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I just realized that if we want to go down the path of theurgy and making Ranald the human god of magic, a fully reclaimed Karak Eight Peaks is probably the best place to conduct the ritual. It has what is going to be the most important holy site of Ranald and the largest stable population ship of Ranald worshipers. We are already in a position to begin to influence them and spread the idea that Ranald is associated with magic. The massive amount of trade that will be coming through soon will allow us to slowly spread the idea to the rest of the Empire. That would help make the ritual possible because Gods in Warhammer are made from the collective unconscious of their worshipers. Karak Eight Peaks is one of the largest concentrations of waystones in the Old world making any potential grand ritual easier to conduct and stabilize it if someone tries to disrupt it. We would assign each of the Karak's peaks a wind of magic for the ritual. Ideally we would create an area in each peak where a single wind gathers strongly as the symbolism is important for such a grand ritual.

Of course the whole plan does have three major problems. The first one being that we would have to convince all eight colleges of magic to help. That would require us to be a least the Matriarch of the Grey College but most likely need us to be the Supreme Matriarch if we wanted to guarantee cooperation. The next major problem is that the second the forces of Chaos gain any knowledge of the ritual they will send everything they have to destroy or corrupt it. The third problem is obviously convincing the dwarves to let a massive magic ritual happen in their newly reclaimed Karak. Thankfully solving that, even if it would cost all of our dwarf favor and then some, would help with the second problem as no one can defend like a dwarf.
 
[X] Travel to Karaz-a-Karak with King Belegar for the striking out of several well-aged grudges.

Belebro is just too great and I want to be his human friend, sue me.
 
And Mathilde *does not care*.
But it does mean that she'll be shitting on any arguments that her actions as mayor fit being a leader and face for the Altdorf based, Empire aligned Grey College.

If the cult of Sigmar fails to gain a foothold in K8P when we are just the Wizard, not our problem. If it fails to gain a foothold while Mayor Mathilde is actively stopping them from flourishing then the Grand Theogonist is going to be on to our Patriarch with: What the fuck is your magister playing at?
 
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I've been thinking of how I would build a teleport skill from the spells we already know: I'd start with Substance of Shadow, which already turns you into a physics-breaking shadow-stuff. Then you go a step further and completely turn yourself into shadow-magic for a fraction of a moment, which can travel the same way you would send a spell somewhere. Would also fit the side-long teleportation with other spells since you would just need to attach yourself to that spell and use it to propel yourself somewhere.

Since even the stand-alone version would be a more advanced version of a fiendishly-complex spell it would probably still straddle the line between "normal" spell and battle magic. The battle-magic version probably mainly centers around making the spell so stable that you can switch back and forth without having to recast it.
Given how it activates alongside other spells, I thought of it more as using the massive concentration of wind needed to cast battle magic to achieve a secondary effect by it's very presence, in this case blurring the position of the wizard across reality before allowing them to resolve somewhere else. This also explains why casting it standalone still works like battle magic; it requires battle magic levels of wind to be gathered even if using them is easy once they are.
 
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On second thought, I don't really want to do Mayor things; let, idk, Titus be one. We are better off being spymistress/wizard lady.

[X] Travel to Karaz-a-Karak with King Belegar for the striking out of several well-aged grudges.
[X] Scout the rest of the Eight Peaks, to find out what other horrors are waiting out there.
[X] Join Karak Azul as they raid and scout in force the other portions of the Karak.
[X] Write a series of papers on the magical phenomena you witnessed. Or better yet, get your Journeymanlings to do the actual writing.
[X] There's a lot of prime real estate currently unclaimed. Stake out a prime position for a wizard's tower.



...we should still get around to talking to Bursar about all the money though...
 
But it does mean that she'll be shitting on any arguments that her actions as mayor fit being a leader and face for the Altdorf based, Empire aligned Grey College.
I don't think you're correct in that assessment.
But, again, I don't think Mathilde would care. Check her Disdain for Sigmar trait.
She'd feel she's doing everyone a favour by keeping Sigmar out of K8P.
If our disdain of Sigmar overrules our Rationality, maybe it's time to take a step back and think about it.
I don't know if you were around at the time, but this trait is one of those Consequences I mentioned. It's a deeply held conviction.
 
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I just realized that if we want to go down the path of theurgy and making Ranald the human god of magic, a fully reclaimed Karak Eight Peaks is probably the best place to conduct the ritual. It has what is going to be the most important holy site of Ranald and the largest stable population ship of Ranald worshipers. We are already in a position to begin to influence them and spread the idea that Ranald is associated with magic. The massive amount of trade that will be coming through soon will allow us to slowly spread the idea to the rest of the Empire. That would help make the ritual possible because Gods in Warhammer are made from the collective unconscious of their worshipers. Karak Eight Peaks is one of the largest concentrations of waystones in the Old world making any potential grand ritual easier to conduct and stabilize it if someone tries to disrupt it. We would assign each of the Karak's peaks a wind of magic for the ritual. Ideally we would create an area in each peak where a single wind gathers strongly as the symbolism is important for such a grand ritual.

Of course the whole plan does have three major problems. The first one being that we would have to convince all eight colleges of magic to help. That would require us to be a least the Matriarch of the Grey College but most likely need us to be the Supreme Matriarch if we wanted to guarantee cooperation. The next major problem is that the second the forces of Chaos gain any knowledge of the ritual they will send everything they have to destroy or corrupt it. The third problem is obviously convincing the dwarves to let a massive magic ritual happen in their newly reclaimed Karak. Thankfully solving that, even if it would cost all of our dwarf favor and then some, would help with the second problem as no one can defend like a dwarf.

This is en interesting thought, if very speculative on the ritual front. One note though, the forces of Chaos will not sent everythign they have to stop us, they are conceptually incapable of uniting to that degree. If they weren't the world would already be dead.
 
Mathilde as a character may have something against Sigmar.

As a player, I see no reason to particularly encourage that when we get to make decisions about how hard to push that dislike. Mathilde is a dummy sometimes; we just have to work around her issues.
 
My friends! My comrades! My countrymen! There's a difference between not institutionalizing Sigmar, which basically everyone but the Empire does and makes perfect sense, and marginalizing Sigmarites, which...pushes several of my buttons, as I cannot help but compare it and liken it to what the German government did to the Hebrews between 1936 and 1945.
 
Meanwhile, in grand master quest, everyone is panicking. The Grey Wizard is STILL ON TOP OF THEM. They decided to base themselves in a new town far outside the empire, and not only is the Grey wizard their NEW MAYOR, she's buddies with the local ruler, who the voters chose partially because the elector counts had just failed him. The people who voted to stay in the empire are in full I-Told-You-So mode about how there is no escape, the QM is being accused of railroading, and a small group of voters suggesting that maybe she wasn't here for them are getting called delusional waifu-ists.
And then Mathilde sneaks up on Ruprecht one day, perhaps in his chambers, appearing out of the darkness like a goddamn wraith
And the 'I told you so' crowd is gearing up to get their day in the sun
And she leans into Ruprecht real close
And she whispers, 'Fuck Sigmar, amirite'
And the waifu-ists are like 'I knew it, I knew it all along!'
 
My friends! My comrades! My countrymen! There's a difference between not institutionalizing Sigmar, which basically everyone but the Empire does and makes perfect sense, and marginalizing Sigmarites, which...pushes several of my buttons, as I cannot help but compare it and liken it to what the German government did to the Hebrews between 1936 and 1945.

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That... really doesn't seem comparable. Mathilde's disdain isn't for Sigmarites, it's for Sigmar, the actual extant god, who she feels is unworthy of worship.

Hell, Van Hal was a Sigmarite. She's not gonna treat people who believe in Sigmar as second class citizens, she's gonna encourage faith in other (more worthy) gods.
 
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That... really doesn't seem comparable. Mathilde's disdain isn't for Sigmarites, it's for Sigmar, the actual extant god, who she feels is unworthy of worship.

Hell, Van Hal was a Sigmarite. She's not gonna treat people who believe in Sigmar as second class citizens, she's gonna encourage faith in other (more worthy) gods.
Yes, hence my pleading to keep our hate to Sigmar, and not let it slip into hating his worshippers.
 
But it does mean that she'll be shitting on any arguments that her actions as mayor fit being a leader and face for the Altdorf based, Empire aligned Grey College.
Based on that logic, Empire should have declared exterminatus on Middenland long time ago.

You are overestimating the importance of cult of Sigmar. There are many places in the empire (mainly the northern Empire) where he is not really worshipped. Our town being one of such places is easily explainable by about 20000 ulricans (including about 2000 Ulrican templars and clergy. Hell, they run as a theocracy and their ruler is a high priest of Ulric!) being the majority of local human population. Our undumgi (a fraction - perhaps half - of 5400 surviving mercs) are a drop in the bucket, as far as can be seen from the empire we are living in a little Nordland with the religious composition being exactly as expected in such a place.
 
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While I prefer writing papers myself, I will say that the Undumgi option has the potential to get some college favors simply by helping them set up a spy network and safehouse in the area. Consistently moving information about traders, Greenskins, and Skaven in the area to the Grey Order will allow the Grey Order to better learn about possible threats in advance and give them the ability to warn the relevant parties.

And, to be frank, the Grey Order would love the opportunity to expand a spy network all the way to Karak-Eight-Peaks. Especially if we do the heavy lifting for them.


Actually, do you think the grey order might send someone to act as the more focused agent for grey college assets and plans, to keep Mathilde from having divided loyalties? The dwarves are allies, but not internal to empire of Sigmar, so there is the incentive to maintain some seperation. Plus they know Mathilde is going to be busy.

Basically I'd love it if we got a 1-action per turn council of our own, with intrigue (grey wizard) martial (Wulfhart) stewardship (whoever we appoint as mayor and also Titus) learning (probably Johann or Max?) and probably a watchman rep; covering piety ourselves while hiding it behind having Wulfhart have the role de jour, and diplomacy which would be covered at the dwarf council meetings. I'd imagine we'd be appointed 'surfacer relations' for Belegar and deal with everything not dwarf and not actively at war with us.

Which would leave us a bunch of time to do building and research projects with our other actions, depending on how the action economey goes. @BoneyM anything you are thinking about how you want to run mechanics as Mathilde moves up in the world would be appreciated!
 
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This is en interesting thought, if very speculative on the ritual front. One note though, the forces of Chaos will not sent everythign they have to stop us, they are conceptually incapable of uniting to that degree. If they weren't the world would already be dead.
When I said Chaos would send "everything" I meant it in that Chaos, Skaven and Greenskins would probably be either directed by their gods to sabotage the ritual or be drawn to attack what would a massive gathering of magical power.
 
Not if we don't put ourselves in that position.
The Wizard can marginalize Sigmar in her spy network and the church of Sigmar wouldn't much care even if they heard. If the Mayor does it they will hear and they will care.

That seems highly questionable. We're a Grey Magister - on paper, we're not supposed to get involved with religion at all. And the major faith here is Ulric, which neatly explains the lack of organized Sigmar worship - hell, the Grand Master may end up offering us favours to keep the Cult of Sigmar out, not realizing we'd do it for free.
 
Based on that logic, Empire should have declared exterminatus on Middenland long time ago.

You are overestimating the importance of cult of Sigmar. There are many places in the empire (mainly the northern Empire) where he is not really worshipped. Our town being one of such places is easily explainable by about 20000 ulricans (including about 2000 Ulrican templars and clergy. Hell, they run as a theocracy and their ruler is a high priest of Ulric!) being the majority of local human population. Our undumgi (a fraction - perhaps half - of 5400 surviving mercs) are a drop in the bucket, as far as can be seen from the empire we are living in a little Nordland with the religious composition being exactly as expected in such a place.
Nobody is talking exterminatus here. We are talking it costing political goodwill among Imperial institutions when we have ambitions to advance in one of them. The Ulrican dominance in the northern provinces absolutely does cost them political goodwill in the Sigmaite dominated south.
 
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