Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Ya know what, im sorry BoneyM, I only just realized that they were mentioned in this latest Threadmark.
But yay! I did math right!
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
You actually just misread him. He clearly said Imperial individuals and/or institutions. You apparently read that as meaning those collectively, thus being a different way of harming the Empire. But he mean individual individuals and/or institutions. As in, there are some people and institutions in the Empire that will suffer as a direct result of the canal facilitating trade along new routes.
Wasn't a reason for the relatively small dividends because the CEO decided to pump most of the revenue into expansion? Given the massive growth of the EIC it is frankly surprising that the dividends are as good as they are.
It's Heidi by the way. Like the little girl living in the Alps with her grandpa.
Sir_Travelsalot
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Yeah, she was just mentioned in the last update as running the Amethyst College ever since Hexensohn bit the dust in Drakenhof.
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Poor guy, I actually liked him... We ever find out what killed him btw? I vaguely remember us getting some vague details.
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If I remember correctly, we rolled low when recruiting from the Amethyst College and got Hexensohn and a couple high rank Magisters, which was confusing. They had their own agenda and went into some sort of crypt without supervision or consulting with Mathilde, then rolled badly in there and the Magisters came out carrying a blank eyed dead Hexensohn who somehow died in there. It happened close to when that light Wizard blew himself up, which caused me to remember the fuck up vividly.
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Yeeah, thats bout what I remember. Ty for the refresher tho.
Wonder if we could ask Elspeth? Probably not, considering it hasn't been relevant for like, IC decade.
Always on the board if we have a moment to ask her little questions tho.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I have a lot of faith in the future growth and economic prosperity of the EIC, regardless of the name.
pucflek
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It was most likely internal matter of Amethyst college, so not something we would be privy to. Elspeth von Draken is also mentioned as a guest of honor in the WAAAGH lecture we have delivered, as one of the biggest names present.
She was also mentioned when we were asking about what would being spymaster in Nuln entail.
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Maaan, I guess im just blind/Didn't compute that it was the same Von Draken.
I'm blind as a Felbat, I'll tell you what
4e would be left for speculation (oh, that's interesting, wonder if Boney will do something with it at some point?) but with the caveat, does things turn quest canon on its head?
Like, I find Sullasara a pretty fun 4e character, (for what little we get of her through her sticky notes) probably because she is a serous case of an well meaning 'intellectual-fool'. But obviously, in this quest she can't be the one that taught a good chunk of the colleges spells.
But if we ever do interact with the high elves in the future, a Sullasara, maybe with the same goals if different spells, could turn up and make sense.
Retroactive Uncle of Mardand and spymaster 'grey guardian' will have to pretzel the quest lore to make sense.
Like, I find Sullasara a pretty fun 4e character, (for what little we get of her through her sticky notes) probably because she is a serous case of an well meaning 'intellectual-fool'. But obviously, in this quest she can't be the one that taught a good chunk of the colleges spells.
But if we ever do interact with the high elves in the future, a Sullasara, maybe with the same goals if different spells, could turn up and make sense.
Retroactive Uncle of Mardand and spymaster 'grey guardian' will have to pretzel the quest lore to make sense.
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- Utrecht
[] Have tea with Elspeth von Draken: your duckling club may be a thing of the past, but there is another, even more exclusive social club you belong to now. Lady Magisters that have befriended dragons.
Later:
[] Your ploy to find out more about Hexensohn's demise is being scrutinised for ulterior motives. Invite Dragomas to your club to refute the allegations of gender bias.
Even later:
[] Dragomas possibly knows of Hexensohn's fate. Bring up the subject with him and Elspeth at your LMBD club.
Plot twist, he's gone deep undercover as the Hochlander to investigate the Empress and where she really came from via her "good friend" Mathlide Weber.
After all, we wouldn't want a promising Grey Wizard under the thumb of a mysterious Empress.
Not again, that is.
(actually trying to remember if we recruited the Hochlander before or after we met Empress Heidi, if it's before this entire thing falls apart. If it's after... it still falls apart because the Hochlander probably isn't spying on us anymore than a normal Grey would.)
You missed a perfect opportunity for a duckling/drake pun here.
Or maybe I'm just obsessed with the idea that the crest of the Duckling Club should be a Drake, only it's ambigous as to whether we mean the dragon or the duck.
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We have managed to coexist on close proximity for a full conversation without trying to murder each other.
That's friendship, yes?
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Von Draken got mentioned back in the chapter where we were attending Roswitas lecture at the witch hunter conference, she was talking to a damsel while being glared at by morrites. There was a scene break there where Mathilde went and "joined the most interesting conversation", but I don't know if we were ever told who she went up and talked to. A conversation between the amethyst matriarch and a damsel might not be one you should bulldoze into, but would be neat if she was on somewhat speaking terms with von Draken.
She also spoke briefly with her in the social where Mathilde toured the colleges and saw what they had done with the attuned rooms. Von Draken assured her that the room had already been useful, but we didn't actually get a scene of them talking together, just a description.
She also spoke briefly with her in the social where Mathilde toured the colleges and saw what they had done with the attuned rooms. Von Draken assured her that the room had already been useful, but we didn't actually get a scene of them talking together, just a description.
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AzureShogun
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So this is where it began... I gotta say, I didn't even realise you were constructing so much of the dwarf lore yourself until much, much, later.
Man, I can't wait to read about K8P again. Absolutely the best dwarf lore I've ever read, though I also have to wonder where Mathilde would be now if Van Hal hadn't had such a long string of rotten luck at the worst time and hadn't died.
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Its a lot more cordial than almost anyone else in the empire has managed.
Arguably it's even more impressive, because she doesn't share a wind with Cython (like Elspeth) and neither is she an Amber wizard. In fact she achieved a non agression pact with a being attuned to the wind opposite hers.
Cython is a member of her book club, and told her about his children.
Deathfang told her tales from his childhood, and his aspirations for the future. He even helped Asarnil cook for her during the expedition
If that isn't is the stuff friendship is made of
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Cordial relationships can occur without friendship. A great example of this is the multiple conversations we had with the Kurgan Shaman.Its a lot more cordial than almost anyone else in the empire has managed.
Arguably it's even more impressive, because she doesn't share a wind with Cython (like Elspeth) and neither is she an Amber wizard. In fact she achieved a non agression pact with a being attuned to the wind opposite hers.
Cython is a member of her book club, and told her about his children.
Deathfang told her tales from his childhood, and his aspirations for the future. He even helped Asarnil cook for her during the expedition
If that isn't is the stuff friendship is made of
The way I see it is that Cython and Deathfang view us like Asarnil views Mathilde, except worse because Dragons are more arrogant than Elves and they are much older and more powerful than him. To them Mathilde is a particulalrly interesting insect, but an insect nonetheless.
Certainly better than most people can say about their relationship with any dragon, but I wouldn't call it a friendship. "Friendly acquaintance" at best.
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The Amber Wizard handler for Salamanders from the Imperial Zoo is trying to get an in with your club arguing that, as fire breathing lizards, they should count. You have two choices.
[] Support the entrance, sure it might reduce the prestige of your club, but on the other hand it would mean that you've donated not only exotic and potentially useful foreign fauna, but exotic and potential useful draconic fauna, which should be worth quite a few extra college favours.
Effects: - LMBD Club prestige, + College Favour
[] Oppose the entrance, maintaining the exclusivity and prestige of the club is more important, and besides, Cython is an ice dragon, you've got to oppose that argument on principle.
Effects: Maintain LMBD Club prestige
We'd have probably started the "necromancy college/taming Stirland arc" that Roswita is doing right now.
It's an interesting thought experiment to consider how it would have gone under Abel's command—he was much more of a military leader than Roswita is, and he had enough goodwill with the Zhufbar to pull them in to assist, but at the same time Mathlide was no match for Alkaline battery (arguably she wasn't a match when she did fight him).
It's likely that we would have sent in witch hunters to clear out the college, and when they failed then send in the wizards, but it might not be a secret by that point and would damage the reputation of the colleges as a whole. Might even result in another political scrap between the Cult of Sigmar and the colleges, which weirdly might have pulled the Ulricians in on our side and opening up the Eonir sideplot. There would also be Lahamians stirring the pot, using their high level agents to turn everyone against us.
It would have been a very different quest, that's for sure.
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One does not have philosophical conversations with insects, nor does one request knowledge from them, listen to their input or give advice.
Cython's relationship with Mathilde is at the very least like the one one has with a weird child.
That one's easy. Just make sure he has no cats to pet.
The roll for Amethyst reinforcments was not revealed at the time but it did result in the MP and 2 battle wizards. It was later revealed, that it was a low roll and they got involved because they did not believe that Van Hals have redeemed themselves and thought Abel going hard on Sylvania was sus. In Sylvania they took control of some of the troops to get to a crypt. Hexensson went in nat 1'd himself and died. Batte Wizards went in got him out and buggered off. Some time after it was revealed that Von Drakken had to take the position.
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How would you accomplish that? Station guards at literally all pet cemeteries?That one's easy. Just make sure he has no cats to pet.
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