-also add a ramming-prow
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[X] Two Type-3 Thrusters (33 -> 45.5 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
[X] Three Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 39.75 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
[X] Two Type-3 Thrusters (33 -> 45.5 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
with the torpedo launchers we could go 1 RF + 2 Standard and have the space budgeted to upgrade to 3 RF once they are out of the prototype phase
[X] Two Type-3 Thrusters (33 -> 45.5 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
with the torpedo launchers we could go 1 RF + 2 Standard and have the space budgeted to upgrade to 3 RF once they are out of the prototype phase
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Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
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The canon phasers had their capacitors turn into the phaser strip model though. While technically the same can be said for this one, having gone off on a weird digression that the QM explicitly told us after the fact would not work out how we hoped has left us noticeably behind the power curve, and it's hard not to see that decision point as having been a waste of time and energy that introduced nothing but problems.
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- west
The disco ball was nerfed before we could even see it in action and that's just disappointing.
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- west
I'm sure there's a species somewhere that can let us use the crews collective soul to power the ship and everything on it.
Fuck yeah! A sales pitch for our department:
Utopia Planitia, Where logic goes to die.
Such a shame the new hull plating has the golden hue, instead of being SHINY AND CHROME!!!!
[X] Two Type-3 Thrusters (33 -> 45.5 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
Also, Commerce raiding's no fun if you can't steal the Klingon's Bloodwine.
Chargone
Invisable operator
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- New Zealand
Ehh, I'm certainly not arguing that our phasers are objectively better, they're very much not. I'll even agree that on balance they're worse, I just don't consider that the same as not having any upside at all or being an actual dead end.
An actual dead end we would have had to have thrown it out and started over (leaving us even further behind in the mean time) rather than just course correcting as we actually did.
And hey, if we're lucky maybe we'll get some sort of neat variant upgrade that wouldn't have been an option with the canon phasers before strips come along and render the whole thing obsolete. Not super likely, but it could happen.
It'd be kind of neat if, for example, we could get our phasers to track well over a wide arc and continue applying energy to the target for longer at a go. Obviously just hitting harder in the first place is (usually) better, but constant damage over time has interesting possibilities. Especially if the main point is keeping enemy shields down while we ready the next set of torpedos.
Not sure how to get from there to strips or some other solution to the "can only fire two phasers at a go" issue, but it's still a neat thought.
Or something, who knows?
Edit: I suppose if our current path can never get us strip analog or alternative similarly significant jump in capabilities it counts as a dead end, but absent Anything Else, currently it just looks like we get to the same point as canon, just a bit later.
Edit edit: I could have sworn that when I started this was actually addressing something actually said in the quote... Apparently not.
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Anyway, I suspect we'll get the option to do a refit of this ship for the 5 year mission after the war, so going cheaper but less volume efficient shouldn't be to bad.
[X] Three Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 39.75 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
[X] Four Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 42 Cost) [Very High Maneuverability]
Revvin' up your engine,
Listen to her howlin' roar,
Metal under tension,
Begging you to touch and go...
[X] Three Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 39.75 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
[X] Four Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 42 Cost) [Very High Maneuverability]
Revvin' up your engine,
Listen to her howlin' roar,
Metal under tension,
Begging you to touch and go...
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LunaMoth
Wings of Kynareth is my comfort song...
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Just teleport it directly into crew quarters, skip the need for a cargo bay.
While "Our phaser bank is still too weak to rely on it to do it's job alone at all" and "we're leaning into 'speed is armor' anyway" are valid opinions and answers to the question I posed, I don't think this idea you're forwarding that we went for wide arc phasers because of incorrect assumptions that we could combine 4-5+ of them onto a single target was ever true?
Looking at the update and the discussion afterwards, the two phaser limit was explicitly written out in the text. The first explicit reference in the discussion I found to that same limit was here, just under a hour and a half after the update was originally posted, while an earlier possible oblique reference of only caring about the zones where two phasers overlap instead of any more is here, barely over 20 minutes after the original update post. So I'm confident stating that the restriction wasn't something that was edited in to the update late, and the two phaser limit was a major part of the discussion for the whole time rather than something we blindly walked into assuming we could shoot more than that.
That combined with the now missing per-phaser cost differences that you can find references to in the discussion paints the picture of the vote instead being more "do you accept a lesser damage increase to maintain the ability to achieve high coverage percentages?" vs. "do you abandon any pretenses of significant coverage in exchange for a more than doubled damage increase?"
I imagine this would also make it both turn faster and have a better limping speed if an engine gets blown up
Some Starfleet Legal: Are you crazy? And face litigation due to copy right infringement!?I mean at that point, why not just make this?
Random Person Making Suggestions: Wait, the company is still around?
SSL: Well, no. But the law firm sure is. And, uh... they've made something of a living off of maintaining copy rights.
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Name it the UFS Beyblade.
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Set Moon to Ramming Speed!
[X] Three Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 39.75 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
[X] Four Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 42 Cost) [Very High Maneuverability]
Cost savings are paramount for me. I don't care about an extra module spot either. There will be no 5 year missions for this ship. This is not an explorer. All I want, and what I will vote for, is a bit of engineering, a bit of cargo, and a bit of medical so that it can spend it's postwar years using that warp 8 engine to respond to colony emergencies.
And if need be, I'm willing to sacrifice one of those.
[X] Four Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 42 Cost) [Very High Maneuverability]
Cost savings are paramount for me. I don't care about an extra module spot either. There will be no 5 year missions for this ship. This is not an explorer. All I want, and what I will vote for, is a bit of engineering, a bit of cargo, and a bit of medical so that it can spend it's postwar years using that warp 8 engine to respond to colony emergencies.
And if need be, I'm willing to sacrifice one of those.
KlavoHunter
THOU SHALT WORSHIP NO GODS ABOVE ENTERPRISE!
proto-Sovereign aesthetic . . . me gusta...
[X] Four Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 42 Cost) [Very High Maneuverability]
[X] Three Type-2 Thrusters (33 -> 39.75 Cost) [Very High Manoeuvrability]
Contradicting Riker's mention of the time that Humans killed all their lawyers...
KleverKil'Vanya
Ortillery Operator
We didn't even get to see our massed phaser design in action, instead it became 2 phaser max mid design process as far as I can tell
Alternate idea: they're delivering torpedoes.
Specifically, they're following a boom-and-zoom doctrine: zip in, shoot, zip out. Only turn once far away from the battle