"Anyway, Hitomi," you say as you detransform, followed by Mami. You pull your mobile phone out and check the time briefly. "Yes, I'd like to heal Kyousuke's arm, as much as possible today, which, uh, looks like it'll be maybe . Mami, Homura, could you help?"
Looks like something's missing, maybe.


Sayaka shakes her head. "Nah, I think that's fine," she agrees as you all start down the path, following Hitomi. A tug with your will has the masses of Grief trailing along in your wake, lurking low in the vegetation.

...

Eventually, you find yourself at Kyousuke's ward room, the enormous tracts of Grief that you've been dragging around nestling on the roof.
We've shown surprise that Mami seemingly could see what she was doing with her ribbon she was manipulating in another room, but then Sabrina's somehow doing this all the time.

Madoka beams happily at Sayaka, and then you.
Aren't we proud, everyone?
Out of the corner of your eyes, you can see Madoka giving Homura a pleading look. The time traveller folds, relenting and lapsing into a more neutral expression.
Are we sure Madoka doesn't have Mystic Eyes, everyone?

"OK..." the boy says, expression looking faintly poleaxed.
Hey, maybe this is a hint that, if Kyousuke tries to put the moves on Sabrina, we should hit him with a poleaxe, instead of a hammer.
 

Yeah I get the concerns here but it just feels wrong to talk about this in front of everyone, especially with Sayaka and Hitomi right there. Hitomi's crush hasn't even been revealed yet and putting emphasis on the both of them here just comes off as awkward at best and invasive at worst. The original vote with Kyousuke was basically snubbing, and I don't think Sayaka and Hitomi would've taken it well. The other's (minus Homura) would also be a bit disappointed.

At worst we get some questionable looks with the whispering, which by itself isn't a big deal.

Maybe if we found a better time to talk about this? But I get the feeling we need to talk about it before the healing gets done.

...and I'm coming up empty with alternatives on how to broach this talk with Kyousuke without drawing suspicion.

But that doesn't mean there aren't any, so I'll certainly take suggestions here.
 
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Maybe if we found a better time to talk about this? But I get the feeling we need to talk about it before the healing gets done.
Kyousuke's relationships probably would be better handled separately. Hitomi and Sayaka should work their debt thing out before any talk of going after the same guy happens. The possibility of a crush makes that difficult, though.

Maybe we could just be up front about the crush thing? "Homura says the last time she did something like this for a boy he developed a crush on her. Could you not fall in love with any of us?"
 
...and I'm coming up empty with alternatives on how to broach this talk with Kyousuke without drawing suspicion.

But that doesn't mean there aren't any, so I'll certainly take suggestions here.
Well, we don't necessarily have to tell him this now. We could say something like: There is a cost, but it is cheap and you will be happy to pay it.

Or perhaps: One day, I may ask a favour of you.

Or we could wait behind a minute after everyone's left, tell him, then fly to catch up.

None are perfect but they are doable.
 
Or we could heal him and then if he starts crushing afterwards:
*points at self, Mami then Homura* Lesbian, lesbian, probably lesbian and definitely not interested.
Or something similarly blunt and final.

Quick and easy, and this way we only have to bring it up if it becomes necessary. The rest of the RomCom triangle stuff isn't really our responsibility unless it's going to end up with someone dead, which won't happen so long as Sayaka isn't a Meguca.
 
I notice that this chapter confirmed that normals (or at least normals who have been told of the existence of magic) can see raw grief.

Also sayaka you dumb blueberry you owe sabrina and hitomi nothing XD
Um. I don't recall any debts to Sabrina, but she kind of does owe Hitomi. But since Hitomi neither needs nor wants Sayaka to pay back the debt directly, the healthy response would be for Sayaka to respect Hitomi's wishes and treat the debt as a general debt to be a better person and help other people like Hitomi helped her rather than to continue to stubbornly focus on Hitomi.

We could just wait until after he's healed. If he doesn't ask if he can reward us again after we do it for free, he's almost certainly not interested enough in us to be a problem.
Kyousuke asked us now, so we should have some sort of response now.

Making the request before makes it seem like the healing is contingent on the request. Which isn't true, but also presenting the healing as a transaction (even a very weird one) will not make him respect us as a person as much as doing it for free and so will make him paradoxically less inclined to follow our life advice (or desire to not be stalked).
The way the request is worded makes it obvious that we're healing him for free. We're just giving him some good advice at the same time. He is not forced to heed the advice, but the context means that he will take it seriously. If he decides to be stupid and ignore our advice and stalk us or whatever, then he deserves the clue by four that wil inevitably come his way. But I doubt that he's that stupid.

And... I'm not sure I want to tell Kyousuke that line in front of the others. I feel it's kinda rude.
Yeah I get the concerns here but it just feels wrong to talk about this in front of everyone, especially with Sayaka and Hitomi right there. Hitomi's crush hasn't even been revealed yet and putting emphasis on the both of them here just comes off as awkward at best and invasive at worst. The original vote with Kyousuke was basically snubbing, and I don't think Sayaka and Hitomi would've taken it well. The other's (minus Homura) would also be a bit disappointed.

At worst we get some questionable looks with the whispering, which by itself isn't a big deal.
Telling Kyousuke that his friends care about him and want him to be healed and that he should pay attention to them? I would expect Kyousuke to take that sentiment platonically (it's just the fact that we know about the crushes which makes it embarrassing), but it's not rude. On the other hand, whispering the answer to his question (i.e. the price we're requesting for his healing) is most definitely rude to the others, especially to Mami and Homura who are active parties in the healing. There are contexts where whispering is socially acceptable, but this isn't one of them.

We don't really want to be nice to Kyousuke though.
Correction: we don't want him to start crushing on us. We want to be nice to everyone, we just don't want our niceness to be misinterpreted. Your original vote has us being nice but a bit distant; I'm fine with that approach.

[x] Just one thing. We're healing him largely because of Sayaka and Hitomi. His friends care about him, so he should remember that once he gets out of the hospital. We know that his hand is important for his music and we know how musicians can get about their music, but he should make sure not to neglect his friends.
[x] Group healing. Ask Homura to timestop if necessary.
-[x] Thank her and Mami for helping out.
[x] Mention to Kyosuke that it might not be a good idea to talk too much about how it happened. Just treat it as a surprise you can't explain, okay?
[x] Talk to the others once it's done, after everyone's left Kyosuke's room.
 
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I notice that this chapter confirmed that normals (or at least normals who have been told of the existence of magic) can see raw grief.


Um. I don't recall any debts to Sabrina, but she kind of does owe Hitomi. But since Hitomi neither needs nor wants Sayaka to pay back the debt directly, the healthy response would be for Sayaka to respect Hitomi's wishes and treat the debt as a general debt to be a better person and help other people like Hitomi helped her rather than to continue to stubbornly focus on Hitomi.


Kyousuke asked us now, so we should have some sort of response now.


The way the request is worded makes it obvious that we're healing him for free. We're just giving him some good advice at the same time. He is not forced to heed the advice, but the context means that he will take it seriously. If he decides to be stupid and ignore our advice and stalk us or whatever, then he deserves the clue by four that wil inevitably come his way. But I doubt that he's that stupid.



Telling Kyousuke that his friends care about him and want him to be healed and that he should pay attention to them? I would expect Kyousuke to take that sentiment platonically (it's just the fact that we know about the crushes which makes it embarrassing), but it's not rude. On the other hand, whispering the answer to his question (i.e. the price we're requesting for his healing) is most definitely rude to the others, especially to Mami and Homura who are active parties in the healing. There are contexts where whispering is socially acceptable, but this isn't one of them.


Correction: we don't want him to start crushing on us. We want to be nice to everyone, we just don't want our niceness to be misinterpreted. Your original vote has us being nice but a bit distant; I'm fine with that approach.

[x] Just one thing. We're healing him largely because of Sayaka and Hitomi. His friends care about him, so he should remember that once he gets out of the hospital. We know that his hand is important for his music and we know how musicians can get about their music, but he should make sure not to neglect his friends.
[x] Group healing. Ask Homura to timestop if necessary.
-[x] Thank her and Mami for helping out.
[x] Mention to Kyousuke that it might not be a good idea to talk too much about how it happened. Just treat it as a surprise you can't explain, okay?


I like this. Changing vote.
 
Changing to...

[x] boonerunner

For the record, we have the same vote now.

[x] Just one thing. We're healing him largely because of Sayaka and Hitomi. His friends care about him, so he should remember that once he gets out of the hospital. We know that his hand is important for his music and we know how musicians can get about their music, but he should make sure not to neglect his friends.
[x] Group healing. Ask Homura to timestop if necessary.
-[x] Thank her and Mami for helping out.
[x] Mention to Kyosuke that it might not be a good idea to talk too much about how it happened. Just treat it as a surprise you can't explain, okay?
[x] Talk to the others once it's done, after everyone's left Kyosuke's room.
 
I notice that this chapter confirmed that normals (or at least normals who have been told of the existence of magic) can see raw grief.
I'll clarify this bit.

Diffuse Grief, in its gaseous form, is very nearly invisible to both the eye, but can be somewhat sensed puella magi senses.

Dense-ish Grief, in gaseous form, is visible to the eye, magical or otherwise, and fairly obvious on magical senses.

Solid Grief is visible to the eye, and fairly difficult to sense.

Witch Stuff is aaaaaaaaaaā.
 
anyone else what to do something about Sayaka's "I feel indebted to Hitome and I feel awful" thing?
I think it's something they're going to have to work out on their own...mostly.

We've planned to address to Hitomi why it affects other parts of their lives, like how their mutual crush might resolve, or Sayaka's likelihood to contract. Once she's properly informed though and willing to discuss with Sayaka, making it too much our business is just meddling to no real end.
 
I think it's something they're going to have to work out on their own...mostly.

We've planned to address to Hitomi why it affects other parts of their lives, like how their mutual crush might resolve, or Sayaka's likelihood to contract. Once she's properly informed though and willing to discuss with Sayaka, making it too much our business is just meddling to no real end.
Yeah. Hitomi is obviously aware of the issue and is actively trying to resolve it. She tried to resolve it in the last update by switching the focus to us (which is a bit annoying), but at least she's trying. Gambate, Hitomi! You can do it!
 
anyone else what to do something about Sayaka's "I feel indebted to Hitome and I feel awful" thing?
We could give Sayaka the task of figuring out how to use our ungodly powers to make mucho dinero, then have her use some of it to pay her back. She should be capable of it; there's like 4+ easy, legal ways to make a steaming pile of cash we've worked out so far.
 
Pretty much what I expected on the Hitomi and telepathy.

Next time we come across Kyubey (and we will, either to deposit spare grief, or when it snoops in on what we are doing), we should ask for it to "hook her up".

Ugolino is right though, calling it over at this time (while the others are around) is a bad idea.
 
I know it's a terrible idea, but I kind of want to make it Oriko's mission to pay for the damage she caused by arson. Get her to apologize and if she's got the inherited funds for it, fund housing for the people she's hurted, and if she doesn't, then it can be a long term thing for when we bash her in the head with the fact that she's not dying anytime soon and that fatalism doesn't suit her.
 
I know it's a terrible idea, but I kind of want to make it Oriko's mission to pay for the damage she caused by arson. Get her to apologize and if she's got the inherited funds for it, fund housing for the people she's hurted, and if she doesn't, then it can be a long term thing for when we bash her in the head with the fact that she's not dying anytime soon and that fatalism doesn't suit her.

Even if we don't actually do anything about it, we could "transfer" Sayaka's supposed debt to Hitomi to her, on the grounds that A) she probably has the money and B) the problem was her fault.

Just an offhand "If anyone should be paying her back it should be Oriko. I'll talk to her at some point. Right after working through her psychological issues. And yours. And everyone else's." "What's that?" "Nothing!"


Sakaya: "Wait, you've been in friendly-ish contact with the person who burned down my house?"

Sabrina: "Well the thing about that is it turns out it was just some misguided plan to save your life. She can see the future, mostly, but goes a bit weird sometimes without a sane person around to point out how crazy her plans are. But now that she's got me to do that everything should be fine!" *oblivious to having described herself as sane, and to the looks she's getting for having done so*
 
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Even if we don't actually do anything about it, we could "transfer" Sayaka's supposed debt to Hitomi to her, on the grounds that A) she probably has the money and B) the problem was her fault.

Just an offhand "If anyone should be paying her back it should be Oriko. I'll talk to her at some point. Right after working through her psychological issues. And yours. And everyone else's." "What's that?" "Nothing!"
Problem's that introducing Oriko to anybody seems like a bad idea. I think we've never even mentioned that we know who set the fire, who pushed Hitomi down the stairs, who told Kyubey about Yuma... Much less that we've caught them and we're working with them.

So, making Oriko pay for it would first require that we tell Sayaka about Oriko...
 
"I might know someone [literally anyone] who knows someone [Sabrina again] who has a friend [Kirika] who knows the person who set the fire. I might be able to figure out a way to get them to pay for the damages."
 
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We could give Sayaka the task of figuring out how to use our ungodly powers to make mucho dinero, then have her use some of it to pay her back. She should be capable of it; there's like 4+ easy, legal ways to make a steaming pile of cash we've worked out so far.
Speaking of which -
We can make an unreasonably tough platform out of grief, up to the limits of our control range.
We can apply large, reactionless forces to it.
We don't need to breathe.

So the only limiting factor on how much mass we can fly around is how much stuff we can balance on a hundred-metre-radius platform.
Or, to put it another way; we have vastly more spacelift capacity than the rest of humanity - combined - and fuck the haters Tsiolkovsky rocket equation. As far as I can tell, we could plausibly loft upwards of a hundred fully-loaded Saturn V rockets ... at once.
This is so hilariously lucrative that I don't even.
 
So the only limiting factor on how much mass we can fly around is how much stuff we can balance on a hundred-metre-radius platform.
We can also put more platforms above and below us with diminishing radius as it gets further from us. Big stuff balanced on top, small stuff stored below.

However, I'm not sure we have the fine control necessary to put something in an orbit where it doesn't run into anything else.
 
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