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@BoneyM while i would put money on it not being his main motivation.

I assume that Thorek is political enough to know that if he gets the proof that the anti-Dum Runelords are playing games and he recks shop.

that he will basically be able to direct the future of the guild as he pleases as the only powerful political rune lord left standing to the point of it basically being a hostile takeover.

like, not his reason to do it, but he must be aware that he will be totally taking over in the aftermath... and, is not against that result... even if its connected to a tragedy.
I'd assume he'd just see it as getting rid of the bad apples before they spoil more of the barrel than they already have. Necessary, regardless of the consequences.
 
A Toast
The tavern was full of laughter and light and life. It was near the evening, with the valley in shadow but the sky still bright, and touches fresh-lit casting ruddy tones across the crowd.

'We Goatkicked', coloquially known as the Goat, was quickly becoming a favorite of the fighters in the Karaks. It's name was a pun, obviously, both a reference to the time the bar's founder persuaded the We to experiment with alcohol (the sign was a carved We hunter, on its back, legs akimbo) and to a famous late-night drunken speech given soon after the Waaagh Birdmuncha, whom no one could quite remember who delivered, but was generally agreed to have proclaimed, "We few, we goatkicked few, we band of drunkards!"

The crowd was mixed tonight- the usuals in the Gunnery School's melee combat instructors, the undumgi drill sergeants, and a few of the junior officers, as well as some less regular faces.

A grey wizard sat near the back under 'take no heed', drinking and quietly taking note of moral and rumors. Soizic held court near the center, Hubert on one side and a civilian woman on the other, the table crowded about with visiting White Wolves and undumgi captains.

"A TOAST TO THE DAME MATHILDE!" Shouted one of the knights, and the wizard started violently, before realizing that no one has broken her spell. "SHE WHO LEADS US TO GLORY AGAINST THE OLD ENEMY!"

A cheer, and she realized that the grandmaster's enthusiasm had filtered down to the ranks quite undiluted. Also, that she was apparently not quite aware how popular she was with the wolfriders, if toasts were being made (by devout Ulricans!) like the greatswords used to do for Abel.

But now the conversation had moved on to the boasts. One of the junior knights began it, banging his mug down as he stood and declared,

"Steel and courage and the knowing of Ulric watching over us! We cut a swath to the gates of Kieslev on that alone, and I'd challenge any who say there are better against the chaos hordes!"

In this case, he who dared failed, for he did not read his audience. Some cheers, from the knights and some undumgi, but good-natured booing from the Gunnery school and joshing from the rest of the peanut gallery. One of the older knights spoke up,

"Aye, steel and courage'll get you far, but faith can be a bit more pointed. I've seen a priest- a real priest of the wolf, ya know?- swell with power enough to rip trolls limb from limb, and spread ice with every move. I reckon that would be best against the demons!"

He nodded deliberately. This time, there were no boos, and a respectful moment of silence, but then,

"Cannon! WOOHOOO!!!! Drown 'em in shot and powder boys, blast all those scary demons right back where they can from! YAAAAHH!!"

A corner of the room exploded in raucous cheers and hooting. Mugs were slammed together above heads by the artillery students who had theretofore been quietly lurking, but this meant the game was afoot.

"Ha!" Exclaimed Hubert, "far be it for me to disparage Ulric, and never let it be said that I despise steel or courage or gunpowder!" He shouts echoed and the corners of the room cheered back, before his voice dropped almost conspiratorially. "But if I were on the battlefield before the old enemy, I would cry out to Ulric for the heirophants to be at my side. The Light College has magic born and honed to scour away corruption in cleansing light, and the Battlemages of the Imperial Colleges rival even the elves in their control of it!"

He sat, and drank, and voices babbled over eachother to boast of their own personal prowess, and to call down such boasts. The Winter Wolves, those that would soon go north, made public oaths to bring back tales of demonslaying and their roles in it. All grew slowly quiet though, as Sir Soizic stood.

"Steel, aye! Courage, aye! Faith and magic? Why should the two be split? Let me tell you of the Lady's Damsels, paragons of light and life and virtue! Those who make other's courage into ability with their magic, and cast back demons with their faith! The greatest of her servants, to whom even the grail knights give honor! Aye, if I were to stand before all the demons in the north with only one beside me, I would take a damsel and look forward to victory!"

The room cheered, beer flowed, and a grey magister took thoughtful notes.



A/N: snippets about Soizic, or Why the Wizard Asked the Damsel. Had a bunny in my head about why Mathilde might reach out to Brettonian Damsels rather than knights, and it turned into an online rather than just a post.
 
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[X] Plan Perfectly Balanced
[X] Plan Unconvention

I'm just not a fan of trying to bring the damsels into this. Yes, they'd be an incredible asset if we could get them, but I think the likelihood is too low to be worth the time trying- we have nothing in particular to offer them, and there's no reason to suspect they're invested enough in the situation to risk a trip into the wastes for the sake of the expedition. It also feels uncomfortably close to metagaming to me; Mathilde has seen a single damsel during a series of lectures and didn't directly interact with her to any degree notable enough to get a text mention, she's never shown any particular interest in or knowledge of them before, and any reasoning involving the 'interest' vote is something Mathilde has no way of knowing in-universe.
I mean, I wrote In two versions that are a bit more sensible (questing knights with a damsel attached... or the other way around, hard to tell sometimes.) as that is a more likely narrative, questing knights go questing, and an atteched damsel would go with them.

So... if that is more to your taste... 'puppy dog eyes'
 
The main issue at hand is the conclave. Azul Runesmiths weren't present, so they don't have anything on record of them not taking the build-up to the Great War Against Chaos seriously, so they don't feel any need to disparage Karag Dum to avoid the need to take a Slayer Oath.

Thorek at least seemed to be siding with Karag Dum, at least in part.
And we are helping that, why?
If Thorek wants to do that he can send his own people, we should not help create that mess.
 
Hmmm... have been deliberating my vote till now, but the more I think of it... Kragg doesn't do politics, meaning he is unlikely to be involved in the whole mess, unless that mess was the catalyst for him not doing politics. Not EVERY runelord/runesmith will go slayer even if Thorek goes full destruction, and with Thorek and/or Dum methods replacing the old, the dawi may well replace runesmiths much faster than before....

yeah, lets offer him a chance to come....

Aaaand, I just realized all the top votes contain that allready. I must find another issue I feel strongly enough about to vote, then.
 
And we are helping that, why?
If Thorek wants to do that he can send his own people, we should not help create that mess.
Runesmiths are superb anti-magic heroes, relevant in case we encounter Chaos sorcery of some kind, and might be actually required to disarm traps, open sealed chambers, or identify runed items. During the K8P expedition, Kragg did a fair bit of unsealing of various points of interest.
 
[X] Plan Perfectly Balanced
[X] Plan: Fog Path to Success (A Damsel and Questing Knight, Rune smiths)
[X] PLAN: Chaos makes Taal feel peeved! (A Damsel and her knight's version)
 
As indifferent as I am to the concept of giving the EIC a better military, I don't think it actually serves much purpose.

It is supposed to be an information gathering network and improving its militia does not really help us any.

I view it as a way to keep a weather eye on the situation in the rest of the Empire for the sake of our loyalty to the empire and a way to tap into the gold mine of information that is supposed to be K8P once trade starts flowing further for the sake of our grey wizard-ness.

I'm not sure if we have already been doing that and nothing unusual enough to require our attention has passed through the Karak or if we need to take the action [ ] EIC: Insert agents into a particular province, cult, company, or institution to start gathering their secrets. (specify who) in order to actualize that potential.

I am categorically uninterested in helping the EIC become more successful until we make it more useful.
 
[X] Plan Perfectly Balanced
[X] PLAN: Chaos makes Taal feel peeved!

@Vebyast your plan, Unconvention appears to have no EIC action if I'm reading the a tally right.
 
[X] EIC: Found an auditors division, to make sure the ledgers are in order.

Unconventional position number three: Navy and Gong Farming are both low-utility.
Yeah. You're missing the -[*] indent on the EIC action so it's not showing quite right.
like, basic information. the brits have the most and best farmland in the old world.
The whole country is full of fantasy-France place names (or actual-historical-France: see Aquitaine). Yes, it happens to have (edition-dependant) silly grail knights wandering around, but if you're thinking of Arthurian myths, well, Lancelot was arguably fake-French (Frankish?) anyway.
 
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I read 'AV' as 'ABV'. Putting Aethyric Vitae in the Dragonflask is absolutely in 'try it and find out' territory.



You could invite him but it does mean that the guy who just said he'll detonate the Runesmiths Guild if he gets hard proof is going to the place with all the hard proof.

Welp, knocking out most of the old assholes may rock the runesmithing landscape and allow some radicals to step up with their skateboards emblazoned with the Master Rune of Grinding... so let's detonate the guild!

[X] Plan: Fog Path to Success (Damsels and Thorek)
 
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Yeah. You're missing the -[*] indent on the EIC action so it's not showing quite right.

The whole country is full of fantasy-France place names (or actual-historical-France: see Aquitaine). Yes, it happens to have (edition-dependant) silly grail knights wandering around, but if you're thinking of Arthurian myths, well, Lancelot was arguably fake-French (Frankish?) anyway.

King Arthur as we know him now is mostly a Norman invention, not Frankish, it's not accident he was valiantly holding off the evil Saxons, which is to say the people the Normans had just subjugated. In many ways Arthur was a attempt by a foreign aristocracy to make itself seem more local than the actual local nobles by hijacking an older Briton myth.
 
King Arthur as we know him now is mostly a Norman invention, not Frankish, it's not accident he was valiantly holding off the evil Saxons, which is to say the people the Normans had just subjugated. In many ways Arthur was a attempt by a foreign aristocracy to make itself seem more local than the actual local nobles by hijacking an older Briton myth.
Right, but he was pointing out that it also became very popular in France itself later on (Which is when Lancelot was added)
 
Welp, knocking out most of the old assholes may rock the runesmithing landscape and allow some radicals to step up with their skateboards emblazoned with the Master Rune of Grinding... so let's detonate the guild!

[X] Plan: Fog Path to Success (Damsels and Thorek)
... I'm beginning to develop a theory that there is a direct correlation between how much you like an Idea and now many smoking corpses will be left after said idea.
 
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