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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
And, despite my deep and abiding love of logistical support and small ships doing small ship things near the big ships,
[X][EC] Rear Admiral Rachel Ainsworth
 
Leila Hann said:
[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
[X][EC] Rear Admiral Rachel Ainsworth


Now, who should replace Ainsworth in the GBZ? I'd say Nash, but she's sadly indisposed.
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Not to mention Nash has only been a Commodore for four years. There's no rush to promote her. Let her enjoy commanding a Task Force before switching her to a position with even less space time and more paperwork.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
It hasn't proven popular within Starfleet - there is an ingrained institutional opposition. The simple reason is that not many fleets, even among the pacifist member worlds, indoctrinate their officers in the way Starfleet does. The process of creating a Starfleet officer isn't done with screaming Corporals, but with a creed. And the Explorer Corps is the ur-example of this creed within Starfleet.
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It seems to me something we could encourage with exchanges and a properly indoctrinating transfer program. Start small but at least build a path for those to follow later.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
If I had to write a Picard speech every second day I would have to self-medicate in ways that would make Forgothax cry.
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Oh I don't expect it to be constantly shoved in my face but if the Starfleet officers are as special as you describe them and have such a string focus on the peaceful side of things I honestly would expect it to be mentioned a bit more if the fluff/narrative itself. I mean I find it pretty telling that while there is "unrest" on earth in regards to the handling of the Licori there is nearly zero mention of any doubt within Starfleet (except some regret by the Commander herself) about the correctness of the course (and indeed we have the highest support of it). Or take the Orion crisis where our people/officers oversaw a bloody and extremely costly (in terms of civilian life) attack on Cetos on top of an already bloody insurgency (the worst and most problematic of military ) campaigns with once again very little doubt or questioning orders or it having any affect on Starfleet. The actions and behaviour of our leadership (and likely enlisted) are pretty much the same what I would expect to see from a typical trained person in that position and honestly the only example I can think of that even comes remotely near showing some kind of special ethic/creed that is incident during the Biophage. And it honestly seems strange to me to describe Starfleet as this "special" non-military force when its most famous current heroes all boost impressive combat experience and its biggest ongoing operations are purely military and aggressive expansionist in the GBZ and the Licori.

(I am sorry if this overly critical - I have not that big of an problem with the reasoning of your argument since that is sound and makes sense, I just have a hard time seeing it represented in-game.)

Iron Wolf said:
I feel like you could have a transfer, they'd just have to spend a year or two at SFA and then some postings on ships before they'd be eligible for the EC panel. Hence that exactly being Xuggaed's background. I imagine there's a few Orizzas -- or minor Apiata queens, for that matter -- who are going to take their chances for climbing the ladder in Starfleet rather than in the Hive. No one's written about them yet is all.

We probably have a few high-ranking Seyek, Fiiral, Qloathi, Caledonians, Indorians, Gaeni, and Orions due to the long times we've had affiliate and affiliate+ status with them, and the subsequent crew flow. Again, they just haven't been written about with maybe the exception of Holena and Dr. Asurva for the Orions.

Actually now that I think about it the lack of senior Starfleet Apiata in any fics despite their popularity is kinda weird.
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I expected the same which is why I mentioned that idea but Onerios statement seems to suggest this is not the case...

Simon_Jester said:
It's not about enlightenment, it's about Starfleet-ness.

Put this way, Starfleet's mission statement reads something like "to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has gone before." A traditional military has like one half of one of those in play, trading them in for an extra helping of "fight fight defend defend."

When we encounter a bunch of aliens who actually have something like the Explorer Corps (like the Honiani or the Qloathi) it's something remarkable.
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Pretty much every spacefaring race we have encountered seems to employ its naval forces in some explanatory (and even diplomatic) manner. In fact I have a really hard time coming up with an example where the military is restricted to the traditional role of a purely military force whose only task is to attack and defend against threats.
 
[X][EC] Rear Admiral Rachel Ainsworth
[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu

These two have balls of steel. Even woot their bonuses, just reading their reports should be fun.

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[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
[X][EC] Rear Admiral Rachel Ainsworth
 
SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
It seems to me something we could encourage with exchanges and a properly indoctrinating transfer program. Start small but at least build a path for those to follow later.
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I suspect this is what our crew flow at 300 (and 100?) is supposed to represent. Of course you can always just have exceptional individuals who joined up, a la Nog.

Erandil said:
I expected the same which is why I mentioned that idea but Onerios statement seems to suggest this is not the case...
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I interpreted that as "no, you won't get people on the EC panel who are fresh from their member navies." For example, Captain Sokolov of the UES Liberty won't ever show up in the EC panel. Or if she did, it would be with a "Current Command: USS [Something]."
 
@OneirosTheWriter just to make sure....

Are we cool with sending the Courageous to support the Enterprise and the Sarek? I know there hasn't been an explicit vote on it, but when we voted to spend Licori War SOE resources to speed repair of the Courageous, I assume that was confirmation we were intending to use it in the war.
 
[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
[X][EC] Rear Admiral Rachel Ainsworth
 
Iron Wolf said:
I interpreted that as "no, you won't get people on the EC panel who are fresh from their member navies." For example, Captain Sokolov of the UES Liberty won't ever show up in the EC panel. Or if she did, it would be with a "Current Command: USS [Something]."
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Funny you should say that, but Captain Sokolov was a Starfleet Officer for seven years before transferring to UESPA because she thought the work UESPA does is more valuable to Earth.
 
Briefvoice said:
@OneirosTheWriter just to make sure....

Are we cool with sending the Courageous to support the Enterprise and the Sarek? I know there hasn't been an explicit vote on it, but when we voted to spend Licori War SOE resources to speed repair of the Courageous, I assume that was confirmation we were intending to use it in the war.
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It's fine to send it - using LBZ resources on it doesn't explicitly lock it in as LBZ, but you can send it.

Erandil said:
(I am sorry if this overly critical - I have not that big of an problem with the reasoning of your argument since that is sound and makes sense, I just have a hard time seeing it represented in-game.
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It's, um, a post-Khitomer Accords transitional phase...? *sweats*
 
Briefvoice said:
Funny you should say that, but Captain Sokolov was a Starfleet Officer for seven years before transferring to UESPA because she thought the work UESPA does is more valuable to Earth.
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"More like dropped out when she failed the Explorer Corps panel testing" /smug Starfleeter

Sokolov for EC Panel campaign starts right here, right now. Even if she doesn't want it.

Roberta Sherman would be the more pure example. Or like, probably literally any of the other UE captains barring new background revelations in omakes etc.
 
[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
[X][EC] Rear Admiral Rachel Ainsworth

I agree with BV's reasoning for these 3.
 
pbluekan said:
Nash deserves this promotion. She's behind all of her peers, and she has the most relevant experience for the position.

[X][EC] Commodore Nash ka'Sharren
[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
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She's behind her peers because she deferred promotion for five years. With only four years in rank, we need not hurry to promote her.
 
More importantly, we kinda just assigned her to the LBZ, it'd be a bit daft to reassign her before she even gets a chance to do the job we wanted her to.
 
So as an Excelsior-A commanded by Sadek, the stats of the Courageous would be:

C10 S9 H6 L8 P9 D7
+5% Evasion

That's a ship that could take on the Enterprise in combat with even odds and can still perform most excellently on any standard EC mission.
 
One day we will have some non humans/vulcans with better passives.

[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
[X][EC] Rear Admiral Rachel Ainsworth

Today is not that day. :(
 
[X][FYM1] Captain Sadek
[X][FYM2] Captain Demora Sulu
[X][EC] Commodore Nash ka'Sharren

Nash has the best bonus, and I think withdrawing Ainsworth from the GBZ now is a big mistake.
She has proved an effective combat Admiral, and is placed to have the best read on the dynamics of the situation in theatre.
We are just about to commit our combat reserves to war with the Licori, now us the most opportune time for the Cardassians to make a play in the GBZ, we need to keep the best officer for the job at her post now mote than ever.

In fact if Cardasdian intel gets wind that we have withdrawn our fire-eating combat commander, it may provoke them into making a move.
 
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