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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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I want to get more schooling done as well, but the Services department is where most of our Consumer Goods projects are, and we're getting past where we can sit on those without consequence. It'll be hard to do both, so which do we do next turn?
 
If we do not want to use Services dice for consumer goods, I suggest we do Luxury Aquaponic Bays and toy plants. People keep complaining about the bland food so we could grow some strawberries and peppers for them. We already invested in toy plants and might as well finish them although it will anger the Hawks and Free Market parties.

Yellow Zone Aquaponic bays don't provide consumer goods but they do increase the variety of foods in the GDI Yellow Zones.
 
I feel like we've got a lot of different things to work on at the moment, but only the lack of chips and the need for replacement military hardware seem to be critical.
So I think it might be a good time to just spread the dice around into lots of different areas.
Heavily focussed dice is good for rushing multi-stage project, but it isn't resource efficient when you overcomplete single stage projects.
 
Derpmind said:
Unless we get new options to help them restock, we don't have many non-development options. Mostly Zone Suits, TBH, and we'll probably want to start up the other Apollo factory as well. Both of which will need the microchips from Boston, sure, but we'll have that completed next turn.
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Military deployment options are Zone Suit and Apollo factories, and Wolverines Mk3 (and we also have to finish the Orbital Drop Regiment development and deployment for the Space obligation.)
 
HousePet said:
I feel like we've got a lot of different things to work on at the moment, but only the lack of chips and the need for replacement military hardware seem to be critical.
So I think it might be a good time to just spread the dice around into lots of different areas.
Heavily focussed dice is good for rushing multi-stage project, but it isn't resource efficient when you overcomplete single stage projects.
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Robotics plant, we are still doing a lot of hand labor in our mil factories which is reducing production speed and boston 3 gives us the chips we need to make use of all the suits we make.
 
Void Stalker said:
Robotics plant, we are still doing a lot of hand labor in our mil factories which is reducing production speed and boston 3 gives us the chips we need to make use of all the suits we make.
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Yep, pair that with the Battery plants. That should get some new hardware rolling off the production lines.

Other things I'd be looking to start on are:
Yellow Zone Housing: Although it might be better to start with the more expensive Fortress Towns so we don't piss off the Hawk voters.
Yellow Zone Aquaponics Bays: While not a lot of Food, it is cheap, quick and close to where it is needed.
Bamboo Paper Works: We don't have the computers for all the administration and schooling. But there should be a lot we can keep moving with fresh paper.
Technical School Program: Eventual skills shortage needs dealing with.
Reopen the Publishing Houses: Let's get some culture happening that doesn't require people to have a computer.
Advanced Myomer Works: Might be a bit early, but those "opportunities across many military and economic spheres" could be good.
 
HousePet said:
We've only built Fungal Farms and Blue Zone Aquaponics. Since you can't grow food safely in yellow zones, I expect the 'inefficiencies in distribution' are because most of the food is grown in blue zones, and has to be transported to yellow zones.
So the blue zoners might have food options, but the yellow zoners probably just have mushroom bars.
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In the narrative of this most recent post we have a low-income single mother in a Blue Zone complaining about a lack of food choices and availability.

Void Stalker said:
I say Publishing houses next turn than back to schools than craft shops, swap back and forth
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Publishing Houses is likely to help indirectly with education, too, because the ability to print (or create online resources) to serve as textbooks and instructional materials really helps with education.
 
Publishing houses is mostly for fiction. You pretty much write your textbooks in house. And those are pretty modern.
At the same time, yes, food diversity and supply is problematic. Because you did enough to fix the strategic level problem, but despite this being a recurring thing in the chats, did not bother doing more of the projects to help supply the people with a more diverse diet. People are getting fed enough. It is not particularly good, but it is enough.

Edit: Remember that this is a setting where you are telling the apocalypse not today. = or even + or ++ is not "enough" let alone plenty. It is "sufficient" It means that your numbers are telling you that people are getting their 2k kcal a day, not whether they like the 2k that they get.
 
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I am imagining what sauces and spices that are available to people is going for an absolute mint (money not the herb) anything absolutely anything to shake up the flavour profile of the foods that one is eating day in and day out that;s nothing but the same thing.
 
Ithillid said:
Publishing houses is mostly for fiction. You pretty much write your textbooks in house.
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Yeah, but from experience, diversity of content and lots of people thinking about what to create for the schools helps. So does having more topical news content and fiction coming out.

Sure, our school system is very centralized, but at the local level individual teachers are still tailoring lesson plans and curricula.

At the same time, yes, food diversity and supply is problematic. Because you did enough to fix the strategic level problem, but despite this being a recurring thing in the chats, did not bother doing more of the projects to help supply the people with a more diverse diet. People are getting fed enough. It is not particularly good, but it is enough.

Edit: Remember that this is a setting where you are telling the apocalypse not today. = or even + or ++ is not "enough" let alone plenty. It is "sufficient" It means that your numbers are telling you that people are getting their 2k kcal a day, not whether they like the 2k that they get.
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I would like to reflect on this that it means that food in the -'s is really bad because it means literal malnutrition, not just "the food isn't good or I'm not happy with it."
 
Can't imagine people get a lot of meat in their diet other than fish and other seafood. What with the small amount of non-tiberium infested land.
Every farm dedicated to growing livestock feed is one that's not growing food for humans. Maybe chickens, but probably not cows.

Probably won't get an adequate meat supply unless we factory farm or start growing synthetic meat. If people will eat fungus bars they'll eat synthetic meat.
 
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Basically none. Some chickens but that is about it. And those are mostly for the eggs, and fed from foodwaste. And you won't be getting really significant meat production unless and until you start doing orbital farming. Because any kind of grazing farmstock is going to get Tib poisoning, that is kind of problematic for feeding people.
 
Ithillid said:
Basically none. Some chickens but that is about it. And those are mostly for the eggs, and fed from foodwaste. And you won't be getting really significant meat production unless and until you start doing orbital farming. Because any kind of grazing farmstock is going to get Tib poisoning, that is kind of problematic for feeding people.
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Now I'm just imagining giant rotating cylinders in space where the insides are just fields of grass and trees for herds of wandering cows to munch on.
 
Ithillid said:
At the same time, yes, food diversity and supply is problematic. Because you did enough to fix the strategic level problem, but despite this being a recurring thing in the chats, did not bother doing more of the projects to help supply the people with a more diverse diet. People are getting fed enough. It is not particularly good, but it is enough.
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Has it really sunk how close things were and pretty much still are to total societal collapse or are we keeping it from the public?
 
SuperHeavy said:
Has it really sunk how close things were and pretty much still are to total societal collapse or are we keeping it from the public?
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Mostly people are at a point of crisis exhaustion. The world has been running right on the edge of the cliff for thirty years. Even most of your political class don't remember a time when the world was not actively ending. So yes, people are very well aware that you are on the brink.
 
I mean, you can raise cattle in stalls on hydroponically grown feed.

It's just that when you're struggling to keep enough hydroponic farms running to support the population even on a vegetarian diet, you probably won't try.
 
Simon_Jester said:
I mean, you can raise cattle in stalls on hydroponically grown feed.

It's just that when you're struggling to keep enough hydroponic farms running to support the population even on a vegetarian diet, you probably won't try.
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Well yes. And there is a difference between a capitalist operation making the premium of luxury food products, and a government run operation to build a universal food supply. One can get away with things that the other cannot.
That likely existed before the war. A private growth operation, enclosed environment, tip to tail processing producing exclusive, high quality meat and meat products. Of course, with the war, those operations went away, because people are more important that cattle.
 
It seems like it would make more sense to do vat grown meat then anything resembling conventional cattle farming. The vats would be cheaper and more compact.
 
Why would you even go for cattle though, if you want protein insects are by far the best response as they are very calorie efficient, provide vital nutrients, and can be factory farmed in a variety of sizes enabling flexibility.

The only thing against it in modern society is western cultural squeamish, however when your facing starvation as the GDI have for a long time you easily get over that and eat far less pleasant and appetising things.
 
Neptune said:
Why would you even go for cattle though, if you want protein insects are by far the best response as they are very calorie efficient, provide vital nutrients, and can be factory farmed in a variety of sizes enabling flexibility.
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The reason the prewar companies went for cattle was that it was a status thing. You could and can get a premium for real meat, even a cut that is traditionally low quality can go for more than a nice cut in the modern day. The biggest reason that you are not really going for insects is that you have fish, and don't really need the extra protein. If you ended up in a place where you needed insects, either as a feed base or for something else, you would start seeing options for insects, but right now you are not in a position where that is particularly called for.
 
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