- Pronouns
- She/Her
Actually, correction: "I wish I could fuck a really big rock that's on fire!"
Puella Magi Adfligo Systema
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mCooperative
meanderingCephalopod
- Location
- Back in Mitakihara after like 1000 years.
I mean, there's at least one simple idea. Wishmaker's a local kid with decent potential, and sometime during the mid-2000's Mt. St. Helens activity, she gets scared of, you know, the possibility of having everything around her covered in pyroclastic flow and whatnot. Because it was kinda terrifying even from like, a whole state away, when I was small. And the mountain's always been part of the background, always been part of the horizon, always been part of home, so she doesn't get it into her head to wish away the volcano, or kill it, or send it dormant for a thousand years or something. But also, panicking. She tries to be a dab hand at clever wording, and stumbles through something like, "We've always tried to take care of the mountain, and the forest, and the state parks and stuff. And, people live here, and I don't want anyone to die. Please- I wish the mountain would take care of us, too. That we'd be able to live safely, together. I wish the mountain would never have to betray us, would want never to betray us, would never have to erupt and kill anyone, ever again."
To want, one must live, and to be able to betray, one must be friend. In the loosest sense, anyway.
And suddenly, we have a local anthromorphization of Mt. St. Helens. And also an end to the 2006 volcanic activity. (Clearly the later 2008 activity was a result of a meguca fight that required more, ah, firepower than ever before.)
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
It's been a while, but IIRC, it was only witching kirika that terrified Oriko.
Herself becoming a witch? Meh. Both of them dying? Meh. Oriko dying leading inevitably to Kirika witching out? Not enough to move her. Threating to witch Kirika out in front of her, however, that made her fold immediately.
StellarMonarch
Myrmidon
- Location
- Québec
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Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
It was definitely our lowest point.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
I've always assumed that it was "Do you know how much she means to me?" or something similar.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Meanwhile, I assumed it was "Do you know how much being a witch hurts?" or something to that effect. I'd simply thought it was a reference to what we would know about witches from our power, not from Oriko assuming we had been a witch, but that makes a lot of sense, honestly.
She looked at us and assumed Rochelle.
She looked at us and assumed Rochelle.
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Can't use that line with Mami present.
E1ChristO
And this world is full of dreamers. Hug Harder.
- Location
- Walnut or LA, in CA
Speaking of Witches, I have noticed something while looking through the Dramatis Personae:
This might have been brought up already, but the Witch names for Kirika and the Asunaro meguca are different from canon. Now, this could be justified as Firn exercising author fiat (is that the correct term?), but this doesn't quite explain why Firn kept Artz Kochen for Yuuri Asuka. Additionally, I looked up the new Witch names on a whim, and found that for the Kures and the Pleaides Saints, they are all (save for Mirai) from Greco-Roman mythology. Even Umika's Witch name is not exempt - Nelle is the diminutive form of Helen, as in Helen of Troy.
Kanna Hijiri gets a pass since we never see her Witch in Kazumi Magica, but her WItch name is still rather interesting: Nephtys by itself is a genus of marine catworm. Since that is silly, I am going to assume that it is meant to be Nephthys (difference is the h between the t and the y), which is the Greek form of the epithet for the Egyptian goddess of the death experience, contrasting her sister Isis who represents the birth experience.
This might have been brought up already, but the Witch names for Kirika and the Asunaro meguca are different from canon. Now, this could be justified as Firn exercising author fiat (is that the correct term?), but this doesn't quite explain why Firn kept Artz Kochen for Yuuri Asuka. Additionally, I looked up the new Witch names on a whim, and found that for the Kures and the Pleaides Saints, they are all (save for Mirai) from Greco-Roman mythology. Even Umika's Witch name is not exempt - Nelle is the diminutive form of Helen, as in Helen of Troy.
Kanna Hijiri gets a pass since we never see her Witch in Kazumi Magica, but her WItch name is still rather interesting: Nephtys by itself is a genus of marine catworm. Since that is silly, I am going to assume that it is meant to be Nephthys (difference is the h between the t and the y), which is the Greek form of the epithet for the Egyptian goddess of the death experience, contrasting her sister Isis who represents the birth experience.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
Kirika's witch name for PMAS was determined more than 2 years before we got a canon name for it, also.
AND she made a different wish entirely.
AND she made a different wish entirely.
E1ChristO
And this world is full of dreamers. Hug Harder.
- Location
- Walnut or LA, in CA
True, that. For the Pleaides, however, it doesn't seem to add up. I could understand keeping Artz Kochen for ease of identification, but that doesn't really explain why the Witch names for the Pleaides have been changed.
Additionally, the fact that the majority of these Witch names are derived from Greco-Roman origins seems rather significant, since in Greek mythology, Hope was the last item in Pandora's Box.
AuraTwilight
The Sorcerer of Smiles
- Location
- The Silver City
It's because Kazumi Magica is really stupid and Firn changed a lot to make it up to standard. A lot of the Pleiade witches never even got names, iirc, so adjusting them all to tie into the Pleiades theme is pretty appropriate.
This happened while we were ranting about how we maimed someone for crossing us. That would usually be a sign that someone is too dangerous to continue interacting with. Not cutting off all contact with us was very charitable on Hitomi's part.
Higure
Witch of Faith
- Location
- The Golden Land
So? That would have been understandable, if incredibly stupid on her part. Probably wouldn't have been too offended, even. Wanting to get out of this craziness isn't insulting, nor is being afraid of us.
Cutting ties is a more severe action on her part, but the slap was a far greater insult, because it carries a tone of condemnation, rather than fear. Amusingly, it would have probably been better at getting us to be more merciful, if the maiming wasn't already kinda the limit of mercy we could show in that situation.
Also, charitable? Hardly. Actually cutting ties would leave her with no influence on us, probably down at least one friend (Sayaka), and with a lesser chance of our personal help (at least, as far as she can assume), if one of the roaming Meguca warlords invades or the well-intentioned extremists we left alive go rogue again.
Sticking around was extremely beneficial to her, while her leaving would have been only been mildly troublesome for us.
So, no. Charitable it was not. She did exactly as much as she could to "punish" us without losing our protection and support...which, considering her savviness, she might have actually realized. She must have also realized we weren't actually a violent lunatic, or she wouldn't have gone out of her way to piss us off...either that, or she's got suicidal tendencies and...
Oh, right. She probably actually DOES. That's concerning.
No, slapping us was stupid. If we were actually the person we were implying we were, then we might well have just killed her. The smart, if somewhat cowardly, thing to do would be to pretend to accept it and then systematically distance herself from us.
Yes, that is almost certainly why she did it.
It's charitable because she's assuming that, appearances aside, we are actually better than a wild animal and can be convinced to act less vindictively then our statements imply we are, and let us know about her objections and gave us a chance to respond. None of which she was obliged to do.
Also, what on earth makes you think our protection has any value to her? Almost everyone in this setting manages to wander through life without interacting with magic at all. There's no way that protection from that is worth putting up with a violent lunatic.
Higure
Witch of Faith
- Location
- The Golden Land
That's true.
Fair.
She goes to school with us, one of her best friends is a Magical Girl, and Mitakihara is rapidly becoming a point of confluence for Meguca and Meguca-related problems. Besides which, interacting with magic isn't actually that uncommon---Witch victims are far from rare, for one thing, and it's unclear how much editing Kyubey does for the populace at large, in regard to passing Meguca encounters.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
My train of logic as follows. Oriko was slightly suicidal at the time and actually assured she will die no matter what, so:
Becoming a Witch? Hey, maybe it's an appropriate punishment for her.
Both of them dying? Inevitable, therefore not really worth screaming about.
( Oriko dying leading inevitably to Kirika witching out? I'm pretty sure Sabrina didn't actually make that threat. And it would've worked, I think. Oriko was just assuming, probably rightly, that if we kill her, then we kill Kirika. )
Threatening to Witchify Kirika, however? If Oriko knows firsthand how much being a Witch sucks, that will be the most terrifying thing for her to see. She might've actively sought the futures where we were too enraged to leave them alive, but not enough to Witchify them, because really, who would do that?
Oh, right.
Well, whatever. As I said, the whole premise might be wrong. Maybe Anti-Magic Witch Kirika is just that fucking horrible.
Edit: I like mCooperative's vote, but it could stand some polishing? No idea, I'll pop in a little later.
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Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Pretty sure we Oriko becoming a Witch was never on any table.
It's, in fact, the first thing I thought when Firn posted the 'you didn't have to go this far' thing.
We weren't exactly firing on full cylinders there, but did we have to threaten hellish torture on Oriko's only precious person, rather than on Oriko herself?
Don't have much time right now, so throwing vote ideas.
[X] Airi.
-[X] Don't feed her nonsense.
-[X] Explain the transfer and that you'll be working on what you talked about.
-[X] Ask her to let you know once she wants to talk, or when she feels remorse for trying to kill a buliding full of people.
[X] Vote in abeyance.
[X] Explain to Mami: Thoughts about O&K, freedom, and Homura. Ask her if she could try and develop a tracking measure that'd let us (Homura, really) check on O&K anytime.
-[X] Convincing Sayaka sounds more difficult, actually...
[X] Enchantment practice.
-[X] Let Madoka and Hitomi attend if they want.
-[X] Practice ideas:
--[X] Totally Placeholder Because I Can't Remember What We Want To Practice At All.
--[X] Homura: Madoka-dar. (Defensive) time fields?
--[Q] Sayaka: How to go super saiyan with lightning powers.
--[X] Sayaka: Movement based skills? Use clones while practicing?
Vote in abeyance said:
EDIT:
I remember an idea popping up about what Sayaka could do with her clone powers that would've been more beneficial than Witch Hunting, but I can't remember what it was.
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Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
If she could generalize that out to gaydar, she could also track Oriko and Kirika.
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
Homura: *Activates gaydar*
Homura: "I don't feel anything."
Sabrina: "Hmmm... Make an exception for yourself."
Homura: "... Why?"
Sabrina: "Just do it!"
Homura: "Fine- Oh God you are so gay."
Homura: *Points at Sabrina... then at Mami*
Homura: "And you, and you, and you, and... Madoka?"
Mami, Sayaka, Hitomi, Madoka: *Various states of shyness, blushing, keikaku and outrage*
Homura: "How could I not see it before? It's so blatantly obvious..."
Sabrina: "Yeah, you were just hiding their signals with your own."
Homura: "Wait, m-m-me?!"
Sabrina: *Lays hand on Homura's shoulder*
Sabrina: "Remember what I said about my moms? Yeah."
Homura: "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..."
Sabrina: "Yeah, me too."
Sabrina: *Hugs Homura*
blast flame
How far will we go if it means lighting the way?
- Location
- Perth, Australia
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Man once we go public we are going to be the number 1 enemy of right wing paranoids. Gay illuminati with devil magic wants to "befriend" your children.
And when it comes to light that we built scientific prototypes? CONFIRMED: Homosexual witch helped build HAARP mind control array
Always Happening
We could have prevented this.
- Location
- On a train with no brakes
The funniest thing is that this is all technically accurate.