Remove ads

Puella Magi Adfligo Systema

Reader mode
Guys, it's in the canon omake where we see Kirika make her contract.

It tells her exactly what Kirika needs to hear to comfort Kirika as much as she is able. Comfort Oriko. Love Oriko. Make Oriko's life beautiful. Probably more specific things as the need calls for it, but it's not going to solve the fucking puzzle for us because that's deprotagonizing us. Potential is a thing.

But you don't exactly need a lot of divination magic for magical advice to go "DON'T LISTEN TO THAT FUCKER EVERRRR."
 
LostDeviljho said:
cite?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
AuraTwilight said:
Guys, it's in the canon omake where we see Kirika make her contract.

It tells her exactly what Kirika needs to hear to comfort Kirika as much as she is able. Comfort Oriko. Love Oriko. Make Oriko's life beautiful. Probably more specific things as the need calls for it, but it's not going to solve the fucking puzzle for us because that's deprotagonizing us. Potential is a thing.

But you don't exactly need a lot of divination magic for magical advice to go "DON'T LISTEN TO THAT FUCKER EVERRRR."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Firnagzen said:
"I-I-" Kirika stutters. "I wished to help you. I can help you."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Mister Bad Guy said:
Shoulders, long held tense, relaxed. The lines beneath her eyes smoothed. In her mind, she could feel things restructuring, details and bits of advice forming in her head that had never been there before - all of which now pointed to a single thing.

Hug Oriko. Kiss Oriko. Love Oriko. Make Oriko's life beautiful.

"Are you alright?"

Kirika turned to the other girl, who was looking at her with concern in her green eyes. "The process can be..."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
 
Incidentally, Kirika's Anti-Magic is probably the key to fixing Oriko's problem, purely because of what her wish was.

I fully expect it can be refined to let her negate specific effects, so that she can cure the 'illness' without negating Oriko's powers. We'll probably need to solve and guide that for her to act upon, though.
 
AuraTwilight said:
Guys, it's in the canon omake where we see Kirika make her contract.

It tells her exactly what Kirika needs to hear to comfort Kirika as much as she is able. Comfort Oriko. Love Oriko. Make Oriko's life beautiful. Probably more specific things as the need calls for it, but it's not going to solve the fucking puzzle for us because that's deprotagonizing us. Potential is a thing.

But you don't exactly need a lot of divination magic for magical advice to go "DON'T LISTEN TO THAT FUCKER EVERRRR."
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
There is a possibility of Kyubey help be the best possibility for Oriko, and then she will go for it, maybe this is why she is with the distant look(theory). I don't think she is going to quietly wait for soulguca without losing some Sanity points...
 
AuraTwilight said:
Incidentally, Kirika's Anti-Magic is probably the key to fixing Oriko's problem, purely because of what her wish was.

I fully expect it can be refined to let her negate specific effects, so that she can cure the 'illness' without negating Oriko's powers. We'll probably need to solve and guide that for her to act upon, though.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
That's a neat idea to propose. I don't think Kirika's doing anything right now, so could we talk to her about furthering her Anti-Magic into negating magic that has been done in the past, rather than is being done in the present?
 
Loktarogar said:
There is a possibility of Kyubey help be the best possibility for Oriko, and then she will go for it, maybe this is why she is with the distant look(theory). I don't think she is going to quietly wait for soulguca without losing some Sanity points...
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I really doubt it. That wish fucking sucks chunks if it's telling Kirika "Kyubey > Sabrina" on literally anything.
 
[X]Encourage Mami. We believe in her.
[X] Try to create a Grief Manual outlining the form and function of a Soul Gem.
[X] Telepathy to Kyubey
-[X] If you wish a discussion, am willing to see you alone at the junkyard tomorrow at just after 8 'o clock.
[X] Continue with the previous vote.
 
Last edited:
Another reason to avoid Grief Trance right now: Mami.

She's shaken. We need to be there for her.

I think votes need to consolidate a bit, but before that, I want to propose a couple modifications.

[X]Encourage Mami. We believe in her.
-[X] That said, warning that the model we gave her might not be useful in the end, being held up by Grief... But if anybody can do this, it's her.
-[X] Make sure to praise her efforts no matter how this goes. Even if it doesn't work, that much is good information.
[X] Stay alert in case the bunnycat comes back. If he returns, throw him out with floating Grief hands. Repeat as many times as needed.
[X] Practice magic reinforcement enchanting on rocks.
[X] Talk:
-[X] with Kirika: She can cancel active magic. Does she think she could further that ability into canceling magical effects after they happened? Reverse magic?
-[X] with Oriko: If she intends to use the AM enchantment to endure the pain after we're gone, could she take note of whether the pain keeps worsening or not? Hoping the AM will stop her Soul from twisting any further... Thinking that, she should hold onto the AM Rock even while using the Ring.
-[X] Hey, how about we mould some gold into actual Rings to hold the enchantments?
 
Last edited:
[x] Onmur

Although if she might need to use both in combination, we should probably test them before we leave, in case the antimagic turns off the enchantment/the enchantment burns out the antimagic.
 
Onmur said:
Another reason to avoid Grief Trance right now: Mami.

She's shaken. We need to be there for her.

I think votes need to consolidate a bit, but before that, I want to propose a couple modifications.

[X]Encourage Mami. We believe in her.
-[X] That said, warning that the model we gave her might not be useful in the end, being held up by Grief... But if anybody can do this, it's her.
-[X] Make sure to praise her efforts no matter how this goes. Even if it doesn't work, that much is good information.
[X] Stay alert in case the bunnycat comes back. If he returns, throw him out with floating Grief hands. Repeat as many times as needed.
[X] Practice magic reinforcement enchanting on rocks.
[X] Talk:
-[X] with Kirika: She can cancel active magic. Does she think she could further that ability into canceling magical effects after they happened? Reverse magic?
-[X] with Oriko: If she intends to use the AM enchantment to endure the pain after we're gone, could she take note of whether the pain keeps worsening or not? Hoping the AM will stop her Soul from twisting any further... Thinking that, she should hold onto the AM Rock even while using the Ring.
-[X] Hey, how about we mould some gold into actual Rings to hold the enchantments?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
what's with the colors? christmas was a week ago.
 
LostDeviljho said:
what's with the colors? christmas was a week ago.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Pointing out additions and the core of the additions.

FlatlineAskari said:
[x] Onmur

Although if she might need to use both in combination, we should probably test them before we leave, in case the antimagic turns off the enchantment/the enchantment burns out the antimagic.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
She was holding the Rock while taking off the Ring, I think.

Firnagzen said:
With slow, gentle motions, she slides the ring off. Oriko tightens her grip on the antimagic rock in anticipation, her knuckles whitening.

The ring comes off fully. Oriko's jaw clenches tight, a flicker of pain crossing her face.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
 
[X]Encourage Mami. We believe in her.
[X] Try to create a Grief Manual outlining the form and function of a Soul Gem.
[X] Telepathy to Kyubey
-[X] If you wish a discussion, I am willing to see you alone at the junkyard tomorrow at just after 8 'o clock.
[X] Continue with the previous vote.

What do you think would happen if we just straight told him that we believe our long-term plans will prove incompatible with his? Not even vitriolic, just a Cyberman-esque dissertation on how our paradigms have fundamental dissimilarities which prior observed data on Incubators indicate will lead to conflict at a semi-predictable point in the future? Hell, what would its reaction to us going all Vulcan when given the chance to speak with it alone even be?

Also, we can, at minimum, strip the little furry bastard of plausible deniability if he tries something like this again by pointing out that, regardless of his opinions on the validity of emotion, his presence has a direct negative impact on the functionality of one of our primary assets (Mami) and therefore constitutes a minor act of sabotage.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
What do you think would happen if we just straight told him that we believe our long-term plans will prove incompatible with his? Not even vitriolic, just a Cyberman-esque dissertation on how our paradigms have fundamental dissimilarities which prior observed data on Incubators indicate will lead to conflict at a semi-predictable point in the future? Hell, what would its reaction to us going all Vulcan when given the chance to speak with it alone even be?

Also, we can, at minimum, strip the little furry bastard of plausible deniability if he tries something like this again by pointing out that, regardless of his opinions on the validity of emotion, his presence has a direct negative impact on the functionality of one of our primary assets (Mami) and therefore constitutes a minor act of sabotage.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I like this plan.

[X] Telepathy to Kyubey
-[X] If you wish a discussion, I am willing to see you alone at the junkyard tomorrow at just after 8 'o clock.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
@UbeOne do you mind if I add this to my vote?
 
AuraTwilight said:
The problem is that her wish seems to act on information she already has instead of being fucking clairvoyant. She's not the seer of the duo.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
What stops her from hearing out, Kyubey, and then deciding from it to go with his option ? I am only telling that he has lots of oppurtunities to sway her opinion to his, while we are doing our social duties for a entire week. Just saying that we can talk to him first and present his idea to Kirika to analize and see if it can help Oriko the best, because i just know that he is going to keep nagging Kirika while are not looking.

Better a controled situation, than one that we need to react.
 
Last edited:
Loktarogar said:
What stops her from hearing out, Kyubey, and then deciding from it to go with his option ? I am only telling that he has lots of oppurtunities to sway her opinion to his, while we are doing our social duties for a entire week. Just saying that we can talk to him first and present his idea to Kirika to analize and see if it can help Oriko the best, because i just know that he is going to keep nagging Kirika while are not looking.

Better a controled situation, than one that we need to react.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

"Kyubey benefits from hurting Oriko. Sabrina cares about Oriko. Sabrina doesn't want us to listen to Kyubey. Do not listen to Kyubey."
 
GardenerBriareus said:
What do you think would happen if we just straight told him that we believe our long-term plans will prove incompatible with his? Not even vitriolic, just a Cyberman-esque dissertation on how our paradigms have fundamental dissimilarities which prior observed data on Incubators indicate will lead to conflict at a semi-predictable point in the future?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'm liking this 'Suicide-by-Incubator' plan. Tell me more.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top