To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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Chaos Blade
Procrastinating Writer
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- Buenos Aires, Argentina
[X][OFF] BV Investigation and Asset Building
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- Canada
[X][OFF] Plan sunrise
I think war to the knife is the right play here.
I feel like leaving the Rangers sitting around because we don't want to escalate yet is a mistake. This is going to get worse before it gets better, but the more Disruption we can apply to Harmony early on, the less terrible things will happen to us from their own operations. There's certainly a balance we'll want to strike between taking out key targets, and hacking them to gain actionable intel... but so long as we have the assets that can hack do hacking, while we have the assets that can blow things up do that, we'll have a better time than if we delay and wait to get hurt. The current operational plan doesn't actually give Harmony tangible Assets that are acting against us, but that doesn't mean that we can't hinder their capabilities in other ways. As a reminder:
I think war to the knife is the right play here.
I feel like leaving the Rangers sitting around because we don't want to escalate yet is a mistake. This is going to get worse before it gets better, but the more Disruption we can apply to Harmony early on, the less terrible things will happen to us from their own operations. There's certainly a balance we'll want to strike between taking out key targets, and hacking them to gain actionable intel... but so long as we have the assets that can hack do hacking, while we have the assets that can blow things up do that, we'll have a better time than if we delay and wait to get hurt. The current operational plan doesn't actually give Harmony tangible Assets that are acting against us, but that doesn't mean that we can't hinder their capabilities in other ways. As a reminder:
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- Australia
Himmelhand
Giant Sinkhole 2020
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- Midwestern US
Bring on TBG Latinum Edition!
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That's a sentiment I'm sure everyone here can appreciate.
My god, Patricia is an Evil Grand Vizier! Now I really want her to stick around.
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- Sydney, Australia
I think when it comes to the use of the YanRos team and the 20pp up-front cost to use them is that we have been explicitly told that Disruption can be traded for positive effects. So the question becomes is using Task Group Waterfall to Destroy a Known Singer Hub on Narravonn (Gammon's moon) in return for 4 Disruption going to pay for itself?
It's a tricky question, particularly when we don't know what the Disruption/PP exchange rate looks like (yet).
It's a tricky question, particularly when we don't know what the Disruption/PP exchange rate looks like (yet).
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- Ohio
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[X][OFF] Plan sunrise
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- Washington DC
If we want to go for the throat via that Singer node, gonna have to push my plan over Sunrise's, or for Sunrise to edit his plan. Sending Sunglass (investigation 2, SophInt 5, Infil 5) to the (investigation 1, SophInt 1) mission and Wave (Investigate 4, Infil 3, SophInt 5) on the (SophInt 2, Infil 2) mission makes no sense. At a minimum, they should swap.
I would also argue against the supply ship raid. The QMs specifically note that it is a risky escalation, and I'd note that it is a proper casus belli for a hot war, which is rather unhelpful here.
I would also argue against the supply ship raid. The QMs specifically note that it is a risky escalation, and I'd note that it is a proper casus belli for a hot war, which is rather unhelpful here.
I think it's unlikely that there will be no consequences to even a successful raid on that Singer node. Remember, we're trying to do diplomacy with the Rithe as well. It's what we voted for! When they ask why we sent a strike team to blow up one of their data centers, we just going to shrug our shoulders?
There will be appropriate Team Waterfall targets, I'm sure. But I resist the notion that they must do something and because this is something, it's what they must do.
There will be appropriate Team Waterfall targets, I'm sure. But I resist the notion that they must do something and because this is something, it's what they must do.
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- Canada
Disruption can buy PP outright, sure. I think that's probably going to be the least valuable use of it, and would argue that using that Disruption to stop the Harmony from having the chance to inflict worse losses on us is probably the better play. I'm inclined to suspect that the Disruption / PP ratio is the least valuable aspect of Disruption spending... but sure, it's a thing we could theoretically do.
That said, this is a sensible suggestion.
When they ask why we sent a strike team to blow up one of their data centers, we'll advise that said data center was home to Malevolent Artificial Intelligences that were Mind-Controlling the Licori People, which is the sort of thing that legitimately scares the shit out of them. If we can prove that Hermony Singers were there (and are dead now), they'll probably send us flowers.
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- Illinois
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[X][OFF] BV Investigation and Asset Building
I like the ideas behind this plan. The more we know about where the singers operate, the more we can hurt them, and hurt them in a very serious way. Let's save up our PP and our BOOM teams until we have a list of high-disruption targets, and maybe get enough assets for a simultaneous strike.
I like the ideas behind this plan. The more we know about where the singers operate, the more we can hurt them, and hurt them in a very serious way. Let's save up our PP and our BOOM teams until we have a list of high-disruption targets, and maybe get enough assets for a simultaneous strike.
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- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
Following this pattern, 6 successes would be 22, a result that some of our Task Groups can reach. (Though I doubt there will be any targets with difficulty 6.) Task Group Season's Computer 14 could even roll 25 or 26 for 7 successes. With a score like that, you could even Hack the Gibson.
Don't forget, a roll that's one or two under the score results in a Marginal Success.
[X][OFF] BV Investigation and Asset Building
The most important thing right now is to set things up for future missions. That means building up assets and finding more targets to hit. If we just go for blowing up targets right now, we'll have a much harder time finding important targets in the future. Plus, some quick math says that sending the Rangers to destroy the hub has a 58.4% chance of failure, since they need 3 successes (13) on the Escape roll but only have Escape 5. They need to roll 8 or higher, which is way too risky for a turn one play. (Technically could also roll snake eyes on Disruption, too.)
Regarding Chen and her ambitions.
Commander Starfleet isn't high enough - guess she wants to be President?
However, from deleted posts the HoH know she is an Augment, and the original omakes made clear the Romulans also know. The chances of her serving out 5 years, let alone a full decade likes she wants, without this secret being spilled by opposing state actors is very low, and the Humans are incredibly prejudiced on this topic.
I wish her well, but I very much doubt her ambitions will be filled, and is more likely she will be forced to retire in disgrace.
Commander Starfleet isn't high enough - guess she wants to be President?
However, from deleted posts the HoH know she is an Augment, and the original omakes made clear the Romulans also know. The chances of her serving out 5 years, let alone a full decade likes she wants, without this secret being spilled by opposing state actors is very low, and the Humans are incredibly prejudiced on this topic.
I wish her well, but I very much doubt her ambitions will be filled, and is more likely she will be forced to retire in disgrace.
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That she knows about it and has deliberately hid it while cultivating this creepy augment superiority complex is also pretty worrying.
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- Mid-Atlantic
[X][OFF] BV Investigation and Asset Building
I knew I liked this plan when I found myself specifically predicting "well I'd like to do a certain future mission when we can..." only for Briefvoice to have exactly replicated my reasoning in the post. About the only way I might disagree with @Briefvoice is that I might have sent Task Group Wave (I think it was) against the Felis-Harmony passenger line instead of the supply ship, but that arguably has lower payoff and becomes more important later as our detailed information on the Harmony infiltration of the Felis becomes less current.
I knew I liked this plan when I found myself specifically predicting "well I'd like to do a certain future mission when we can..." only for Briefvoice to have exactly replicated my reasoning in the post. About the only way I might disagree with @Briefvoice is that I might have sent Task Group Wave (I think it was) against the Felis-Harmony passenger line instead of the supply ship, but that arguably has lower payoff and becomes more important later as our detailed information on the Harmony infiltration of the Felis becomes less current.
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I'll note our current president is not an Earthling. Several member states are noted for various forms of augmentation, cybernetic and otherwise. The fact that a subset of the Federation's citizens are knee-jerk reactionaries on the topic of sophont augmentation is regrettable, but Earth and her daughter colonies might discover themselves facing serious pushback from the rest of the UFP if they kick up a fuss about Chen's heritage.
I can only begin to imagine how a battle for augment rights might interact with the ongoing parallel struggle for the rights of computer-based intelligences. It would be fascinating to watch unfold.