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Re Chaos vs Necromancy

The philosophies of both parties are indeed inherently opposed. Nagash wanted to rule over a dead world, one utterly under his control and without any space for rebellion, new thought or similar Chaos.

Night's Dark Masters, among other sources, does indeed confirm specific cases where necromancers and chaos sorcerers would be in conflict, for example vampires 'stealing' Khorne's bloody tributes when they feed.

However in other areas, I believe in the Tome of Corruption, it's noted that the Purple Hand, the main Tzeenchian cult, are trying to combine chaos and necromantic magic.

Metaphysically the undead are generally immune from chaosy stuff, particularly vampires, though the sources are often contradictory on this and I think it likely GW don't particularly care to clarify it.

Ultimately it comes down to a philosophical question. Can an vampire, necromancer, or otherwise life-challenged individual serve/work/cooperate or otherwise interact with Chaos? Yes certainly. This might be in legitimate cooperation, or it might be simply in trade or similar, like an exchange of dark grimoires, or this could be in some other fashion like a necromancer invoking some demons to distract their enemies.

These are relatively minor matters. Chaos hates stasis, necromancy is all about stasis. If necromancers got close to being able to resurrect nagash or similar they would be opposed by agents of chaos who don't want that to happen, and at the higher levels they're mutually exclusive.

Also I find this talk of heart ripping in quests quite funny as the questers in one of mine have also decided on a similar path.
 
If we found a research institute through one of our Great Deeds, would it be possible to change the geographic location of its HQ at some point in the future? Including to areas outside the official borders of the Empire?
How exactly would you move a monumental amount of influence, resources and materials that it takes to build the appropriate facilities?
 
I am not going to clarify the exact line of how insane Mathilde can go without it being a game over, and I would advise everyone against making assumptions about where that line would be. Try it and find out.
If you see the sanity meter, then it's just another resource. If you can't see the sanity meter, it's terrifying.
It's the even less benevolent version of familiar obesssion.
 
The philosophies of both parties are indeed inherently opposed. Nagash wanted to rule over a dead world, one utterly under his control and without any space for rebellion, new thought or similar Chaos.

I'd say that each chaos god ultimately wants to utterly dominate the universe and in that all chaos gods and Nagash are similar and evil.

The difference is that there are 4 chaos gods who sometimes unite against the world and their ways of manifesting their power are similar to each other. While Nagash and necromancers have a different way of their power.
 
[X] DIPLO: Draconic Fascination
[X] DIPLO: Polyglot
[X] LESSON: Dhar Insight
[X] LESSON: Mystic
[X] LESSON: Theologian

It's Heresy, then. (Along with a splash of bonding with Cython over his favorite crossword puzzles.)
 
All this talk about soul claims and retirement homes makes me wonder how much crossover there is between being a death priest and a lawyer.

I wouldn't think so? Mathilde is literally the first human to ever be declared full out Dawi, Im pretty sure not even Sigmar got that much. I think in 99% of cases who's job it is to do the funeral rites is pretty damn straightforward and that 75% of those cases it pretty much boils down to "Whatever death god peeps can get it to first before the necromancers do"
 
Re Chaos vs Necromancy

The philosophies of both parties are indeed inherently opposed. Nagash wanted to rule over a dead world, one utterly under his control and without any space for rebellion, new thought or similar Chaos.

Night's Dark Masters, among other sources, does indeed confirm specific cases where necromancers and chaos sorcerers would be in conflict, for example vampires 'stealing' Khorne's bloody tributes when they feed.

However in other areas, I believe in the Tome of Corruption, it's noted that the Purple Hand, the main Tzeenchian cult, are trying to combine chaos and necromantic magic.

Metaphysically the undead are generally immune from chaosy stuff, particularly vampires, though the sources are often contradictory on this and I think it likely GW don't particularly care to clarify it.

Ultimately it comes down to a philosophical question. Can an vampire, necromancer, or otherwise life-challenged individual serve/work/cooperate or otherwise interact with Chaos? Yes certainly. This might be in legitimate cooperation, or it might be simply in trade or similar, like an exchange of dark grimoires, or this could be in some other fashion like a necromancer invoking some demons to distract their enemies.

These are relatively minor matters. Chaos hates stasis, necromancy is all about stasis. If necromancers got close to being able to resurrect nagash or similar they would be opposed by agents of chaos who don't want that to happen, and at the higher levels they're mutually exclusive.

Also I find this talk of heart ripping in quests quite funny as the questers in one of mine have also decided on a similar path.
I don't see why anybody would be trying to resurrect Nagash when he's been resurrected for 8 centuries by now.

And, again, NDM only says that Chaos followers don't like Vampires, it makes no statement about necromancers or necromancy.
 
I don't see why anybody would be trying to resurrect Nagash when he's been resurrected for 8 centuries by now.
Ya, this is not actually common knowledge. The last time we talked about this i was actually really surprised that canon seems to indicate he is.. uh. Alive? Only single dead instead of double dead? I blame Dynasty.
 
I don't see why anybody would be trying to resurrect Nagash when he's been resurrected for 8 centuries by now.

And, again, NDM only says that Chaos followers don't like Vampires, it makes no statement about necromancers or necromancy.
I'm not knowledgable about WHF lore. What's this about Nagash being resurrected? He's out there right now? Why isn't he doing anything then.
 
I'm not knowledgable about WHF lore. What's this about Nagash being resurrected? He's out there right now? Why isn't he doing anything then.
GW was highly inconsistent with Nagash, but since this quest isn't using End Times I believe he pulled himself back together 1,666 years after Sigmar killed him, but for some reason he decided to start using minions after that. So people like Arkhan the Black are running around and collecting artifacts/performing rituals for him while he lurks in his fortress and plots.
 
I'm not knowledgable about WHF lore. What's this about Nagash being resurrected? He's out there right now? Why isn't he doing anything then.
he is currently chilling in his holiday home down the road from Karak Azul as a 'not quite back to 50% power' lich king.

edit: in't unclear how many people actually know he is back tho
 
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GW was highly inconsistent with Nagash, but since this quest isn't using End Times I believe he pulled himself back together 1,666 years after Sigmar killed him, but for some reason he decided to start using minions after that. So people like Arkhan the Black are running around and collecting artifacts/performing rituals for him while he lurks in his fortress and plots.

Feels kind of weird for a Lord of the Undead lich king who wanted to rule the entire world under his undead claws just chilling for 800 years and staying quiet. Reading through Nagash's wiki page, and that man does not appear to have any subtlity whatsoever.
 
Feels kind of weird for a Lord of the Undead lich king who wanted to rule the entire world under his undead claws just chilling for 800 years and staying quiet. Reading through Nagash's wiki page, and that man does not appear to have any subtlity whatsoever.
Well, he did do the whole 'the dark lord marchs!' Thing... twice!

And got shanked both times.

this is his stealth run through.

he might try max income next if this doesn't work out.
 
I do like the interpretation that Nagash is a god tier spellcaster on par with Calador Dragontamer and Malzdamundi but he's kinda terrible at everything else, like "military strategy" and "diplomacy."
 
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