I keep a virtual library of a little more than 2 GBs of free reading material on every subject under the sun, doesn't mean I know jack shit.

Downloading data is trivial. Understanding, digesting, and using it is not a skillset, it's a superset of skillsets.
That's still much easier achievable by an AI because it is only limited by its processing power and speed. And the amount it can store. So what would take months for a human could probably be done in under a day with sufficient computing power by an AI. So that's the real scary thing. Especially since it doesn't seem to be constrained into a body, or at least there was no mention of it.

And its not like its brain works like a human's, that it forgets things and has to re-learn them again. Nope, not necessary.
 
It's an AI. Meaning it should be able to get that very quickly through downloading data and the like.

And even if Erewhon isn't potentially dangerous (doubtful), it's the technology behind AI's that absolutely can't get into NOD's hands. There's a reason we got -PS for choosing that. A single man can only do as much damage as they are given people that work under them. A single AI can do it all by itself. So I think they'll say that to the public side and put shackles and failsafes behind closed doors. Everything else would be pretty naive.
Being an AI does not mean it can become arbitrarily good at something it wasn't designed for.
 
Uh...huh. So like a series of mini-Planned Cities to anchor our Containment Lines?

Oh no, it's far more ambitious than that.

This isn't 'we are building a major forward base in hostile territory to project power and drive back the crystal'. This is full on 'we will plonk down an actual city in a Red Zone and turn its immediate environs into a Blue Zone in a reasonable span of time. Said span of time not exceeding a decade'. I'll admit Litvinov has balls to make that decision, but we're having enough trouble with the damn crystal as is.

I wonder what the effects of Nod successfully killing a GDI department secretary will be, that is no small accomplishment.

GDI is an institution run by people. Has it shaken up the Welfare Department? Yes, yes it has. It will take some time to shake it out. But in the end, all that changed is who signs the paperwork that crosses that desk.
 
Honestly, the Krukov's secret project being just a supership, calms me down a lot.
It will inevitably run into problems that all similar things face: square-cube law, being biggest thing to shoot at, being propaganda target, maintainance demands...
 
GDI is an institution run by people. Has it shaken up the Welfare Department? Yes, yes it has. It will take some time to shake it out. But in the end, all that changed is who signs the paperwork that crosses that desk.

Not really, it also probably changed the political priorities of the Welfare Department because there is another leader in charge. For all we know they might be more focused on hardening our medical sector for the next war on Nod than on educating refugees in the future. As a totally random example.
 
That's still much easier achievable by an AI because it is only limited by its processing power and speed. And the amount it can store. So what would take months for a human could probably be done in under a day with sufficient computing power by an AI. So that's the real scary thing. Especially since it doesn't seem to be constrained into a body, or at least there was no mention of it.

And its not like its brain works like a human's, that it forgets things and has to re-learn them again. Nope, not necessary.
Erewhon is actively unstable and barely capable of keeping thoughts strung together at the best of times right now and loses ideas regularly. It literally cannot do what you are claiming it *might* be able to do per word of QM.
 
Well, the AI is pretty much as described. At most it proves they aren't inherently evil or Nod sympathizers, and doesn't kill interest in trying again in the future. Not in this plan, but still.

I'm also in favor of continuing the Liquid T plant. If nothing else it's cheap compared to fusion, and the experience working with Liquid T on an industrial level is worth it alone.

We did indeed find Eezo on Mars! We'd need a shit load of work to make getting it back to earth happen and I don't think that'll fit in the Plan, but it's something to keep in mind. Also means there might be Alien ruins on Mars, but that's also something we're not in a position to exploit.

The Steel Talons want attention for their projects. I want that too. Lasers and plasma please. Also better hover tech.

That's most of what I got. Probably should read the update again.
 
We did indeed find Eezo on Mars! We'd need a shit load of work to make getting it back to earth happen and I don't think that'll fit in the Plan, but it's something to keep in mind. Also means there might be Alien ruins on Mars, but that's also something we're not in a position to exploit.
Mhh, what about an orbital shipyard over Mars? Or somewhere near the asteroid belt. Would make it a hell of a lot easier on transport costs because you don't have to deal with getting that stuff across the system. Or into a big gravity field again.
 
Honestly, the Krukov's secret project being just a supership, calms me down a lot.
It will inevitably run into problems that all similar things face: square-cube law, being biggest thing to shoot at, being propaganda target, maintainance demands...

It's actually got me a bit more worried. I'm wondering if it's meant to do boarding of the Philly 2 or Enterprise or something, dump a bunch of the nastier critters Nod has been using somewhere it'll be exceptionally difficult to fight them off safely
 
It's actually got me a bit more worried. I'm wondering if it's meant to do boarding of the Philly 2 or Enterprise or something, dump a bunch of the nastier critters Nod has been using somewhere it'll be exceptionally difficult to fight them off safely
I don't believe Nod's antigravity is capable of orbital flight. Asked about this a bit earlier, and it apparently requires a dense atmosphere. Someone speculated it could be a unit called the Basilisk from the game that must not be named.
 
Nothing NOD has demonstrated so far is capable of orbital flight, but they've always had more bullshit secret techs than us and if we're capable of building a bullshit Scrintech spaceship at great expense I wouldn't put it past the Brotherhood either. The g-drives and repulsor plates as we understand them can't work inside Earth's gravity well/outside Earth's atmosphere, but that's only as far as we understand them and Krukov might have cracked the deeper secrets behind fully functional Scrin drives instead of the half-functional knockoffs everyone's been stuck with thus far.
 
Plasma warheads seem the easiest way to massively increase the punch of our air to air missiles to put down something like this monstrosity, NOD hasn't indicated anywhere near the same interest in laser based point defense as GDI, and NOD's warhead tech and guidance systems have traditionally outstripped ours by a fair amount.

Krukov has no reason to believe we are capable of creating an arsenal of blasterbombs to ruin his day. Noone expects to be hit by a MOAB carried by an ATA missile
 
I am going to strongly urge for consistent application of Free Dice into Industry sectors.
Building up the Military for a Karachi sprint isn't going to be great if our economy can be quickly crippled as a reprisal.

With no Free Dice assigned, we are looking at Nuuk 3 completed around Q4 2060. (I'm assuming two more phases of CCF plants, which may not even be enough to maintain a decent Energy surplus due to Military usage.)
If we assign 2 Free Dice per quarter, we can shift that forward to maybe Q2 2060.

It may also be worth investing Free Dice into LCI.
We are going to want the next T-Glass Foundry. BZLIS would be good for boosting Health in time for the expected war. Reykjavik 4 will help with Capitol Goods and reduce some Military project costs.
With no Free Dice, we can expect all of those done around Q4 2060...
So same again: Assign 2 Free Dice per quarter, and we can shift that forward to Q2 2060.
 
I think we can definitely take free dice off of military duty once the sprint prep is done we can get by on 10 dice in mil.
 
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That's still much easier achievable by an AI because it is only limited by its processing power and speed. And the amount it can store. So what would take months for a human could probably be done in under a day with sufficient computing power by an AI. So that's the real scary thing. Especially since it doesn't seem to be constrained into a body, or at least there was no mention of it.
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Right, I'm not going to answer that because every response I come up with is insufferably sarcastic.

And its not like its brain works like a human's, that it forgets things and has to re-learn them again. Nope, not necessary.
Re:forgetting things, unless you have infinite memory you will at some point have to discard data. You have to pick what's worth keeping and what can be safely discarded in the face of the evolving situation.

Notably, what brains don't forget are skills that it has used frequently and recently. Which is not a bad metric for 'need this, keep it'.

So same again: Assign 2 Free Dice per quarter, and we can shift that forward to Q2 2060.
Starting, what, at Q4? Or Q1 2060?
 
I mean I think after the Karachi Sprint we'd be safe dropping back down to 8D/turn in Military, and shifting all our Free Dice to generating slack in HI. 8D/turn is still not slouching at all, especially if we're focusing on our weak spots instead of shiny-chasing.
 
I am going to strongly urge for consistent application of Free Dice into Industry sectors.
Building up the Military for a Karachi sprint isn't going to be great if our economy can be quickly crippled as a reprisal.

With no Free Dice assigned, we are looking at Nuuk 3 completed around Q4 2060. (I'm assuming two more phases of CCF plants, which may not even be enough to maintain a decent Energy surplus due to Military usage.)
If we assign 2 Free Dice per quarter, we can shift that forward to maybe Q2 2060.

It may also be worth investing Free Dice into LCI.
We are going to want the next T-Glass Foundry. BZLIS would be good for boosting Health in time for the expected war. Reykjavik 4 will help with Capitol Goods and reduce some Military project costs.
With no Free Dice, we can expect all of those done around Q4 2060...
So same again: Assign 2 Free Dice per quarter, and we can shift that forward to Q2 2060.
LOL. Was so busy considering the effect of Philly 5's bonus per dice that I forgot about the +1 dice.
Please revise those 'no Free Dice' timelines to Q3 2060 completion.
That is still not good.

Starting, what, at Q4? Or Q1 2060?
That would be starting Q4.
 
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