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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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I'm not going to weigh in on the logic of either side's arguments, but I will ask that everyone read over what they write and really consider if the words they used are polite and won't be inflammatory intentionally or not. You cant account for people's tolerances perfectly but at least try to say your piece without saying things that can be easily construed as overly dismissive of the other side of the argument, thank you.

Please endeavour to be cordial. :^)
 
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Fine. Fine. If the idiots are choosing to be cheeky and finagle a way to stay in your home, they're going to at least pay for the privilege! It will require a good deal of work, and cost a pretty penny both in time and effort, but if it's going to be done, then it's going to be done right. Your southern colleagues may grumble and growl, but when have they not? You're over a thousand years old, they can suck on a particularly porous piece of pumice for all you care! Unlocks further options.

[X] [Burudin:] Yes:
Gain title, Member of the Burudin. Options Unlocked. Yorri is too plagued by his mysterious old hurts to see the truth. Accept Alric's offer, and join the Burudin.

Let's build this Center for Runic Learning! I also feel Alric knows exactly what Yorri is ranting about and wants Snorri to help balance and counteract it. Injecting a few progressive and radical ideas into a bunch of conservative runesmiths is necessary to balance it out.

Politics sucks, but Snorri has to play the game now. This way we can avoid being shut out long term.
 
soulcake said:
To an Elf, she is an ugly ship, a walking block of wood, rope and cloth that batters at the water to let it pass rather than glide through it.

To a Dwarf, it is the minimum amount of safety precautions a ship must have for even the most radical of engineers to dare set foot upon.
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I need to see a scene of an elf official whose first face-to-face interaction with the dwarfs is Bountiful Valaya. :grin:
soulcake said:
Bountiful Valaya is but the harbinger, and though a sensible Dwarf should prefer the solid stone to the undulating currents of the ocean, their people will not be confounded or afraid by something so chaotic and impertinent as some salty water.
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-raises ale stein in agreement-
soulcake said:
He beseeches Valaya for her protection, coming to the conclusion that he's long past the point of needing her wisdom.
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Alright, we have the dwarf gryphon riders. Now all we need are enchanted hammers that explode in blasts of lightning when thrown and then return to the dwarf's hand.
soulcake said:
"Aye, the Temple will have difficulty filling the gap Moira left,
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Yeah, where are they going to find someone with a good enough pan arm to dent Snorri's skull? :tongue:
soulcake said:
Unlike their Azyr and Ghur wielding counterparts the Chamon wielding Silverbearers armoured themselves in suits of plate so heavy that most cannot fly with them on. Each suit of armour is apparently forged over the course of a Silverbearer's training, each individual piece being created and replaced as the Griffon grows more skilled in their manipulation of the Golden Wind. The suits are intricate works of art, a fusion of Dwarf and Brana aesthetics made by manipulating metal through the use of Chamon and personalized by the individual touch of their wearer. Some of the metals incorporated into the armour look like nothing you have ever seen, though whether it is simply magically inundated steel or some exotic metal the Brana found.
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So essentially over-sized demigryphs (they can't fly like that) in enchanted plate armor heavy enough that they can probably face-tank bolt throwers. Me likes.

[X] [Burudin:] No
[X] [Home:] Reject
- [X] Find new accommodations: In removing one problem, that being the overcrowding of your home, you have created another. Perhaps it is no concern of yours, but you will do what you can to find a way to house them now that squatting in your home is no longer an option. Unlocks further options.

Yorri might be bitter about it but I doubt he'd give this advice for no reason. As for the beardlings, our home is our home; we need some privacy. But also we can't trust this gaggle not to fuss things up if left to thier own devices.
 
Wing101r said:
Can the Rune of Featherweight be applied in A Bolt Thrower or is it purely an Armor rune
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Because it's new Dolgi has to develop a variant and share it with you. Otherwise, you do the research action yourself.
Wing101r said:
When the rune of speed is applied on a Bolt thrower does in increase speed of firing rate or speed of movement?
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Short Answer: yes.

Long Answer: the name of the Rune means nothing. You definitely have a Rune that would accelerate a projectile, but idk what I'd name it. That actually highlights something and maybe I should change it. >_>

Dark as Silver said:
Who dis?
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Aldrhun is the older, pictographic script of the Dwarfs.

Both Agrurhun and Klinkarhun are written Khazalid, the former's character and symbol-based while the latter is an alphabet.
 
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[x] [Burudin:] Yes:

Anyone who thinks causing schism isn't a bad thing or is overblown needs to keep in mind the cultural context the Dwarfs are operating in. We were told some of these traditions exist for a reason, we know that in semi-living memory before the Ancestors there was constant internecine feuding and exploitation. All these seemingly outdated and outmoded traditions are intended to prevent institutional feuding. If we lay the groundwork for a central institution of rune working in the North, while rejecting the influence of the South- we are dividing the Guild, we are categorically rejecting what Dwarfs view as the most important gift the Ancestors brought, and we are inviting Grudges. It is a terrible precedent, and serves our interests very little- I think Snorri is underplaying the risk of what he's doing because he has no context for the idea of centralized learning and research.
 
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Tobtorp said:
You really think this will stop yorri from being family? Do you really think that? Because I think we could only manage that if we actively tried, and this is not it...
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Of course not, that would be pointless catastrophizing. Yorri has shown himself to be a person of trustworthiness. He also had a major influence over Snorri's life. I am inclined to believe his warning to join a group that only really increases prestige, of which we already have plenty.

soulcake said:
Because it's new Dolgi has to develop a variant and share it with you. Otherwise, you do the research action yourself.
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Could you make note of that in the Rune List then?
 
[X] [Home:] Embrace
Fine. Fine. If the idiots are choosing to be cheeky and finagle a way to stay in your home, they're going to at least pay for the privilege! It will require a good deal of work, and cost a pretty penny both in time and effort, but if it's going to be done, then it's going to be done right. Your southern colleagues may grumble and growl, but when have they not? You're over a thousand years old, they can suck on a particularly porous piece of pumice for all you care! Unlocks further options.

[X] [Burudin:] Yes:
Gain title, Member of the Burudin. Options Unlocked. Yorri is too plagued by his mysterious old hurts to see the truth. Accept Alric's offer, and join the Burudin.
 
[X] [Burudin:] No

I'm not too sure what would be best for the Housing issue, but I'm saying No to the Burudin. Yori hasn't steered us wrong before has he? And if he's that upset with this group, then they have done something to earn that ire and thus are not something we waint to taint ourselves with. We can work With them, just not As them.


[X] [Home:] Reject
- [X] Find new accommodations: In removing one problem, that being the overcrowding of your home, you have created another. Perhaps it is no concern of yours, but you will do what you can to find a way to house them now that squatting in your home is no longer an option. Unlocks further options.

And this is our house damn it. I understand the need to store things in a safe place, but damn if it isn't annoying to see people storing themselves in a location meant for items. I'd say that finding a new accommodiation would be first though, as we do need some personal space - and our Heir isn't the random runelords who show up. It'd be halarious to Embrace though, as that sounds like deciding "FINE, you are all apprentices now. SUFFER MY GRUMBLING BEARDLINGS."
 
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MrHobbit said:
Of course not, that would be pointless catastrophizing. Yorri has shown himself to be a person of trustworthiness. He also had a major influence over Snorri's life. I am inclined to believe his warning to join a group that only really increases prestige, of which we already have plenty.


Could you make note of that in the Rune List then?
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It's the Weight of Things option. I will add that in potential rewards tho if it wasn't clear.
 
Could the Embrace option lead to the creation of an Institution of Learning for Runecraft? Instead of a Guild-based apprenticeship, we could pioneer a University system that cranks out graduates by the hundreds.
 
One other thing to remember is that if we join the Burudin, we basically come under their sway. Joining a group brings strings, requirements, expectations. I'd rther just keep doing our own thing, say thank you but that we don't yet feel worthy of it ourselves.
 
MrHobbit said:
Of course not, that would be pointless catastrophizing. Yorri has shown himself to be a person of trustworthiness. He also had a major influence over Snorri's life. I am inclined to believe his warning to join a group that only really increases prestige, of which we already have plenty.
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On the other hand he also didn't want us to help with the waystones and that one is of monumental importance. Yorri is wise, but he's also set in his way and scarred by his experiences. Should that stop us from doing it our way just because he's not OK with it? Or at least seeing what there is that he's so against?
 
Karugus said:
[x] [Home:] Embrace
[x] [Burudin:] Yes:

Anyone who thinks causing schism isn't a bad thing or is overblown needs to keep in mind the cultural context the Dwarfs are operating in. We were told some of these traditions exist for a reason, we know that in semi-living memory before the Ancestors there was constant internecine feuding and exploitation. All these seemingly outdated and outmoded traditions are intended to prevent institutional feuding. If we lay the groundwork for a central institution of rune working in the North, while rejecting the influence of the South- we are dividing the Guild, we are categorically rejecting what Dwarfs view as the most important gift the Ancestors brought, and we are inviting Grudges. It is a terrible precedent, and serves our interests very little- I think Snorri is underplaying the risk of what he's doing because he has no context for the idea of centralized learning and research.
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This opinion should be compared to the state of the Dawi in the canon timeline, who didn't change their traditions at all. They are a dying race barely holding on from the edge of extinction. Certainly, there is risk in causing discordance in Dawi society, but the society as it is is not prepared for the future that awaits them. It is likely that the Ancestors would have made the changes themselves if they were still around to do it, but alas by that time they were not.

HanEmpire said:
Could the Embrace option lead to the creation of an Institution of Learning for Runecraft? Instead of a Guild-based apprenticeship, we could pioneer a University system that cranks out graduates by the hundreds.
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God no, that would be literally blasphemy. We would be expelled from the guild and quite possibly put to death for such heresy, the bonds between Master and Apprentice are sacrosanct.
 
Rukia said:
God no, that would be literally blasphemy. We would be expelled from the guild and quite possibly put to death for such heresy, the bonds between Master and Apprentice are sacrosanct.
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Wut? I was talking about politics. If you join a high-visibility group like that, you are going to be pressured to toe the line, one way or another, to make the group look like a cohesive whole.
 
Rukia said:
This opinion should be compared to the state of the Dawi in the canon timeline, who didn't change their traditions at all. They are a dying race barely holding on from the edge of extinction. Certainly, there is risk in causing discordance in Dawi society, but the society as it is is not prepared for the future that awaits them. It is likely that the Ancestors would have made the changes themselves if they were still around to do it, but alas by that time they were not.
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I do think joining the Burundi would make it easier to change the institutions of runesmithing from within. We don't need to be a revolutionary, we can be a reformer.
 
[X] [Burudin:] Yes
[X] [Home:] Maintain
[X] [Home:] Reject
- [X] Find new accommodations: In removing one problem, that being the overcrowding of your home, you have created another. Perhaps it is no concern of yours, but you will do what you can to find a way to house them now that squatting in your home is no longer an option. Unlocks further options
 
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