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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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picklepikkl said:
So, compatriots of the thread, I ask you: what supernatural force heaps misery on those who travel east but blessings on those who travel west?

That's right: jet lag is the curse of Eru Ilúvatar levied on those who would join the forces of Sauron.
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But a universal law of magic is that nothing comes for free.
Travel far enough West, and you will have an entire day stolen from you in payment for the boon of hours given to less far-flung travellers.
Travel far enough, fast enough East from the (in)correct location, and you may find Chaos impinging your reality as you arrive the day before your departure.
 
reigndrops said:
- Why did Borek (Karg dum guy) gather hundreds of people together for an expedition to go to this castle just so he could abandon everyone and walk into it alone? Why didn't he just go by himself in the first place?? I was so confused at that part.
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He didn't know that he was going to abandon them when he started the expedition. He hoped that he would be saving Karag Dum before whatever happened with Cor-Dum happened.
 
Saidoro said:
Honestly, I've thought since the topic first came up that inter-city teleport towers (even ones as close as K8P and Barak Varr) seemed unlikely, even if we bring in expertise from the Grey college. Just haven't mentioned it before because there didn't seem to be much point before taking the action.

But even with that said, it could be worth spending an action to see what sort of candy's in the piñata, it's an interesting project and we can still use it while we're in K8P, or if we need to come to its defense. It's not like the tower was something we really needed on a day-to-day basis even while living there, it was always going to be an emergency measure. (Besides, Cython might think it's neat.)
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Worth trying out to see what comes out.
 
Killer_Whale said:
I know Ranald likes cats, but do they like fish?
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Why am I imagining Mathilde trying to find an acceptable brand of fish to put as offering to Ranald...

I bet she'd be stuck buying fish from Dwarves, as they'd feel honorbound to not sell her bad fish. Aaand now the dawi think Ranald the god of cats is some kind of sea god, Manaan is glowering at him. 😅
 
Not like cats are particularly well adapted to eating fish anyway. Its a bit like the rabbit-carrot stereotype. Meat is meat, but its not a type of meat they're adapted to eating heavily.
 
Wrong wrong wrong. All of you are wrong. The only fish acceptable to offer to Ranald are clownfish.
Someone get the nets and rent a boat, I'll get the barbeque. It's time for finding Nemo :mad:
 
Can Mathilde cast Mookery of Substance on herself? It seems like a convenient way to phase through walls even without a shadow on the other side. It also seems intriguing for use in engineering when you can manipulate things inside an object without actually interacting with the container.
 
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Killer_Whale said:
I know Ranald likes cats, but do they like fish?
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Fehu said:
Why am I imagining Mathilde trying to find an acceptable brand of fish to put as offering to Ranald...

I bet she'd be stuck buying fish from Dwarves, as they'd feel honorbound to not sell her bad fish. Aaand now the dawi think Ranald the god of cats is some kind of sea god, Manaan is glowering at him. 😅
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I mean, he seemed to enjoy munching on shark that one time... :V
 
Shard said:
Can Mathilde cast Mookery of Substance on herself? It seems like a convenient way to phase through walls even without a shadow on the other side. It also seems intriguing for use in engineering when you can manipulate things inside an object without actually interacting with the container.
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Casting a spell that knocks you out and also makes you phase through matter on yourself seems like the sort of thing you are advised against in the colleges.
 
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Shard said:
Can Mathilde cast Mookery of Substance on herself? It seems like a convenient way to phase through walls even without a shadow on the other side. It also seems intriguing for use in engineering when you can manipulate things inside an object without actually interacting with the container.
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Herself would be a bad plan. On others to shove through a wall to break into a fortress? Possibly more doable and less suicidal as long as she knows the layout.
 
Shard said:
Can Mathilde cast Mookery of Substance on herself? It seems like a convenient way to phase through walls even without a shadow on the other side. It also seems intriguing for use in engineering when you can manipulate things inside an object without actually interacting with the container.
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I brought it up when it was first created, and if I'm remembering correctly Boney said it could be done, but would require very complicated and multiple uses of Move to not be at risk of getting stuck halfway through walls and stuff. There was something about trying to enchant an item for that—so we don't have to risk chain-casting—and needing to practice manipulating the spell for fine control, but it would basically amount to Mathilde having to learn how to puppet her own body with magic.

So possible, but it would probably take a couple AP at least to make functional. And that's if I'm remembering the conversation correctly, which is never garunteed.
 
@BoneyM I remember you said they only teach Cataclysm Spells if you have a very good reason to learn them, but then what's the procedure when there's Storms of Magic around? Can you learn them fast enough to use them on the battlefield before the Arcane Fulcrums disappear?
 
Andres110 said:
@BoneyM I remember you said they only teach Cataclysm Spells if you have a very good reason to learn them, but then what's the procedure when there's Storms of Magic around? Can you learn them fast enough to use them on the battlefield before the Arcane Fulcrums disappear?
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Almost all Cataclysm spells were made on the spot.

I guess at that level of magic saturation, it's all about control and intention, not theory and knowledge.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
Almost all Cataclysm spells were made on the spot.

I guess at that level of magic saturation, it's all about control and intention, not theory and knowledge.
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Whenever the discussion of creating/learning magic comes up, I have to think of this bit about how star trek humans are all mad scientists.
Because the same goes for human wizards. If something goes horribly wrong with the Waystone Project, it'll probably be because a human did something reckless and harebrained. If it produces results this millenium, it will definitly be because a human did something reckless and harebrained.
 
BurnNote said:
Whenever the discussion of creating/learning magic comes up, I have to think of this bit about how star trek humans are all mad scientists.
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I want to point towards Mathilde robbing Mork, but I'd say that hat would have been a better fit if she had channeled Mork or her own Ulgu to make some sparks. :p

I guess Mt. DoomTowerDefense counts though! Typical umgi hooking up Divine power with one eigth of the worlds magic to de-weed some OrkShrooms!
 
Fehu said:
I want to point towards Mathilde robbing Mork, but I'd say that hat would have been a better fit if she had channeled Mork or her own Ulgu to make some sparks. :p

I guess Mt. DoomTowerDefense counts though! Typical umgi hooking up Divine power with one eigth of the worlds magic to de-weed some OrkShrooms!
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The doom tower is solid dwarf work. In parts anyway. No, the really crazy magical superweapon of dwarfhold Karak-Eight-Peaks is the dragon stone. Though the fact that there's multiple ones is a mite strange. Dwarf Infection spreads, but so does wizardness. We've seen the first wizard dwarf, how long till the next?

But honestly, I don't think Mathilde's crazy hijinks are a good example of human crazy. Stealing power from the gods is fucking impressive, but it's the sort of crazy a heroic elf or even dwarf ranger might get up to. Heroes do crazy shit, that's half of what makes them heroes.

The human crazy comes out in what they don't consider crazy. Like starting a new spell, getting bored and frustrated half a year in and successfully yoloing it to conclusion. They recently got some training rooms that make them less likely to explode while training. That this was both needed and not available is not considered a great indictment of previous leadership, but simply how things were. This is despite the fact that they actually have a tiny part of the population that can use magic at all. They also send out all trainee mages on dangerous journeys before they've finished training.
 
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