That may not be the case if @Sayle does the same phaser layout diagram as was done for the NX. Since that changed the firepower for the NX.
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That may not be the case if @Sayle does the same phaser layout diagram as was done for the NX. Since that changed the firepower for the NX.
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In tractor beams, sure, but a shuttlebay makes a better analogue for a pocket.
Ah, gotcha. I'm forgetting that the cost of the old system is discounted from the cost increase but not the refit cost.
Still, I would like us to have the option to upgrade the engines and torpedoes, but not the cannons.
Mhh the full upgrade looks nice what the hell lets do it. 5 Nx enterprise and full upgrades
You Understand that the NX is not just a Scientific explorer RIGHT? She is also a diplomatic vessel, Our Main Combat ship, Our main(and only) first responder to emergencies, and our main Anti piracy patrol vessel. Please explain why we will need less of them instead as many as we can built?
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[X] Recommend a three-ship run over the next five years. (-27.6 Industry)
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I understand that the NX is not up to snuff as a scientific explorer, and so should not be used in that role at all, instead being used in the roles for which she was designed: planetary and interstellar defense, patrol, and internal relief. But that means we still need to actually build a scientific explorer, which will require industry, which will need to be conserved.
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Part of what I was thinking. More NXs are great, but we already have a bunch of stringrays that could could get a huge boost to their usefulness without the need to build an entire new ship from scratch to fufill that need.
An NX that needs to be pulled back to perform stingray-like duties at warp 5(ish) is a big chunk of wasted time and industrial capacity on all those snazzy gubbins that NXs have that aren't useful (or might be overkill) in that scenario. They're a big gun for starfleet, but sometimes you just need a gun in the right place rather than a big one. I think leaving spare capacity for stingray refits is the best way of filling that potential need.
There's hardly a definitive right or wrong answer here though.
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The NX is a scientific explorer? just because it doesn't have all the science shinies doesn't mean it isn't.
Empress_Boog
Grand Empress
Not up to snuff? It has the best science output of any of the ships produced since we time traveled back to before the Federation was founded. To say it isn't up to snuff is disingenuous.
Does it have the most scientific facilities that could have been stuffed on it? No. Is it still the best ship at doing science that we have built? YES!
... Mirrorverse!Yoyodyne
there is nothing about the Fuckin' Galaxy-class that includes the word "pocket"
pocket as in "wow those peaceful exploration ship you have seem very armed" reads the headlines from the (not at all jealous)
[X] Recommend a three-ship run over the next five years. (-27.6 Industry)
Our NX is already better at the Exporatory job than the canon one was, and we even launched her complete and with a shakedown run. If our NX is a failure of an Exploratory ship, the Canon one was a disaster.
[X] Recommend a three-ship run over the next five years. (-27.6 Industry)
I'll say three because I did not expect us to get a production run PERIOD, and the extra economic power can help us refit the Stingrays and Zheng Hes.
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[X] Recommend a three-ship run over the next five years. (-27.6 Industry)
So we can afford a major upgrade to the stingrays
So we can afford a major upgrade to the stingrays
[X] Recommend a three-ship run over the next five years. (-27.6 Industry)
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[X] Recommend a five-ship run over the next five years. (-46 Industry)
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I don't get where the attitude of "we didn't pick all the science stuff so it's shit at science" comes from.
Jensaarai
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We have no idea what the canon NX's Science stat would've been, but our version is definitely a bit lopsided in the Tactical and Engineering, and certainly doesn't have the canon ship's two science labs.
Along with the fact that Engineering doesn't really apply to Science stuff.
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[X] Recommend a five-ship run over the next five years. (-46 Industry)
I personally believe we want engine rather than weapon upgrades regardless of cost, and as the engines are cheaper we don't need to go super cost-cutting on the NX production in order to get the Stingray refits done in a reasonable amount of time. We'll definitely want to go +Industry on our next Industry Or Tech choice with this, but it's such a solid design that I can't see Starfleet not getting massive use out of each one we build.
I personally believe we want engine rather than weapon upgrades regardless of cost, and as the engines are cheaper we don't need to go super cost-cutting on the NX production in order to get the Stingray refits done in a reasonable amount of time. We'll definitely want to go +Industry on our next Industry Or Tech choice with this, but it's such a solid design that I can't see Starfleet not getting massive use out of each one we build.
Empress_Boog
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[X] Recommend a three-ship run over the next five years. (-27.6 Industry)
Im going with this option because if we do this, after the Stingray refits we will have enough industry to build two at once. Which will be EVEN MORE TERRIFYING FOR THE VULCANS!
"Vulcans are cowards, the only way to safeguard your place in the galaxy is by having a big gun!" -Admiral Black, Head of the SDB
Im going with this option because if we do this, after the Stingray refits we will have enough industry to build two at once. Which will be EVEN MORE TERRIFYING FOR THE VULCANS!
"Vulcans are cowards, the only way to safeguard your place in the galaxy is by having a big gun!" -Admiral Black, Head of the SDB
