[X] Inline Deflector (Maximum Warp: -0.4)
[X] Low-Power Warp Core (Maximum Warp: -0.6)
[X] Low-Power Warp Core (Maximum Warp: -0.6)
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darkstarling
Brilliantly Crazed
- Location
- Columbus, Ohio
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Blister Deflector (Mass: +10,000 Tons) (Cost: +2)
If this wins we have a TRUE woobly flying saucer
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
My plans and schemes for deployable short term science bases when we land depend on having cargo capacity and engineering. And six cost is... not a lot. Not nothing, but not a lot. We can dial down the guns later.
If this wins we have a TRUE woobly flying saucer
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
My plans and schemes for deployable short term science bases when we land depend on having cargo capacity and engineering. And six cost is... not a lot. Not nothing, but not a lot. We can dial down the guns later.
I'd say it's a perfectly reasonable cost for the only other warp 8 engine design the Federation is going to be building in the short term (unless SanFran makes the satellite in like one or two years and then gets cranking on a warp 8 engine design the next time they'll be able to start on one is 2244). This ship will probably be the only warp 8 design other than the Excalibur until 2253!
[X] Blister Deflector (Mass: +10,000 Tons) (Cost: +2)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
Cheapness is nice, but speed on a Science Vessel that might not be very well armed is also nice.
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
Cheapness is nice, but speed on a Science Vessel that might not be very well armed is also nice.
- Location
- United States
[X] Blister Deflector (Mass: +10,000 Tons) (Cost: +2)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
[X] Inline Deflector (Maximum Warp: -0.4)
[X] Low-Power Warp Core (Maximum Warp: -0.6)
I want to see if we can get a Vulcan style warp ring, so we can have a true flying saucer.
Aside from that jokish reason, I also think that keeping costs low is more important than flexibility. In fact, flexibility is explicitly against our design brief. The fewer and more capable these ships are, the more likely they'll be tapped for missions beyond just cataloging biospheres, and the whole point is that cataloging biospheres is a mission that can take a really long time, so having a multi-mission capable ship doing it is wasting potential (thus the need for a cheap and highly specialized ship). So I want to limit both the cost (because a more costly ship needs to do more in order to justify that cost) and the extra space so that we're not tempted to turn the ship into another generalist down the line. I do support giving the ship some tactical functions, as they'd probably make good patrol ships in a full-on war scenario where new colonies aren't being founded anyway, but anything beyond that, or anything that might tempt us into giving it more beyond that should be out of the question.
For it's main mission where it's spending most of its time orbiting (or even landing) on planets, max warp isn't important. For wartime scenarios this is going to be more of a patrol ship, maybe a hospital ship, not a front-line combatant that needs to keep up with the battlefleet.
[X] Low-Power Warp Core (Maximum Warp: -0.6)
I want to see if we can get a Vulcan style warp ring, so we can have a true flying saucer.
Aside from that jokish reason, I also think that keeping costs low is more important than flexibility. In fact, flexibility is explicitly against our design brief. The fewer and more capable these ships are, the more likely they'll be tapped for missions beyond just cataloging biospheres, and the whole point is that cataloging biospheres is a mission that can take a really long time, so having a multi-mission capable ship doing it is wasting potential (thus the need for a cheap and highly specialized ship). So I want to limit both the cost (because a more costly ship needs to do more in order to justify that cost) and the extra space so that we're not tempted to turn the ship into another generalist down the line. I do support giving the ship some tactical functions, as they'd probably make good patrol ships in a full-on war scenario where new colonies aren't being founded anyway, but anything beyond that, or anything that might tempt us into giving it more beyond that should be out of the question.
For it's main mission where it's spending most of its time orbiting (or even landing) on planets, max warp isn't important. For wartime scenarios this is going to be more of a patrol ship, maybe a hospital ship, not a front-line combatant that needs to keep up with the battlefleet.
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- Location
- sweden
Would make landing easier atleast
[X] Blister Deflector (Mass: +10,000 Tons) (Cost: +2)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
I'd prefer not compromising speed since this ship will be spending most of it's time on the edges of the Federation during a time where the Federation's borders are pretty unstable between the Gorn, Tholians, and likely Orion pirates.
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
I'd prefer not compromising speed since this ship will be spending most of it's time on the edges of the Federation during a time where the Federation's borders are pretty unstable between the Gorn, Tholians, and likely Orion pirates.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Yeah, people seem to be aggressively disregarding the request:
- Location
- west
[X] Inline Deflector (Maximum Warp: -0.4)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
Small and well specialized seems at cross purposes. Small ship means little room for enough Bioscience related modules to make this hull worth the expense and time needed to design and build it.
Ideally is the key word here.
At 95,000 tonnes it's still about half the mass of the Excalibur, and there's nothing to say it won't be specialised when it comes time to pick modules (the engineering section should help a bit there, too, given there's probably going to be room for extra science modules, or at least a place where we can put non-science modules that we deem highly important but which would otherwise impact on the saucer module slots).
Probably, yeah. But given the Excalibur is filling all the yards that can build 180kt ships, "big" means "doesn't get built."
And there's also an argument about what specialization means when the ship needs to function on the Federation's frontier.
Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I would consider 'slightly more than half the mass of the heavy cruiser we just built' to be plenty small. The heaviest options here would push us up to a maximum of like ~115kt, if the nacelles haven't been accounted for in the mass calculation yet*. That's smaller than the Newtons are.
*Nacelles are like 10kt each, IIRC
Also nets us 23 shield points, 4 more than the Newton and 1 less than the Archer!
This will be important, given this ship will be scurrying about the space where we're going to be rapidly coming into contact with other powers, who are either absolute xenophobic who want to keep us out or colonial competitors who would eventually push into us, either to secure their colonies or to make more of them out of our members.
[X] Inline Deflector (Maximum Warp: -0.4)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
Goldenlima
Statistical Anomaly
[X] Blister Deflector (Mass: +10,000 Tons) (Cost: +2)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)
[X] Standard Warp Core (Mass: +25,000 Tons) (Cost: +4)