Negaverse Discussion>Recovery
Yellowclockwork (Verified Nod Industrialist)
So, it has been almost two years since the war and we are still building up our capabilities. Sadly, despite our efforts, GDI has not only recovered faster than expected and is now building up their economy once more thanks to Deep Red Zone Mining and Border Harvesting
Per QM, the Treasury has not only recovered their pre allocation budget on Q2 but they are diverting their massive economy on building the long awaited Columbia and Shala. Also, interestingly, GDI have been diverting a significant amount of their budget into building STU-Alloy Foundries. While none of the metals are anything we do not have, GDI's economy of scale means than they are building them in significant numbers that they are getting a discount of 25% on a massive amount of projects which is natural considering the amount of people that the Treasury promised to get into space.
NidhiMan (Verified Indian Subwarlord)
We also confirmed that they will be coming after Karachi on this plan. We are currently building up our industry and defenses in the Cyan Zone. We will be ready just in case they come.
Now on the good news, we confirmed with @Rattanoia and QM that GDI is focusing their spending on Orbital rather than military. For the last three turns at least no 'Free Dice' is diverted on the military which is good for us but it is still 8 Dice to worry about and with these discount foundries that would mean GDI can deploy more stuff with base dice alone
EzekielsTubs (Verified Skyship Builder)
Okay, so no sign of Kodiak Analogues yet which is a hell of a silver lining.
@Yellowclockwork, can you tell me more about these foundries? 25% is kind of scary discount but per QM it is at least 40 per Die with 3000 progress needed and 12 STU Production cost in total but that does not seem to be worth it considering GDI could be using that amount to build up their Capital Good and power reserves which remains surprisingly low. I mean sure they can get CG and Power Reserves in Tiberium and LCI but it seems less efficient that building just a fusion plant or completing that factory they have in Greenland or Boston.
PucktheMediocreKnight (Verified Noddie Airforce Warlord)
It is with great sorrow to inform every one that GDI has now deployed their Drone ORCAs. Most of it is relegated to the Navy at the moment but some are trickling down to air force squadrons. This is only the first wave but we don't know when they will let the second wave get done. This is going to suck.
FishLord (Verified Sea Trash)
Those fucking drones just keep sinking my raiders! I am losing my stealth boats in raiding and every time I shoot down a damn one they just keep coming and they don't run out.
Yellowclockwork (Verified Nod Industrialist)
@EzekielsTubs To be fair, it is likely because GDI isn't really lacking in Resources at this time. Even with 7 Dice per turn at 40 per Die. They have more than enough to spend their entire dice capacity while maintaining investment on the foundries. GDI's biggest issue is in Dice Capacity and bonuses. With at least a 1200R per turn, GDI can spend like crazy on whatever they want. A few more and they literally have more money to spend until the next allocation period. Besides, Planquesters always went after discount, bonus and income generators and this is no different.
My concern is that we have no way to counter this at this time, we are still recovering from the war. It is likely that GDI will complete all of the Foundries within 2 Years considering how obsessed they are with it and we would need to take account that GDI will need to spend less dice on large projects.
ScorpionsonHigh
@PucktheMediocreKnight Shit that hurts, Orcas are the most numerous drones that GDI has and with it we will have to spend more on air superiority over ground support mission, unless we get more fighters and Varyags, we are in a world of shit on air superiority.
About these Alloy Forges or whatever they are, the more they spend on these foundries, the less they will actually spend on their goddamn military or even their actual industry then more power to them. It will make the easier to blow up along with those fancy stations in orbit.
OceanNoodle (Verified Bintang Captain)
@Fishlord Now you know what we felt at the Regency War dumbass!
@ Yellowclockwork Man that is scary. That means they can divert more die into ships without sacrificing other branches.
EzekielsTubs (Verified Skyship Builder)
On the other hand, this may be a blessing in disguise, with GDI STU production highly inefficient compared to ours, that means all their STU will be with be diverted to the foundries instead of building STU weaponry and vehicles. Hell, this would probably delay their airships.
NidhiMan (Verified Indian Subwarlord)
I doubt it @EzekielsTubs. Discounts in Tiberium projects means they can get more in the future and let's not forget that the Qataris are still alive and GDI can adopt APK if they really need the STU. Also, you are forgetting that they do not need that many STU to be formidable, they have huge amounts of resources and even having no free dice allowed will make their military far more numerous than ours.
By the way, we received the second Varyag that Krukov sent to us. It will go to defending our territory while we are still building our first Tranche, which will take a while but once we got them set up we will be able to build more than you guys up north.
MechZealot (Verified Redeemist)
On the ground it seems that GDI is now equipping whole battalions of Zone Armor. Most of them are being tossed into the Red Zones but there are enough that it is trickling down to many frontal battalions. Not that I am concerned since Redeemer pilot and all but this is quite a headache because GDI will need less men in an area to bring down the pain to our forces.
Also, new railgun rounds showing up, nothing else noteworthy. But looks like GDI has fixed their Mastodons and is now making more, man these new ones are beasts and looks like will eat the old Redeemers for breakfast. We will need to update our models if we intend to compete with them
CymonMother (Verified Tech Echidna)
Working on expanding the Gana production, damn GDI putting soldiers in power armor and making the lighter variants obsolete. Should still be useful on infiltration or whatever, anyhow with high demand for aquatic Gana and Afancs getting bigger and tougher means I have been expanding our cloning facilities.
TibSage (Verified Tiberium Fanatic)
The abominable fanatics are ripping the heart of the sacred crystal to fuel their heretical empire! They trespass and rape the sacred land changed by Tiberium to sustain their wicked existence! They must be cast out of the blessed lands where the Sacred Crystal resides!
Furthermore, the infidels have started deployment of new damnable sonic weaponry. Hurting and destroying the crystal while you insipid, faithless fools whine about rebuilding!
Yellowclockwork (Verified Nod Industrialist)
@TibSage For fucks sake that is what we are trying to do at this time. Stop clogging the thread with the same bullshit over and over and let the adults take over.
Also, I am pretty sure that Tiberium can pretty much defend itself from any threat and we are in dire need of some abatement. Leave knocking out GDI to us and stop bitching about protecting Tiberium.
Rattanoia (Verified Sneaky Slitter)
To lighten up our moods regarding discount foundries and being under pressure from GDI economy. One of our assassination rolls managed to get Arya Gulati, with her death GDI lost a 10 Bonus per die roll on their infra which was the second highest bonus count after TIb is now the second lowest after LCI
She is also a major promise holder for Karachi and such the Treasury may no longer feel under pressure on establishing the city and may do Karachi later or perhaps in the next plan,.
CymonMother (Verified Tech Echidna)
Oh thank the Prophet and Shiva. That bitch is fucking gone, gone, gone! Time to break out the Champagne and party!!!!
NidhiMan (Verified Indian Subwarlord)
That's good news that we desperately need. Especially since GDI will need to divert more Die on infrastructure projects in the future. On the other hand, that means they will double down on the Foundries to get that entire sweet discounted projects.
Yellowclockwork (Verified Nod Industrialist)
Huh, that is a relief. I doubt GDI has issues with housing anymore but Logistics and Planned Cities will be a nightmare to them since they will need to spend more Die and Resources on Infrastructure projects like Chicago or those Suborbital Runways. Even if they focus their attention on Space and industry and put no dice in the military, that it is still less logistics and fortifications in the future.
MechZealot (Verified Redeemist)
Um, hooray, I guess? I mean, don't get me wrong any loss on die bonus on the treasury is good but to be honestly I don't think it benefits us much. I mean sure, with Chicago needing more dice and more railways but overall I don't think that will help us much.
Rattanoia (Verified Sneaky Slitter)
@MechZealot You do realize that those Fortress Towns and Planned Cities you keep bitching about are built from Infra dice? With less Dice Bonus, GDI will need to spend more Free Dice on Infra projects if they want to stay fortified. Even if none goes to the military, that means they will still need to spend less to industry or tiberium. You know, the thing that fuels their military to go after us.
@NidhiMan It is also likely that they will gear up for those new EVA systems we noticed that Orbital is using. We confirmed with QM that it uses a lot of CG but it and combined with that Kudzu Tea crap that gave 1 bonus to dice bonus means that they can return almost half of their original bonus.
PucktheMediocreKnight (Verified Noddie Airforce Warlord)
@Yellowclockwork I kinda doubt that GDI will actually delay Karachi. In fact I am sure they will likely push on it just to spite us. Remember Takeda? We cost GDI a single military Dice and they retaliated by dumping a shitload of Mil Dice for an entire plan.
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