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I can't be the vote! I'm a catbunny. I vote for people to make contracts with me and become magical girls. Sabrina already made a contract to become a magical girl. ...waaaaait. We're Sabrina. So if...
NO WAIT, I got this. I know exactly what to do!

[X] "Kyouko Sakura, your wish has been granted! You have overcome entropy! Now you must become a magical girl, and fight alongside Mami and Homura and Sayaka and me to defeat witches and save the world!"
 
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[×] rkyeun
Adhoc vote count started by Filraen on Jun 26, 2018 at 4:05 PM, finished with 139828 posts and 19 votes.
  • [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
    -[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
    --[X] Offer her a simple way out: You're friends, you're not gonna hold this over her head.
    --[X] If she insists, you might ask her to help keep Mitakihara clear of witches and familiars for a few days? Don't rush into making deals.
    [X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
    -[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Confess you might not have realized the ramifications of your actions.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down, and explain?
    -[X] Try to talk things out, make sense of things in both of your heads.
    --[X] Mika might have felt we were demanding payment for the Clear Seed, and gone beyond what we thought she even could do.
    --[X] This was unexpected. You just saw a chance to help, and tried to do the right thing.
    --[X] You're friends. You're not gonna hold this over her head. If she saw a chance to help Yuma, or anyone in a similar fashion, would she not?
    --[X] If you can't live with yourself otherwise though, I have two ideas but am very open to counterproposals.
    ---[X]If you think things with Mami are salvageable, you could try rebuilding bridges with her. Learning how Kyubey was exploiting her... it affected her a lot. More people in her social circle might help her internalize she isn't on the edge of being alone.
    ---[x]For another idea, you could compile a list of witch locations in Mitakihara for later hunting by us so we don't need to spend time searching for a while.
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
    -[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she can magically swap places with her clones.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [X] "Kyouko Sakura, your wish has been granted! You have reversed entropy. Now you must become a magical girl, and fight alongside Mami and Homura and Sayaka and me to defeat witches and save the world! ...and play DDR with Mami. She misses you. And sad Mamis make me sad."
    [X] If Kyouko were in a position to do what we did for... Not Mami, for Yuma... Wouldn't she?
    -[X] Besides, it's legally her property.
    -[X] If she really wants to owe us, though, she's welcome to try to force us to accept it.
    [X] Onmar
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Confess you might not have realized the ramifications of your actions.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down, and explain?
    -[X] Try to talk things out, make sense of things in both of your heads.
    --[X] Mika might have felt we were demanding payment for the Clear Seed, and gone beyond what we thought she even could do.
    --[X] This was unexpected. You just saw a chance to help, and tried to do the right thing.
    --[X] You're friends. You're not gonna hold this over her head. If she saw a chance to help Yuma, or anyone in a similar fashion, would she not?
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
    -[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she can magically swap places with her clones.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [x] Redshirt-kun
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down, fully explain? Conversation details about Mika?
    -[X] If Kyouko were in a position to do what we did for... Not Mami, for Yuma... Wouldn't she?
    -[X] If she really wants to owe us, though, she's welcome to try to force us to accept it.
    -[X] Confess you might not have realized the ramifications of your actions.
    -[X] If forced, the compensation will be "spend time with Mami."
    [X] A quick Google for availability of Western-style mental health specialists in the Mitakihara area, particularly LGBTQ+ friendly ones; take (physical) notes.
    -[X] IRC after, as time permits
    --[X] Observe. Be reserved.
    --[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; Namedrop Nadia.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Would she prefer us accompanying her, or go to training on her own?
    -[X] Can she magically swap places with her clones?
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
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rkyeun said:
I don't know if you can vote for me if I haven't actually made a vote. Does someone wanna phrase what I wrote in a less jokey manner, and I'll vote for it? Or do you actually think the way I wrote it should be the vote?
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I'm starting to get a little exasperated with Koko's Tsun, and I really wanna skip over to that part where she finally goes Dere.
I realize that it doesn't work that way IRL, but the thing is we're not some shady narcodeale, whose each word she needs to verify for possible caveats and hidden clauses, we are a person who cares for her and, more importantly, for her worldview at least, are able to help her and not suffer consequences of dying horribly. So hey, we can be friends, can't we?
As long as she plays nice with Mami.
 
Raiseth said:
I'm starting to get a little exasperated with Koko's Tsun, and I really wanna skip over to that part where she finally goes Dere.
I realize that it doesn't work that way IRL, but the thing is we're not some shady narcodeale, whose each word she needs to verify for possible caveats and hidden clauses, we are a person who cares for her and, more importantly, for her worldview at least, are able to help her and not suffer consequences of dying horribly. So hey, we can be friends, can't we?
As long as she plays nice with Mami.
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Filraen said:
Maybe better use of our time would be later when we are back at Mami's apartment? Grief Clone and use both laptop (Mami has it now, right?) and PC to dual wield IRC and browse. Sabrina can hold multiple conversations at the same time so I think just multuple IRC/internet search won't be too taxing for her.
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rkyeun said:
I can't be the vote! I'm a catbunny. I vote for people to make contracts with me and become magical girls. Sabrina already made a contract to become a magical girl. ...waaaaait. We're Sabrina. So if...
NO WAIT, I got this. I know exactly what to do!

[X] "Kyouko Sakura, your wish has been granted! You have overcome entropy! Now you must become a magical girl, and fight alongside Mami and Homura and Sayaka and me to defeat witches and save the world!"
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If all of you feel that comms should wait, that opens an issue!

There are 40 (or more) unused words in the vote as I crafted it by that thinking. What will you do with those 40 words?

Certainly, don't be idle! Sabrina needs you to keep the initiative.
Use your vote. Fully.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Can someone help convince me that the hunting offer I tentatively offer Kyouko isn't terrible and dumb? Because I feel like it might be and need reassurance it isn't.
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... Kyouko is so Tsundere for reasons that she's very likely to bite at anyone trying to help her. BUT this is framed as payment, albeit payment available due Sabrina being HAX. So she might take it, though her history with Mami might influence her as well.

50/50 odds.

random aside: I suddenly want to see Kyouko as a Shrine Maiden.

Sabrina: ... does this make you a heretic?
Kyouko: OK Stabbing time
 
Redshirt Army said:
Can someone help convince me that the hunting offer I tentatively offer Kyouko isn't terrible and dumb? Because I feel like it might be and need reassurance it isn't.
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Unless we are koko's psychiatrist, its probably the best we can hope she is willing to do to pay off the "debt". Mami reconcilation is too early and anything else would be too unSabrina. We want to help, do getting rid of witches fits both of our and her motives. Only thing might be iffy is where does she patrol, kas has too few witches and mit is close to mami.
 
Redshirt Army said:
Can someone help convince me that the hunting offer I tentatively offer Kyouko isn't terrible and dumb? Because I feel like it might be and need reassurance it isn't.
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Sorry, but I honestly can't say I like it.

From our own perspective, yeah, we're getting her help to deal with a hazard, but the picture I get from Kyouko is that she sees things in terms of territory.

Taken that way, letting her into our territory, to hunt, is taking what she'd consider a gift and framing it as her doing us a favor. Given her not wanting to be seen as a charity case? I don't think she'll look kindly on it.

EDIT: Really, I'd suggest something myself, but I can't think of any good ideas. Making up with Mami, fighting WPN, and hunting all have their own issues.

I'm honestly considering just saying that we don't know what to ask of her, precisely because the things we can think of all have their problems.
 
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I actually had some reservations about it as well. Mitakihara isn't Sabrina's territory. It's Mami's territory. We're the wrong person to offer that, given the history between the two. Kyoko would need to hear such an offer from Mami, and we're not there yet.
 
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[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
-[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
--[X] Offer her a simple way out: You're friends, you're not gonna hold this over her head.
--[X] If she insists, ask if Sayaka can copy Yuma's power as your favor.

[X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.

[X] IRC
-[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
-[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).

[X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.

[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
-[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.

[X] Mami.
-[X] Be surprised!

Hmm. I think this should work better.
 
The Phoenixian said:
Taken that way, letting her into our territory, to hunt, is taking what she'd consider a gift and framing it as her doing us a favor. Given her not wanting to be seen as a charity case? I don't think she'll look kindly on it.
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It's a favour for us if we get the Seeds, though.

Not sure how many, but we'll probably need a number of Seeds. If nothing else, so we can have Clear Seedsd on hand.
 
Redshirt Army said:
[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
-[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
--[X] Offer her a simple way out: You're friends, you're not gonna hold this over her head.
--[X] If she insists, ask if Sayaka can copy Yuma's power as your favor.

[X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.

[X] IRC
-[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
-[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).

[X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.

[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
-[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.

[X] Mami.
-[X] Be surprised!

Hmm. I think this should work better.
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She will complain because we both know this would be cheap as hell. Yuma will probably let Sayaka copy if she asks, for free, even.

You know, there's probably some favours we could ask for that would benefit both of us, us because we could Kyouko to help us with meguca saving things, and Kyouko because repaying the favour might help her self worth.

She is, after all, a teenager.

We could frame it in ways, too... say, we won't demand she repay us, but sometimes we get in trouble and might ask for help, as friends. Or say we really need help cutting down the Witch population and getting Grief Seeds to use to help meguca, so maybe she could help us there, as a friend. Maybe we're gonna need experienced meguca like her to look after some newbies after meguca flood Mitakihara, so if she could do us a solid, you know, as friends?

:p

Of course, I still advocate not rushing to make deals, and asking Kyouko to think about it.

I guess something else to consider is, well, actually exchange favours. It might not advance our shipping of Kyouko and Sayaka, I mean, the reconciliating of Kyouko and Mami as quickly, but it might be easier on Kyouko.
 
Redshirt Army said:
[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
-[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
--[X] Offer her a simple way out: You're friends, you're not gonna hold this over her head.
--[X] If she insists, ask if Sayaka can copy Yuma's power as your favor.

[X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.

[X] IRC
-[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
-[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).

[X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.

[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
-[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.

[X] Mami.
-[X] Be surprised!

Hmm. I think this should work better.
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Okay, I'm with Onmur here in that that's... a pretty milquetoast thing to ask. To the point that past history shows an excellent chance we could get it by just asking nice. I don't think Kyouko's going to see it as a fair payment for saving her childhood home.

[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
-[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
--[X] Offer her a simple way out: You're friends, you're don't want to hold this over her head.
--[X] If she insists, you'll think on it, but you're honestly not sure what you'd ask of her. Or rather, you have ideas, but they're all terrible.

[X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.

[X] IRC
-[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
-[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).

[X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.

[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
-[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.

[X] Mami.
-[X] Be surprised!
 
The Phoenixian said:
--[X] If she insists, you'll think on it, but you're honestly not sure what you'd ask of her. Or rather, you have ideas, but they're all terrible.
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---[Q] Date Sayaka so she can get over Kwyjibo.
---[Q] Come over for dinner and try to make things up with Mami... TODAY!
---[Q] Become the High Priestess of our mom's church. And we mean the church dedicated to our mom, not that our mom owns the church. The church is owed by our mom. Our other mom.
 
[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
-[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
--[X] Offer an out: You're friends, you're don't want to hold this over her head. You'd be happy with her paying it forward.
--[X] If she insists, you'll think on it - all your immediate ideas are terrible.

[X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.

[X] IRC
-[X] Lurk, learn appropriate etiquette. RTFM.
-[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).

[X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.

[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
-[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.

[X] Mami.
-[X] Be surprised!
 
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Now that I think of it, the Grief Clone method could also work using the library computers, with the clone pretending being Sabrina's twin. Worst case, it still works as clone practice.

[X] Kyouko.
-[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
-[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
--[X] Offer an out: You're friends, you're don't want to hold this over her head. You'd be happy with her paying it forward.
--[X] If she insists, you don't have any ideas right now, but you'll promise to think on something.

[X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.

[X] IRC/Internet search
-[X] If several devices available (library computers, etc) make a Grief Clone and use the "twins" to use two at a time
-[X] IRC: Lurk, learn appropriate etiquette. RTFM.
-[X] IRC: Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
-[X] Time and mental concentration allowing, make a search the Internet for availability of Western-style mental health specialists in the Mitakihara area, particularly LGBTQ+ friendly ones; take (physical) notes.

[X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.

[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
-[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.

[X] Mami.
-[X] Be surprised!


Kyouko's indebtment: "all ideas are terrible" vs "no idea"? I don't want to give Kyouko a cue to ask about the "terrible" ideas.

Now that I think of it, do we even know if where the library is or if we can just use the computer there just like that? (without a second ID, for example)
Adhoc vote count started by Filraen on Jun 27, 2018 at 1:42 PM, finished with 139893 posts and 24 votes.
  • [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
    -[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
    --[X] Offer an out: You're friends, you're don't want to hold this over her head. You'd be happy with her paying it forward.
    --[X] If she insists, you'll think on it - all your immediate ideas are terrible.
    [X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Lurk, learn appropriate etiquette. RTFM.
    -[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
    -[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
    --[X] Offer an out: You're friends, you're don't want to hold this over her head. You'd be happy with her paying it forward.
    --[X] If she insists, you don't have any ideas right now, but you'll promise to think on something.
    [X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.
    [X] IRC/Internet search
    -[X] IRC: Lurk, learn appropriate etiquette. RTFM.
    -[X] IRC: Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    -[X] Time allowing, make a search the Internet for availability of Western-style mental health specialists in the Mitakihara area, particularly LGBTQ+ friendly ones; take (physical) notes.
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to ferry her, or to go to training on her own. You're still going for cleansing.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [X] "Kyouko Sakura, your wish has been granted! You have overcome entropy! Now you must become a magical girl, and fight alongside Mami and Homura and Sayaka and me to defeat witches and save the world!"
    [X] If Kyouko were in a position to do what we did for... Not Mami, for Yuma... Wouldn't she?
    -[X] Besides, it's legally her property.
    -[X] If she really wants to owe us, though, she's welcome to try to force us to accept it.
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Confess you might not have realized the ramifications of your actions.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down, and explain?
    -[X] Try to talk things out, make sense of things in both of your heads.
    --[X] Mika might have felt we were demanding payment for the Clear Seed, and gone beyond what we thought she even could do.
    --[X] This was unexpected. You just saw a chance to help, and tried to do the right thing.
    --[X] You're friends. You're not gonna hold this over her head. If she saw a chance to help Yuma, or anyone in a similar fashion, would she not?
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
    -[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she can magically swap places with her clones.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Confess you might not have realized the ramifications of your actions.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down, and explain?
    -[X] Try to talk things out, make sense of things in both of your heads.
    --[X] Mika might have felt we were demanding payment for the Clear Seed, and gone beyond what we thought she even could do.
    --[X] This was unexpected. You just saw a chance to help, and tried to do the right thing.
    --[X] You're friends. You're not gonna hold this over her head. If she saw a chance to help Yuma, or anyone in a similar fashion, would she not?
    --[X] If you can't live with yourself otherwise though, I have two ideas but am very open to counterproposals.
    ---[X]If you think things with Mami are salvageable, you could try rebuilding bridges with her. Learning how Kyubey was exploiting her... it affected her a lot. More people in her social circle might help her internalize she isn't on the edge of being alone.
    ---[x]For another idea, you could compile a list of witch locations in Mitakihara for later hunting by us so we don't need to spend time searching for a while.
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
    -[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she can magically swap places with her clones.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [x] Redshirt-kun
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down, fully explain? Conversation details about Mika?
    -[X] If Kyouko were in a position to do what we did for... Not Mami, for Yuma... Wouldn't she?
    -[X] If she really wants to owe us, though, she's welcome to try to force us to accept it.
    -[X] Confess you might not have realized the ramifications of your actions.
    -[X] If forced, the compensation will be "spend time with Mami."
    [X] A quick Google for availability of Western-style mental health specialists in the Mitakihara area, particularly LGBTQ+ friendly ones; take (physical) notes.
    -[X] IRC after, as time permits
    --[X] Observe. Be reserved.
    --[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; Namedrop Nadia.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Would she prefer us accompanying her, or go to training on her own?
    -[X] Can she magically swap places with her clones?
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [X] Kyouko.
    -[X] Ask her to slow down and explain. You just asked Nakano to talk if she thought it'd help. What happened?
    -[X] Respect Kyouko's feelings if she feels indebted.
    --[X] Offer her a simple way out: You're friends, you're don't want to hold this over her head.
    --[X] If she insists, you'll think on it, but you're honestly not sure what you'd ask of her. Or rather, you have ideas, but they're all terrible.
    [X] Cut to voting if Mika Nakano needs to be immediately contacted.
    [X] IRC
    -[X] Observe. Try to not step on anyone's toes.
    -[X] Introduce yourself; show curiosity; explain how you found the channel (Nadia).
    [X] Telepathy Nadia, ask for a physical description of Riona.
    [X] Sayaka.
    -[X] Reconfirm Riona's appearance if necessary.
    -[X] Ask if she'd prefer us to accompany her, or to go to training on her own.
    [X] Mami.
    -[X] Be surprised!
    [x] Someday, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a service for me. But until that day, accept this justice as a gift.
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