Huh, now we actually have mentat captives, and still no emergency research options.
Well, what do you imagine the emergency options looking like?

"Reverse the mentat-forming process" is almost certainly a huge program and we won't even have the faintest idea where to begin until the mentat prisoners we have have undergone medical examination and so on. Some things just plain take weeks to happen. Some things take weeks even if only to figure out how they can happen.
 
The choice here seems to be one internal diplo team for 20 vs red squad for 4 and perhaps some ships and maybe the 8-point Tellarite HI. There is the final 10-point engineering team, but it's out of Rigel's deteriorating support, which may not be wise. Perhaps we should spend 10 and save 10, too.
 
A temporal backlash not far from the system where the USS Lion disappeared was responsible for knocking out communication and warp drive.

Huh, so in retrospect the Lion was probably another victim of the mentats.

"Yes, including forty mentats, many of them who have had the full treatment," explains Fischer. "Many of them involuntarily."

This will make a good propaganda piece at least, especially if we can turn any of the mentats.
 
External Diplomacy Teams
Federation Diplomatic Service Ambassadorial Team 4 - Conduct half-strength diplomatic push on Laio - +11 to Relations with Laio
UESPA Offworld Diplomacy Team - Convey a write-in request to <Ked Paddah> to begin coordinating war effort with Federation - Progress made

On Ambassadorial Team 4, how long will it take to conduct the half-strength push and get the +11? Is there an ETC to complete? Will they automatically keep pushing 1/quarter until we remove them from the task?

Order of Battle
Tailward Theatre, Vice Admiral Viraan zh'Dohlen
Sol Sector
Rigel Sector
Vulcan Sector
Andor Sector
Klingon Border Zone
Romulan Border Zone
Licori Border Zone

Weren't you going to add a vote on where to assign the Rru'adorr within the LBZ force?

Illuminated Technocracy of Gaen

External Diplomacy Teams

Technocracy Interstellar Ministry - Attempting to demonstrate the difference between Gaeni science and Mentat science to the Ked Paddah - Making progress

Hah! It's always fun to see what you've slipped into these accordion spoilers that not everyone checks.
 
The choice here seems to be one internal diplo team for 20 vs red squad for 4 and perhaps some ships and maybe the 8-point Tellarite HI. There is the final 10-point engineering team, but it's out of Rigel's deteriorating support, which may not be wise. Perhaps we should spend 10 and save 10, too.

I too am not so sure we want to spend all 20 points. We're getting to the point where I'd rather ration war support for the long term. Maybe we should have unassigned the Federation Council Emergency Committee.
 
So, they force their own citizens to undergo a process that shortens life expectation and makes them mentally unstable? That should do something for the war support when it hits the news.
 
[X][SHIP] Task Force 4

EDIT: I think that Task Force 4 could use one more heavy hitter. It's a little under-powered right now if it had to hold off a serious strike. So I'm assigning the Rru'adorr there.

[X][WS] Plan Recon and Diplomacy
-[X] Starfleet Academy Red Squad Runabouts - Recon team (4 cost for Starfleet, gain +1 to outpost and starbase attempts to detect incoming ships)
-[X] Generate Generic Internal Diplomacy Team from United Earth (10 Cost to Starfleet, 5 Cost to Member World, gain Internal Diplomacy Team)

This is pretty cost efficient. We get another recon team and we get a generic team, with 14 of the cost from Starfleet (the place we're least worried about losing war support).

Let's get Red Squad, a turtleship, a connie-b, and two centaur-a. Alternately get the Tellarite HI and a turtleship. Leave 10 points for emergencies. Next turn unassign the FCEC.

How about my proposal above? EDIT: Benefit is that we can assign the generic team to start raising war support, cushioning shock, and that sort of thing.
 
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Mentats given the full treatment "involuntarily", eh? That could be useful in some respect, I'm sure...

EDIT: That is, having live examples of this who can talk to people about it.
 
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The choice here seems to be one internal diplo team for 20 vs red squad for 4 and perhaps some ships and maybe the 8-point Tellarite HI. There is the final 10-point engineering team, but it's out of Rigel's deteriorating support, which may not be wise. Perhaps we should spend 10 and save 10, too.
I'm not sure we CAN save 10, but we can certainly choose not to spend all we have.

Any internal diplomacy teams we recruit are likely to be assigned to prop up war support. We could make a rough estimate on how long such a team would take to pay for itself, but I'm not sure how long we've had the internal diplomacy teams in play doing that, so we might not have a big enough sample size.

Huh, so in retrospect the Lion was probably another victim of the mentats.
Honestly, I really doubt it. We lost the Lion on a separate mission at more or less the same time we met the Licori. The anomaly is somewhere near Licori space, but we had no indications of it being an artificial phenomenon back when we first encountered it.

It is far more likely that either;
1) Blizzard fell prey to a natural phenomenon related to the one that swallowed up the Lion, or
2) While the event that befell the Lion was naturally occuring, AFTER that, mentats started poking it.

This will make a good propaganda piece at least, especially if we can turn any of the mentats.
Well, the Harkonnen-expies having trouble maintaining reliability and loyalty among people they abuse seems probable. I bet we can do that.

On the other hand, it also helps to explain some of the demented behavior we've seen from mentats. A person who knowingly signs up to lose decades of life in exchange for hypercharging their mental capacities may be a glory hound or a short-sighted, reckless individual... But a person who has such a thing forced on them will feel intense regret and know they have little to live for except their work. They may be even crazier.

I too am not so sure we want to spend all 20 points. We're getting to the point where I'd rather ration war support for the long term. Maybe we should have unassigned the Federation Council Emergency Committee.
Maybe, but the catch is that we might want to bring in a 15 or 20-point asset at some future time. It's hard to be sure.
 
I'm not sure we CAN save 10, but we can certainly choose not to spend all we have.

Any internal diplomacy teams we recruit are likely to be assigned to prop up war support. We could make a rough estimate on how long such a team would take to pay for itself, but I'm not sure how long we've had the internal diplomacy teams in play doing that, so we might not have a big enough sample size.

Internal Diplomacy teams can generate a straight 2 war support per month (based on the Betazed example) or be assigned to "cushion the shock" against losses of ships and personnel, which has unknown savings.

My proposal is to use the generic internal diplomacy team option, which puts 10 of the cost on Starfleet (which we aren't that worried about) and only 5 on a member world, meaning it'll "pay for itself" in only 3 months instead of 10 months.
 
Technocracy Interstellar Ministry - Attempting to demonstrate the difference between Gaeni science and Mentat science to the Ked Paddah

well that's simple. Gaeni science might kill everyone in the room, or if it goes really wrong the building. Menat science might kill everyone in the system, or if it goes really wrong the sector. It's the difference between "hold my beer." and "pfft, who says you have to be sober to fly a Boeing."
 
Well, what do you imagine the emergency options looking like?

"Reverse the mentat-forming process" is almost certainly a huge program and we won't even have the faintest idea where to begin until the mentat prisoners we have have undergone medical examination and so on. Some things just plain take weeks to happen. Some things take weeks even if only to figure out how they can happen.

Given the MACO's statement, I think we might get something to do with mentats, next tick. note the "Yes, including forty mentats, many of them who have had the full treatment," explains Fischer. "Many of them involuntarily." He turned and pointed to a makeshift camp near the landing zones. "We have them as comfortable, and secure, as we can manage. Your Starfleet Medical is sending a Hospital ship in order to establish a proper camp, and to study the mentats properly."

So, Hospital ship arrives, probably next tick? maybe one tick for base analysis and then we'd get some more in-depth options
 
Possibly get an external diplomacy team from earth, and send it on a factfinding mission in occupied space as prep for later negotiations?
 
[X][IND] Brute force repairs (1.5x penalty to cost, 4x speed increase) Yagad-Tich
[X][IND2] Brute force repairs (1.5x penalty to cost, 4x speed increase) Yagad-Tich
Eh, you're not having both of them work on the same ship, right?
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North America Productivity Commission (UESPA) - Brute force repairs for USS Hood (1.5x penalty to cost, 4x speed increase)
Morchell Arebb Complex (Rigel) - Brute force repairs (1.5x penalty to cost, 4x speed increase) Yagad-Tich
Okay, apparently not. Nothing to see here.
 
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Y'all are going to leave this to me huh
I don't understand the joke, please explain.
Zutara is a 'ship' from Avatar: The Last Airbender between Prince Zuko and Katara
Harmony is (apparently, it's news to me) the name for the ship between Harry Potter and Hermione Granger

The joke is a play on words between ship as a starfaring vessel and ship as in relationship, romantic.

At least this band of inveterate sinners didn't pick anything problematic, like Sanakin, Anakin/Sand.
 
Y'all are going to leave this to me huh

Zutara is a 'ship' from Avatar: The Last Airbender between Prince Zuko and Katara
Harmony is (apparently, it's news to me) the name for the ship between Harry Potter and Hermione Granger

The joke is a play on words between ship as a starfaring vessel and ship as in relationship, romantic.

At least this band of inveterate sinners didn't pick anything problematic, like Sanakin, Anakin/Sand.

Ah, the Skittertale class combat frigate. A brilliant mix of Betazoid and Apiata engineering, that one.
 
Leslie:

"This isn't a new thing. How do think my bunch made it through the '66 five year mission? Some damn good ships, that's how."

[thinks back fondly, sighs, returns to inventory reports]
 
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If we want a powerful offensive design that can potentially outshoot the Sign of Rethelia, the USS Amedot has been known to deal some serious damage.
Idk I think the USS Korrasami might outgun that due to its surprise attack bonus. On the other hand that design is older, so.

Leslie:

"This isn't a new thing. How do think my bunch made it through the '66 five year mission? Some damn good ships, that's how."

[thinks back fondly, sighs, returns to inventory reports]
I can only assume now that just out of frame in this picture
A dejected alternate timeline Leslie is mentally crossing off "Chekmaate"* on his list of crew pairings. All that careful nudging for nothing!

*That being, of course, Ensign Jelmaat. I just made this up.
 
Idk I think the USS Korrasami might outgun that due to its surprise attack bonus. On the other hand that design is older, so.
That one would be something like a Defiant-class. Or for that matter a Romulan design. You get hints of her presence, everyone goes "naaah, couldn't be." Then she uncloaks, MASSIVE ALPHA STRIKE, and suddenly everything is over.

I can only assume now that just out of frame in this pictureA dejected alternate timeline Leslie is mentally crossing off "Chekmaate"* on his list of crew pairings. All that careful nudging for nothing!
:D

Well, you're mostly getting this in "older but wiser" hindsight, of which TBG!Leslie has an abundance.* TBG!Leslie was too preoccupied with his own more personal concerns to get up to much of that. Hopeless crush on Lt. Uhura, you see.

Nurse Chapel, now... :D



*Broken down by weight he's, like... sixty percent "older but wiser," thirty percent "old Enterprise anecdotes that may or may not have actually happened," and ten percent nerve trauma.
 
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