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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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Rakuhn said:
IIRC, the GD-3 is a resource and indicator light project, but is fairly sizable in progress to roll it out.

So if we are limited more by dice than resources/indicators, it probably should be put on the backburner. If we are limited more by resources/indicators than dice it is a decent priority.
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Given that we have an average of over 15 R/die to work with, and probably converging on 20 R/die... I'd say we're more dice-limited. The GD-3 rollout, much like the ferro-aluminum armor rollout, sounds like the kind of thing that's fun to do in the first year of a Plan when you have eight Military dice and don't want to waste any, but can't spare 160 R to activate them all on expensive projects.

Sailor_Skarro said:
46 is apparently mini power cells, which is yay because now we can get some excellent infantry-portable power density but boo because 1. STUs 2. non-scalable.
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Hm.

Steel Talons are gonna squee; tiny fusion reactors lend more versimilitude to their spectacularly successful, world-famous BattleTech cosplay activities.

(Also, there are so few Talons mechs that a production run of STU-consuming fusion engines isn't as much of a burden)

Hmmmmm.

Another place we might see the micro-fusion reactors is on G-drive spaceships. Those are already STU-expensive constructions, after all, and efficient, reliable, compact power sources would be useful there.

bigking321 said:
Hmm...

That could be really useful but not at the moment. Maybe when everyone gets laser weapons.

Still. More energy generation is absolutely a win.

Speaking of which, we have these things called tarberries...
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Tarberries are currently a solution in search of a problem. Much like spider cotton, they're something you do if you specifically need to, and not if you don't, and while we have a fair amount of flexibility in how we use Agriculture dice, we DO have Plan commitments to meet in that category that don't justify us simply ignoring actual Food/Consumer Goods production (which Agriculture is good at).
 
Cursix said:
Hopefully this makes energy weapons and shielding more viable.
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Energy weapons, yes. Shielding, not all that much - I believe the shield generators are large enough that microfusion's current inability to scale up won't make it all that useful for that at the moment. We're not sure what the size cutoff is yet, they may well be useful for vehicle-scale energy weapons to reduce load on the main power plant, but it's unlikely that they will be useful for powering tanks on their own for quite a while.

As for getting more Resource income: Vein Mines.
 
lol The comments about lack of scalability of microfusion are hilarious.
We have big fusion already. Small scale is the direction we want.
This is likely to mean that next gen vehicles have effectively infinite range.
I expect we'll Bergen rolling to be able to capitalise on this properly though.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Steel Talons are gonna squee; tiny fusion reactors lend more versimilitude to their spectacularly successful, world-famous BattleTech cosplay activities.

(Also, there are so few Talons mechs that a production run of STU-consuming fusion engines isn't as much of a burden)

Hmmmmm.

Another place we might see the micro-fusion reactors is on G-drive spaceships. Those are already STU-expensive constructions, after all, and efficient, reliable, compact power sources would be useful there.
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Too small for those kinds of applications, think in terms of Fallouts fusion cores. They're something that will be very difficult to scale up, not from a theoretical standpoint but an engineering one and packing lots of them together to power a ship, vehicle or mech is going to be far too expensive and relatively inefficient. It's probably one of those things where it'll be more cost-effective to issue lots of single units than to slap bundles of the things into vehicles.

HousePet said:
lol The comments about lack of scalability of microfusion are hilarious.
We have big fusion already. Small scale is the direction we want.
This is likely to mean that next gen vehicles have effectively infinite range.
I expect we'll Bergen rolling to be able to capitalise on this properly though.
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I mean, we're saying it doesn't scale well because we've been told it won't scale well. A lot of questions on scaleability were asked and we were told:

"Induced instability as you try and go from a few cubic centimeters of reaction volume, to a few hundred basically."

It will probably help us to get vehicle scale plants mind you but so will Bergen and better shields since those gate Gen-2 fusion plants.
 
Will rebuilding the Panama Canal be a viable (and more importantly, useful) project? I imagine there isn't any remaining infrastructure though, so it'd have to be done from scratch.
 
The Panama Canal, like the Suez, is a Red Zone glacier. Is it possible to get through it, maybe. The Marv Hubs for RZ 6 and 7 have been completed, as has the Tib Inhibitor for RZ 6, the RZ 7 one has not been completed. The main point to the Panama Canal would be to connect BZ 2 and 11, which would reduce the logistical load. Similarly with the Suez. However problems with both are the seas they are connected to. The Mediterranean especially is surrounded by Red Zones and that means Ion Storms everywhere in the Med. The same is true to a lesser extend for the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico. They are viable projects, its just they have their own risks.
 
There is also that in the Caribbean and the Mediterranean the opinion of Nod on GDI commercial shipping being there is 'no there is not in the next five seconds'. And they can pull it off. Plenty of ground bases to fly naval strike missions from.
 
I'm beginning to wonder should we see about making a concerted effort to clean the Hawaiian islands. They would make a great naval base plus we could see about restoring a small slice of paradise (a small PR win).
 
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Voidseer said:
I'm beginning to wonder should we see about making a concerted effort to clean the Hawaiian islands. They would make a great naval base plus we could see about restoring a small slice of paradise (a small PR win).
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I actually thought about that after the Yellow Zone relabeling, but our primary way of directing abatement efforts, MARV fleets, doesn't actually have a option for Hawaii. Most likely due to its small size making it not worth the effort.
The only possible way I can think of is by investing in the Navy, in order to better protect harvesting convoys to and from the islands.
 
Sailor_Skarro said:
We might get a Honolulu Planned City after Karachi, IDK.
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More likely after Chicago, future phases of which are intended to turn the area around it Blue and act as a project to develop means to do the same elsewhere. I think we should focus some Tib dice on it next turn, considering it supports Steel Vanguard as well, and might fall under attack from Gideon (and would knock out almost all of our processing goal and a good chunk of our abatement goal).
 
Sailor_Skarro said:
We might get a Honolulu Planned City after Karachi, IDK.
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Speaking of Karachi now that the Nod Dog pile might be done do you all think we should get to work on that? After all it is not only a plan goal but also a commitment to one of our talents Arya Gulati. Of which I do not want to find out what happens if we fail on that, the congress might forgive us for not making our Karachi deadline in the event of war but I'm not so sure if Arya Gulati will.

Ithillid said:
[] Arya Gulati
The daughter of Indian refugees who made it into then-GDI controlled Nepal after the First Tiberian War, Arya is a well regarded civil engineer who has made a name for herself for saving failing projects and for clashing with the politicians and bureaucrats sponsoring them, some of whom are quite influential. Putting her firm of largely Himalayan residents on retainer as Treasury consultants will produce significant results in short order, but will come with significant contractual obligations. (Political Enemies: -5 PS) (Very Skilled: +10 to Infrastructure Dice) (Must complete 4 phases of Karachi Planned City by end of plan)
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Voidseer said:
Speaking of Karachi now that the Nod Dog pile might be done do you all think we should get to work on that? After all it is not only a plan goal but also a commitment to one of our talents Arya Gulati. Of which I do not want to find out what happens if we fail on that, the congress might forgive us for not making our Karachi deadline in the event of war but I'm not so sure if Arya Gulati will.
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At the latest we should be doing Karachi 2061, I think, so we shouldn't have a huge issue with it.
 
Microfusion? Nice, ships will love it for additional powerplants, vehicles will love it for new fusion engines that allow them to power their own energy weapons internally, and if they can get micro enough, we can have further improved Zone armor.
 
Ace of Scarabs said:
Microfusion? Nice, ships will love it for additional powerplants, vehicles will love it for new fusion engines that allow them to power their own energy weapons internally, and if they can get micro enough, we can have further improved Zone armor.
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Actually, it's more micro than you're thinking. Zone Armor is the upper limit for them.
Still very cool, but it's for infantry to Zone Armor scale use.
 
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Ace of Scarabs said:
Microfusion? Nice, ships will love it for additional powerplants, vehicles will love it for new fusion engines that allow them to power their own energy weapons internally, and if they can get micro enough, we can have further improved Zone armor.
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More on the order of Zone Armour power and energy weapons. More on the odds of a Fallout Fusion Core and upscaling it is going to be a hard engineering problem to beat. You could theoretically bundle them to power a Pitbull or Guardian APC but it would be far too expensive to be worth it and extremely inefficient. It could however see use in powering many of a tanks electrical systems leaving the engine to only handle the weapons and tracks.

This is a good step for building smaller reactors but we need Bergen and better shields to get the Gen-2 fusion plants before we can get fusion engines I think.
 
Sailor_Skarro said:
We might get a Honolulu Planned City after Karachi, IDK.
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More like a Honolulu Planned Small Town.

Voidseer said:
Speaking of Karachi now that the Nod Dog pile might be done do you all think we should get to work on that? After all it is not only a plan goal but also a commitment to one of our talents Arya Gulati. Of which I do not want to find out what happens if we fail on that, the congress might forgive us for not making our Karachi deadline in the event of war but I'm not so sure if Arya Gulati will.
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Realistically, construction cannot begin on Karachi until 2060Q4 because 2060Q3 is the height of the monsoon season in the region. Let's at least wait until 2060Q3 Results pop, so we know whether the Nod warfare situation is under control or not. If it isn't, we wait a few more turns until 2061Q1-2 to unleash the project, by which time we will hopefully almost certainly have the military situation under control.
 
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