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@Arathnorn

--[x] Tobe (Train ''''''your ninja'''''' some more)
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Tobe came back into his office recently smelling like shoelaces and orange soda, exhausted but clearly happy.

You're not sure you want to know what goes on in his """Training Sessions""".
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Is there supposed to be a progress bar on the """"your ninja""""" personal we unlocked from that Orton Mahlson action? IIRC we rolled fairly well on our attempt of it but didn't get a result yet, have the option of attempting it again, but have no progress bar either.

Or maybe by the nature of the action having to be kept secret from Doof, there is a progress bar that is invisible to us?
 
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Nystical said:
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Is there supposed to be a progress bar on the """"your ninja""""" personal we unlocked from that Orton Mahlson action? IIRC we rolled fairly well on our attempt of it but didn't get a result yet, have the option of attempting it again, but have no progress bar either.

Or maybe by the nature of the action having to be kept secret from Doof, there is a progress bar that is invisible to us?
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I find the last bit the most likely. I do think it's an action worth following up on soon.
 
Made in Heaven said:
[ ] Develop Civilian AI
DC 120

There are many things an artificial intelligence can do that a comparable human is simply less efficient at. A suggested use for our newfound powers of creation is to simply design intelligences, place them in front of useful problems, and… see what happens. This would neatly handle most of the issues inherent in the act, as you would neither be selling thinking beings nor putting weapons in their hands. Instead, you'd have a pretty-much free-willed robot managing your stock allocations, calibrating your delicate instruments, possibly, eventually, even robot surgeons more precise than any human! It will… take a while to set up, though, since you'll basically be screening for and then promoting those glimmers of sentience that seem to be the start of the whole shebang in a much more.. humane? manner than more profitable options.

Council Outlook: 3/5 (Pass)

Coyote: Hrm. Well, I've not had the best track record with automatons, howeverrr… (Abstain)
Goofy: Sounds great! I'd love to have some new pals around. (Pass)
Janus Lee: Doctor, this would be an enormous waste of such a breakthrough. Please, take the sensible option and profit off of this. Think of everything we could do! (Veto)
Mirage: Very well, but I must insist we take appropriate precautions. (Pass)
Ludivine: Ken we hurry dis up? Marsy has a rotor buffing at four. (Pass)
Malifishmirtz: Pfft, treat golems like people. Pfft. C'mon. (Veto)

Outcome: -2 Funds, Income increase? Reduced DCs? Efficiency traits? More? Results will take time to manifest.
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@Arathnorn , what happens in this option if a sapient robot doesn't want to stick around DEI? Would we force it to stay because it's our property, keeping it as a slave? Or would we not do slavery and just let it go instead?

Also, would it be a safe assumption that any such robots would get paid a salary as well?

Would this count as a coding action for Alan, or no?

Why does it take time to create these AI as opposed to creating commercial or military AI?
 
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*sigh* Screw it.

[X] Plan: Star Hunt Part One

EDIT: Side note, just binge-watched Owl House (definitely recommend; Lumity is now the cutest couple I have ever seen and I will die on that hill), and I swear that I've seen the Emperor (the main bad guy) on one of weredrago's cards, if not in the quest itself. Can someone remind me which post that was?
 
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[X] Plan: Star Hunt Part One


Without a massive upset incoming it looks like we're doing this one
 
BurnBright said:
@Arathnorn , what happens in this option if a sapient robot doesn't want to stick around DEI? Would we force it to stay because it's our property, keeping it as a slave? Or would we not do slavery and just let it go instead?

Also, would it be a safe assumption that any such robots would get paid a salary as well?

Would this count as a coding action for Alan, or no?

Why does it take time to create these AI as opposed to creating commercial or military AI?
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Civilian AI is producing robots that are civilians.

You are creating AI systems which you then slowly humanize over a period of months, introducing them to various problems DEI has and seeing which ones they take to, and slotting into DEI architecture for lack of a better term 'organically'. They can leave if they want to and are likely to ask for salaries. This is considerably slower and with less of a guaranteed reward than consumer AI, which consists of paying interns to spend 3 8-hour shifts a day to talk to a robot until it meets a minimum criteria of responsiveness then shipping it off to the highest bidder.
 
Arathnorn said:
Civilian AI is producing robots that are civilians.

You are creating AI systems which you then slowly humanize over a period of months, introducing them to various problems DEI has and seeing which ones they take to, and slotting into DEI architecture for lack of a better term 'organically'. They can leave if they want to and are likely to ask for salaries. This is considerably slower and with less of a guaranteed reward than consumer AI, which consists of paying interns to spend 3 8-hour shifts a day to talk to a robot until it meets a minimum criteria of responsiveness then shipping it off to the highest bidder.
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And that minimum criterion of responsiveness is above our deadbolt limit, correct, @Arathnorn ?

Once we have the deadbolt, could we produce non sapient AI and use a diplomacy action to sell them as 'from the discoverers of the secrets of sapient artificial intelligence' to attempt to break into the market without actually selling people?
 
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