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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan: GDI Edition

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Without the reroll we'd have needed 10+ dice in Boston to save Erewhon over the next few turns.

The additional stability means that Boston is still needed to further extend its life, but we have much more time to to complete it.
 
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Rakuhn said:
Without the reroll we'd have needed 10+ dice in Boston to save Erewhon over the next few turns.

The additional stability means that Boston is still needed to further extend its life, but we have much more time to to complete it.
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Any word on whether we can develop isolinear chips as an alternative now that they're available? Because...

Shard of Victory said:
About North Boston: do we have WoG that if we don't do it ASAP Erewhon WILL die?
Because sacrificing immense efficiency advantage on maybies seems wasteful.
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To be fair, the efficiency disadvantage of North Boston isn't that big. Either way we get a really big slug of Capital Goods after about 2000-2500 Progress worth of construction work, enough to basically ensure Plan completion. And North Boston would at least have the virtue of costing less R/die, which gives us more freedom of action to do other things like Bergen assuming a comparable resource investment in both cases.

But... given the spoiler that we're gonna get access to isolinear chips next turn, it might be more efficient to just develop those and build entirely separate plants for them, since those will be far superior to anything coming out of North Boston in the immediate future (except, of course, a hypothetical isolinear chip line in North Boston.

Because sure, that development and prototyping project will cost dice, but unless it costs 500 Progress, and arguably even if it does, it's still worth it.

In fact...


This plan pushes isolinear chip research and production as an alternative to North Boston. Which means we can work on Nuuk instead of North Boston, relax a bit on pouring all our Free dice into Heavy Industry and save some for the military, and otherwise be a bit more flexible.

However, to make room for any Services spending, I had to cut the die spent on Bergen. We'll want the extra +Food from a second round of fertilizer plants soon enough, I think.

Please note that all budgeting here is rough. I'm being pessimistic about deployment costs for drones, airborne lasers, and carrier shipyards, and about the development cost of isolinear chips.

I could scrape cost savings out of Agriculture by dialing back the effort to push on and finish the freeze-drying plants, or abandon the Phase 3 railroad expansions in favor of apartments (which are likely to be MUCH needed soon).

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[] Draft Plan No AI Left Behind (Isolinear Edition)

910+(Service Budget)/945 R
7/7 Free dice

Infrastructure 6/6 Dice 110 R
-[] Yellow Zone Fortress Towns (Phase 4+5) 232/550 (4 Dice, 80 R) (72% chance of Phase 5)
-[] Rail Network Construction Campaigns (Phase 3) 159/300 (2 Dice, 30 R) (84% chance; one die would not be enough)

Heavy Industry 5/5 Dice + 5 Free Dice 210 R
-[] Continuous Cycle Fusion Plant (Phase 5) 232/300 (2 Dice, 40 R) (~100% chance, median result 92/300 on Phase 6)
-[] Nuuk Heavy Robotics Foundry (Phase 3) 118/640 (7 Dice, 140 R) (74% chance)
-[] Isolinear Chip Development (1 Die, 30 R) (??% chance)

Light and Chemical Industry 5/5 Dice 95 R
-[] Reykjavik Myomer Macrospinner (Phase 4) 378/640 (4 Dice, 80 R) (81% chance)
-[] Chemical Fertilizer Plants (Phase 2) 94/300 (1 Die, 15 R) (1/2.75 median)

Agriculture 4/4 Dice 60 R
-[] Freeze Dried Food Plants 73/200 (2 Dice, 40 R) (80% chance)
-[] Blue Zone Aquaponics Bays (Phase 2) 3/140 (2 Dice, 20 R) (74% chance)

Tiberium 7/7 Dice 120 R
-[] Yellow Zone Tiberium Harvesting (Phase 7+8) 183/300 (4 Dice, 80 R) (Phase 7, 23% chance of Phase 8)
-[] Railgun Harvester Factory (Dandong) 0/70 (1 Die, 10 R) (~100% chance)
-[] Intensification of Green Zone Harvesting (Stage 5+6) 63/200 (2 Dice, 30 R) (91% chance of Stage 6)
--[] (Appears to give 16% chance of hitting Stage 7, which is contingent on Fortress Towns Phase 5)

Orbital 6/6 Dice 110 R
-[] GDSS Enterprise (Phase 4) 456/765 (5 Dice, 100 R) (96.5% chance, median outcome 114/1535 to Phase 5)
-[] Orbital Cleanup (Stage 9) 41/85 (1 Die, 10 R) (98% chance, 13% chance of Stage 10)

Services X/5 Dice ?? R
-[] Totally Unknown, up to a 35 R budget. May raid this budget for other projects.

Military 8/8 Dice + 2 Free Die 205 R
-[] OSRCT Stations 5/295 (1 Die, 20 R) (1/3.5 median)
-[] Wingman Drone Deployment 0/??? (3 Dice, 60 R) (??% chance)
-[] Lasersnakes On A Plane 0/??? (2 Dice, 40 R) (??% chance)
-[] Bigass Carrier Shipyard 0/??? (3 Dice, 60 R) (??% chance)
-[] Neural Interface System Refits (Talons) 77/105 (1 Die, 25 R) (~100% chance)

Bureaucracy 4/4 Dice
-[] Security Review (Bureaucracy) (3 Dice)
-[] Bureaucracy Pummeling Itself Hilariously (1 DIe)
 
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Calvin said:
I think Heavy Industry is coming up on the "standard" security review threshold, but it'll be difficult to allocate free die.
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If we go the Nuuk route, once we have Nuuk Phase 3 we can relax a little, because we'll have a pretty substantial Capital Goods reserve in hand.

And we can probably slam that out in one turn of intense effort, as per the plan draft I just posted.
 
@Simon_Jester, going Nuuk 3 + Boston 5 route might also be good in mid and long-term. Parliament will likely set a high Cap Goods target for next plan, I'm thinking 40-50 minimum.
With Nuuk at stage 3 we should complete that target without too much trouble.
 
I've just realized the SPACE force was highly successful against Krukov, who shares a name with a character from RA3 (though not Tim Curry, that's Cherdenko).
 
Some Interesting News (TM) from the Discord.

Kane/Or The Indian Warlord Guy/Gal, Super Gana's and Nod's Delta Mutant Techno-Psyker Commando Team all say hi to GDI leadership!

PSY DEFENCE IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS AND GIRLS!!!
 
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Shard of Victory said:
About North Boston: do we have WoG that if we don't do it ASAP Erewhon WILL die?
Because sacrificing immense efficiency advantage on maybies seems wasteful.
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It's no longer a "do it NOW or Erewhon dies in ~1 year" situation after a reroll got him +6 stability instead of -1, but I doubt it will make it through the next plan without some sort of help. If Isolinear chips can do it, awesome. If not, gotta go for Boston.
 
Ok then. Psy defense it is!

I guess that roll was a good one in the long run.

Also, great... baldy is back!

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
 
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Can we wait until the full writeup is done and more importantly posted here before we start chattering about what it might mean. It's just fragments on the Discord server at the moment.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Submarine-launched cruise missiles are the real problem, but cruise missiles overflying the land from the Yellow/Red zones in North America to hit Boston are also possible.

The problem is that extending SADN coverage over North Boston is quite a challenge, because we can't even order the site specifically fortifed- we have to build 'enough' phases of the project to get it, and that means going all the way to Phase 2 or Phase 3.

We could get to SADN Phase 2 this turn if we threw every Military die we had at it, and some Free dice... I don't know if that'd be enough.
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GDI is not stupid.

The first phase of SADN is likely to focus on critical infrastructure like the Boston microchip facilities because it's so vulnerable and critical.

Simon_Jester said:
Yeah.

That's why I'm kind of pissed about Tokyo disappearing, because we have repeatedly discussed building up a few layers of it as a backup... Because it wasn't out of an ideological commitment to not having a backup facility that we did things as we did, as Reykjavik should have demonstrated.
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The main purpose of Tokyo has always been Consumer Goods, we have far, far more efficient ways of securing Capital Goods than Tokyo offered.
 
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