a diplo-push on the Licori and/or the Obar. Especially the Licori, before the Romulans snatch them.
 
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2317.Q2 - The Snakepit
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    • 2317.Q2


    News of the arrival of an Ambassador from the Harmony of Horizon to the Starbase at Rigel was one of the two main talking points at Council. Their Ambassador arrived on a lightly armed science cruiser that shows sign of being at least the Federation's technological equal, and likely ahead in a few areas. From what the FDS was able to discern, Horizon is a large and powerful polity. They have a policy of uplift for pre-warp cultures, and they say that it was an uplift gone wrong that led to their unfortunate history with the Tauni. Despite their best intentions, Tauni dissidents began to take violent action. The Captain of the vessel faced by the Courageous was one who lost family in one of the terrorist actions of the Tauni separatists, and this tragically escaped the bureaucracy's notice so he was unable to get the proper help. They deeply regret the incident and have en route compensation for the lost auxiliary ships to the Tauni government via Starfleet, as well as compensation for any harm that befell members of the Courageous' crew.

    The Tauni for their part are full of warnings about the ability of Horizon's ambassadors to spin straw into gold, and that the real reason they withdrew was almost certainly to work their non-violent takeover methods from a position where their necks weren't on the line.

    -

    The Moratorium declared on addition of new members to the Federation is over, and there is a considerable debate on who ought to be approached first. The Development faction is applying the brakes to any of the wilder proposals of mass entry, however, it is certain that at least one accession will occur this year. A number of affiliates in the intervening years have reached the point of being willing to join the Federation as Full Members.

    -


    Conclaves of Queens and High Queens came together, endowed with the will of their colony-families, and have returned to the Council the four existing Councillors.

    [ ][COUNCIL] Submit a plan to the Council
    (You may select any number of options, as long as you can pay the Political Will cost. You currently have four-hundred and twelve (412) Political Will to spend.

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    Federation Council Options for 2317.Q2
    With 441pp available, a lot of options may be taken. If many projects of a similar type are undertaken (most particularly, if the Engineering resources are stretched too thin) it may cause delays in implementation.
    • NEW Request a Sweeping Tactical Review, which will clear all roles and allow them to be redefined en mass, 50pp
    • NEW Advocate for a particular Affiliate to be Ratified as a Member first, 180pp
    • NEW Push for two new members this year, 180pp
    • Request Mining Colony at 2 Curacao, 8pp, 20 (30) sr/yr, 4 turns
    • Request Mining Colony at Fornost VII-19, 8pp, 40 (45) br/yr, 8 turns
    • Request Mining Colony at Kappa Tau, 8pp, 15 (20) br/yr, 4 turns
    • Request Mining Colony at Proxima Eridani, 8pp, 15 (20) br/yr, 4 turns
    • Request development of San Francisco Fleet Yards, 14pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request development of 40 Eridani A Shipyards, 18pp (4 turns, gain new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request development of Ana Font Shipyard, 14pp (4 turns, gain 1 new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request development of Lor'Vela Orbital Construction Facility, 14pp (4 turns, gain 1 new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request development of Oreasa Starfleet Yards, 14pp (4 turns, gain 1 new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request development of Intazzi Shipyards, 14pp (4 turns, gain 1 new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request development of Lasieth Craft Yards, 8pp (4 turns, gain 1 new 1m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request Excelsior berth at a shipyard, 32pp (6 turns, gain new 3m t berth) [+5 for every extra 3mt berth present at shipyard past the first]
    • Request Cruiser berth at Utopia Planitia, 11pp (6 turns, gain new 2m t berth) [Can take multiple times, +5pp per subsequent build]
    • Request development of Utopia Planitia, 28pp, (4 turns, gain 1 3mt, 1 1mt berth)
    • Request new Shipyard at Amarkia, 33pp (12 turns, 1 3mt Berth, 1 1mt Berth)
    • Request new Shipyard at Ferasa, 22pp, (12 turns, 1 3mt Berth)
    • Request new Shipyard at Rigel, 22pp, (12 turns, 1 3mt Berth)
    • Request new Shipyard at Indoria, 18pp (12 turns, 1 1mt Berth)
    • Request new Shipyard at Gaen, 33pp, (12 turns, 2 x 2mt Berth)
    • NEW Request new Auxiliary Shipyard at <System), 40pp, (12 turns, 1x2mt, 4x1mt Berth)
    • Request new Starbase I [Write in Sector] 15pp for home sectors or CBZ , 25pp for KBZ, +12pp for each Starbase past the first in-sector - GBZ Invalid
    • Reduce Militarisation Level 80pp
    • Increase Threat Level 60pp
    • Request Ongoing Budget increase 60pp (Roll for success)
    • Request Allocation for an Excelsior's resources, one-off-infusion of an Excelsior's cost, 45pp
    • Request Academy Development, 45pp (Gain +.5 Officers/Enlisted/Techs throughput)
    • Request Science Academy Development, 15pp (Gain +1 Techs throughput)
    • Request Temporary Explorer Corps Recruitment Drive, 25pp, (Gain 2 Officer, 2 Enlisted, 2 Techs, PLUS Convert 2 Officer, 2 Enlisted, 2 Techs from normal service)
    • Request Start of General Cruiser project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 18pp
    • Request Start of Combat Frigate project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 20pp
    • Request Start of Garrison Frigate project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 20pp
    • Request Start of Science Frigate project, receiving one-off boost of Research Points and go-ahead for some projects, 10pp
    • Request new Tech Team to be added to your Ship Design Bureau, 30pp
    • Request focused Diplomacy on a potential member species, 20pp (One affiliate or prospective race will undergo accelerate diplomacy) [Can be taken up to four times]
    • Reorganise a Starfleet Command from a Rear Admiral position to a Vice Admiral position. Pick one: 30pp for Medical, 30pp for Personnel, 25pp for Explorer Corps.
    • Reorganise a Starfleet Command from a Vice Admiral position to an Admiral position. Pick one: 50pp for Shipyard Ops, 55pp for Ship Design Bureau, 45pp for Starfleet Tactical (This may create subordinate Vice Admiral positions)
    • Reorganise Starfleet Engineering Command to be a separate reporting Command that reports directly to Commander, Starfleet, 60pp
    • Sponsor efforts to create additional Critical Ship Infrastructure on another world, 50pp (Pick world)
    • Sponsor efforts to create Heavy Industrial park to reduce construction times by 25% in that system when making either a parallel or serial build, provides Heavy Industry options pre-SoE, 8 turns, 115pp (pick world)
    • NEW Sponsor efforts for a Major Shipyard Preparations to pave the way for a Utopia Planitia style shipyard, 4 turns, 75pp
    • Deploy Improved Listening Posts to a Border Zone to gain a 25% chance of generating +1 Intel report for powers on that border. (pick border zone), 20pp
    • Acquire additional resources for Starfleet Intelligence Gathering, 70pp (Gain +1 Intel Report per year)
    • Acquire additional resources to establish a Horizon Desk for Starfleet Intel, 30pp (Gain +1 Dedicated Horizon intel report)
    • Acquire additional resources to establish an ISC Desk for Starfleet Intel, 30pp (Gain +1 Dedicated ISC intel report)
    • Declare a Horizon Border Zone, 20pp
    • Declare a Seyek Border Zone (Seyek-Cardassian Border), 20pp
    • Declare a Rimward Border Zone (Dawiar border, some Caitian colonies, some Themis), 20pp

    (Pick 2, top 2 vote getters will be taken)
    [ ][TECH] North Apada Industrial Council (Sk 3, Starship Construction / Cruisers)
    [ ][TECH] Inid Uttar Institute (Sk 3, Sensors / Propulsion)
    [ ][TECH] Technocracy Interstellar Ministry (Sk 3, Diplomacy / Computing)
    [ ][TECH] Kedaia Naar Institute (Sk 3, Offensive / Defensive Doctrine)
    [ ][TECH] Henn-Makad Engineering Institute (Sk 3, Starbases / Minerals)
    [ ][TECH] Pallas-Abat Institute (Sk 3, Warp / Cruisers)

    ====

    Federation Grading:
    Current Minimum Science = 100 [Now 222]
    Current Maximum Combat = 455 [Now 274] *

    (Maximum Combat is a Soft cap, will gain +1 Militarisation per 5% of cap over - Each point of Threat Level adds 5% to Max Combat)

    Minimum Concurrent 5 Year Missions = 4
    Current Militarisation Level = 0
    Current Federation Threat Level = 15 (Increased by 5 with reappraisal after discovery of new major powers)

    * Will start calculating necessary discounts when you get closer to the cap

    Council Objectives:
    200 Science by 2321 [222] - Will count as complete next snakepit
    250 Defence by 2321 [257] - Will count as complete next snakepit

    Starfleet Ambitions:
    Have Ambassador prototype into production by 2321
    +50pp gained, counts as awarded at end of Q2

    [ ][AMB] Announce new Starfleet Ambition

    Federation Council:
    President - Arsharra N'Gir, Development Faction

    Factions -
    Expansionist (Human, Andor) - 23% [Langford (Earth), Singh (Alpha Centauri)]
    Pacifist (Vulcan) - 30% [Stesk (Vulcan), T'Torah (82 Eridani)]
    Hawkish (Amarki) - 15% [Korielis (Tales Har), Aelanna (Leas Akaam)]
    Development (Tellar) 25% [Jorth (Tellar), Sadek (Atatan)]
    Mercantile (Rigel) 7% [Rangyad (Rigel), Meiyama (Welleck)]


    [Next Elections - (2318) Original Four, (2319) Rigel/Indoria]

    (Species listed in brackets are principal backers, not exclusive membership)

    Current Federation Full Members:
    Humans
    Vulcans
    Andorians
    Tellarites
    Amarki
    Betazoids
    Caitians
    Rigellians
    Apiata
    Indorians
    Gaeni

    Pending Ratification
    Caldonians
    Orions
    Seyek

    Current Federation Affiliates:
    Qloathi 490/500 + 27 = 500/500
    Risa 499/500 + 37 = 500/500
    Kadeshi 328/500 + 25 = 353/500 - (I hope no one is expecting anything major for 300+ here)
    Honiani 351/500 + 24 = 375/500
    Ked Paddah 276/500 + 43 = 319/500
    Yan-Ros 364/500 + 24 = 388/500
    Laio 164/500 + 30 = 194/500
    Tauni 245/500 + 42 = 287/500

    Currently Known Others Possible Members:
    Bajorians 109/100 - Affiliate Status impossible [Cardassian Patronage]
    Yrillians 355/100 - Affiliate Membership Internally + Externally Obstructed, but lines of dialogue opened
    Dawiar 101/100 - Affiliate Status impossible [Cardassian Client]
    Ashidi 93/100
    Gretarians 110/100 - Affiliate status blocked externally and internally, but the idea is being floated
    Dylaarians 60/100
    Hishmeri 64/100
    Sydraxians 50/100
    Lamarck 50/100
    Sotaw 35/100
    Licori 25/100 - Affiliate Status impossible [Recently at war]
    Ittick-ka 25/100 + 29 = 54/100
    Lecarrens -30/100
    Konen - x/100
    Goshawnar - x/100

    Major Powers
    Romulan Star Empire - Treaty of Mars
    Klingon Empire - Khitomer Accords
    Cardassian Union - Treaty of Celos
    Ferengi - Limited
    Interstellar Commonwealth - Positive beginnings
    Harmony of Horizon - Negative beginnings
     
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    • OneirosTheWriter said:
    News of the arrival of an Ambassador from the Harmony of Horizon to the Starbase at Rigel was one of the two main talking points at Council. Their Ambassador arrived on a lightly armed science cruiser that shows sign of being at least the Federation's technological equal, and likely ahead in a few areas. From what the FDS was able to discern, Horizon is a large and powerful polity. They have a policy of uplift for pre-warp cultures, and they say that it was an uplift gone wrong that led to their unfortunate history with the Tauni. Despite their best intentions, Tauni dissidents began to take violent action. The Captain of the vessel faced by the Courageous was one who lost family in one of the terrorist actions of the Tauni separatists, and this tragically escaped the bureaucracy's notice so he was unable to get the proper help. They deeply regret the incident and have en route compensation for the lost auxiliary ships to the Tauni government via Starfleet, as well as compensation for any harm that befell members of the Courageous' crew.

    The Tauni for their part are full of warnings about the ability of Horizon's ambassadors to spin straw into gold, and that the real reason they withdrew was almost certainly to work their non-violent takeover methods from a position where their necks weren't on the line.
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    Yeeeeaaaaahhh not buying it.
     
    For institutes we should pick these ones:

    [X][TECH] Inid Uttar Institute (Sk 3, Sensors / Propulsion)
    [X][TECH] Henn-Makad Engineering Institute (Sk 3, Starbases / Minerals)

    This one is also pretty good:

    [ ][TECH] Technocracy Interstellar Ministry (Sk 3, Diplomacy / Computing)

    We don't need another cruiser team (UP can do the job alone), and two doctrine types are not useful on the same team.
     
    Having to figure out the Harmony stretches our intel slots even thinner, so I am strongly in favour of buying another intel report.

    Should we send another bunch of diplomats to the Ittick Ka? They might have some fun things to say about the Hishmeri.
    Pushing the Lamarck is also of critical importance if we want to put some people who only recently learned what a deflector dish is on our next explorer corps ship.
     
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