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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Most wizards discover they can use magic when they are somewhere between 15-20 years if I remember correctly, so it's likely that the apprentices Eike will study among will be older than her and hopefully more mature. I think the biggest problem she will experience among her peers will be that they treat her like a child, no matter which order she ends up in.

There was a line in a previous chapter about how street urchins occasionally wander into the Grey College when they are young, and then wander out again as journeymen years later, but I don't know if the Grey College has significantly more apprentices from poorer backgrounds than the other colleges, especially considering that the vast majority of people (and thus wizards) are relatively poor.
 
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Also, you know, being the heir to a massive company and prospective apprentice to a well-liked Lady Magister might also be a reason to be less jealous and more attempting to make friends with her. Not that gold diggers are especially good either, but we can probably deal with them easier.
 
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Gavin Prince said:
As far as ensuring Eike gets Lord Magister tuition, it is possible to ensure that she gets it even if she goes outside of the grey. It's 10CF a turn, though. Or, I guess, Mathilde could cash in her Great Deed to get the best possible tutor for her through her entire time at the College of her choice. That's actually something I could see winning a vote.
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For Gold, we could introduce her to Gehenna. No idea how good the chances of that taking are, but there is a chance.
 
Mathilde introducing Eike to her family:

Regimand, my dad
Uncle Algard, the boss
Grandpa Melkoth, no one knows how old he is anymore.

Great-great grandpa Kragg (from the dwarf side), who gives the best presents.

Johann, the brother from another mother.
Gehenna, Johann's awesome mom
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veekie said:
Gehenna is probably not the best fit for someone going corporate
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Based on Johann's reaction, I'm not even sure if she's the best decision for someone not going corporate.

Like I have no idea if he was trying to run out of the tower to get away frm her or say hello. Either way he got knocked the fuck out.
 
The3rdCorinthian said:
Based on Johann's reaction, I'm not even sure if she's the best decision for someone not going corporate.

Like I have no idea if he was trying to run out of the tower to get away frm her or say hello. Either way he got knocked the fuck out.
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He was fully conscious the entire time, the clang was a gilded-on-gilded hug.

BoneyM said:
Johann, Adela, and yourself had been making your way through the Skaven books on engineering for background information on the lighting mechanism when the Wizard chosen to educate you in Gehenna's Golden Hounds had arrived, and your first indication that they're here is Johann leaping out of his chair and hurrying towards the entrance, and then a noise like a gong being struck with a frying pan shatters the studious silence. In walks a woman no taller than you carrying Johann under one arm, wearing a golden robe that looks like it was extremely well-made before someone ripped the arms off and severed everything below the knee. Her bare and muscled limbs are as golden as Johann's, her pale skin, blue eyes, and blonde hair cut very short suggests Nordlander blood, if not Norscan. "Right!" she says, dropping the grinning Johann onto the table with a thud. "I hear there's a bloody weird Grey that wants to learn some juicy secrets."
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BoneyM said:
"Right!" she says, dropping the grinning Johann onto the table with a thud. "I hear there's a bloody weird Grey that wants to learn some juicy secrets."
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...Huh. That reminds me, could Mathilde share her knowledge of Apparitions and where she got it with an apprentice? I can't remember what all the restrictions on that were, and while I certainly wouldn't expect Eike or any other apprentice to go catching Pokémon anytime soon, it might be nice to make sure there's someone who knows that stuff other than us.

Speaking of, we totally need to go apparition hunting soon. I want to impress people with ghost knights!
 
veekie said:
Gehenna is probably not the best fit for someone going corporate
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Gehenna is best. Therefore, she is the best fit for someone going corporate too. If Eike was into battlemagic, she'd be bester, but Gehenna and her Golden Guns will always be best.
(Seriously though, I think she did a really good job with Johan, who is not the easiest, and clearly has a really warm relationship with him)
IronFist said:
Mathilde introducing Eike to her family:

Regimand, my dad
Uncle Algard, the boss
Grandpa Melkoth, no one knows how old he is anymore.

Great-great grandpa Kragg (from the dwarf side), who gives the best presents.

Johann, the brother from another mother.
Gehenna, Johann's awesome mom
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There's also Anton, our Little/Big Bro, and Roswita, our Omegahugger-wishes-stepdaughter.
 
Ericwinter said:
...Okay, I'm a little bit lost. What's with the pouches and what exactly just happened? Is this Mathilde deciding to betray Alkharad?

And if so, I wonder what that means for her. She can't be trying to go good, but... maybe she'll plan to eventually take over Sylvania as a less hostile neighbor? Or something. I could see this version of Mathilde doing the whole "conquer for your own good" thing.
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Rafin said:
I'm not quite sure either. If this was was an AU quest then I wouldn't expect alternate SV to just throw the Black College away in the hopes that the Empire will be just forceful enough to wipe out Alkharad but not her or her interests. Especially if she wants Sylvania for herself eventually.
I assume this is an "Anton critted at Diplo" moment, but I still have a hard time making sense of it.
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TalonofAnathrax said:
@Ganurath, I'm loving your omake idea but I'm still confused as to what is going on. Please clarify or write a sequel before June 2022 :D
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Mathilde had divided loyalties: Alkharad and the people of Teufelheim. Anton's question was the straw that broke the camel's back. She was checking how many power stones she had so she could figure out if she'd survive betraying Alkharad long enough for the Empire to do what it would've done if canon Mathilde hadn't ended the news of the discovery with "and then I took care of it."
 
Ericwinter said:
...Huh. That reminds me, could Mathilde share her knowledge of Apparitions and where she got it with an apprentice? I can't remember what all the restrictions on that were, and while I certainly wouldn't expect Eike or any other apprentice to go catching Pokémon anytime soon, it might be nice to make sure there's someone who knows that stuff other than us.

Speaking of, we totally need to go apparition hunting soon. I want to impress people with ghost knights!
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Mathilde can share any derivative knowledge and techniques she uses the Golds' information to create but not the information itself, the deal was that Mathilde would pretend anything she made was an independent discovery.
 
BurnNote said:
There's also Anton, our Little/Big Bro, and Roswita, our Omegahugger-wishes-stepdaughter.
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Eh, Roswita has kinda grown into more of a little sister by now, especially after being rejected for romance.
Ganurath said:
Mathilde had divided loyalties: Alkharad and the people of Teufelheim. Anton's question was the straw that broke the camel's back. She was checking how many power stones she had so she could figure out if she'd survive betraying Alkharad long enough for the Empire to do what it would've done if canon Mathilde hadn't ended the news of the discovery with "and then I took care of it."
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Ah, okay. Power stones. Hopefully it works and Teufelheim isn't burned to the ground or taken over in the process. I rather like the idea of Mathilde taking over afterwards as the new Ruler or something.
BoneyM said:
Mathilde can share any derivative knowledge and techniques she uses the Golds' information to create but not the information itself, the deal was that Mathilde would pretend anything she made was an independent discovery.
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Ah, okay. I just wasn't sure, with how the similar dwarf paths work, if apprentices had been exempted. Guess it's not an argument to be made here.
 
How awkward would explaining a possible grey variant of Gehenna's be? Binding apparations seem like a hop skip and a jump away from binding demons.
 
Ganurath said:
Mathilde had divided loyalties: Alkharad and the people of Teufelheim. Anton's question was the straw that broke the camel's back. She was checking how many power stones she had so she could figure out if she'd survive betraying Alkharad long enough for the Empire to do what it would've done if canon Mathilde hadn't ended the news of the discovery with "and then I took care of it."
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Huh.Those are power stones?
After the previous mention of Skaven tech reverse-engineering, I'd assumed that those were warpstone tokens or something. What does she need power stones for, and do Dhar power stones even exist?
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Huh.Those are power stones?
After the previous mention of Skaven tech reverse-engineering, I'd assumed that those were warpstone tokens or something. What does she need power stones for, and do Dhar power stones even exist?
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Yes, power, and you mention them by name in your post.

More seriously, I went with Shyish power stones on the belief that using power stones to boost a tong spell like Necromancy requires boosting the tongs, rather than what they manipulate.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Huh.Those are power stones?
After the previous mention of Skaven tech reverse-engineering, I'd assumed that those were warpstone tokens or something. What does she need power stones for, and do Dhar power stones even exist?
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They're stated to glow purple, so I assume it would be Shyish. Which is needed for necromancy, even the non-Liber Mortis version, IIRC.
 
Ganurath said:
Mathilde had divided loyalties: Alkharad and the people of Teufelheim. Anton's question was the straw that broke the camel's back. She was checking how many power stones she had so she could figure out if she'd survive betraying Alkharad long enough for the Empire to do what it would've done if canon Mathilde hadn't ended the news of the discovery with "and then I took care of it."
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Ah. I guess that's what was a bit incongruous to me. Specifically the idea that the Empire "doing what it would have done" doesn't seem like a really scary idea for anyone who grew up as a necromancer and wants what's best for Sylvanian townspeople. Because I'm pretty sure that from that side of the isle hearing about an invading Imperial army sounds a lot like "and then everyone that wasn't pressed, dead or alive, into the army and fell in combat is burned at the stake by fanatic Sigmarites if they had any cordial relation with the old masters at all. The rest then pay all their food in taxes to fuel the living, bread eating armies of the Empire."
 
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The funny thing is, there's a good chance this Mathilde is still a worse Black Mage than canon Mathilde. This Mathilde hasn't gotten to read the ultra super insightful Liber Mortis, or the Belt of Dhar immunity (though she's also missing a decade or so of training time). Canon Matty would definitly beat her out pretty rapidly given some hands-on training.

EDIT: After some thought, Mathilde is about to become an even more terrifying Black Magister. Because she's about to learn all the secrets of the Waystones, from sources that would be completly inaccessible to pretty much anyone else. So now you have the extremely talented mage with great theoretical knowledge of dark magic who can also pull incredible amounts of magic to fuel her undead armies.

Also, seen from the outside, Mathilde has a disconcerting amount of knowledge about and proclivity for demon summoning. Leaving aside the Chaos And You Course she recently took, there's also the fact that she was supposedly haunted, except across years that haunting only showed up to be conveniently trapped (first time it was a bit overeager, but it worked the second time). And then she asked the Golds how they do it.
 
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I suspect most if not all of the Lord Magisters have knowledge, tools and skills that would make them absolutely terrifying Black Magisters. Any Wizard that has the luck, skill and drive to reach such a rank would be an utter nightmare if they went rogue.
 
BurnNote said:
The funny thing is, there's a good chance this Mathilde is still a worse Black Mage than canon Mathilde. This Mathilde hasn't gotten to read the ultra super insightful Liber Mortis, or the Belt of Dhar immunity (though she's also missing a decade or so of training time). Canon Matty would definitly beat her out pretty rapidly given some hands-on training.

EDIT: After some thought, Mathilde is about to become an even more terrifying Black Magister. Because she's about to learn all the secrets of the Waystones, from sources that would be completly inaccessible to pretty much anyone else. So now you have the extremely talented mage with great theoretical knowledge of dark magic who can also pull incredible amounts of magic to fuel her undead armies.

Also, seen from the outside, Mathilde has a disconcerting amount of knowledge about and proclivity for demon summoning. Leaving aside the Chaos And You Course she recently took, there's also the fact that she was supposedly haunted, except across years that haunting only showed up to be conveniently trapped (first time it was a bit overeager, but it worked the second time). And then she asked the Golds how they do it.
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I am now imagining this story, except Mathilde really wants to be a black magister, and has been planning it for years, except she keeps getting reasons why she'd learn more about being a black magister by sticking to her current role. About the only different actions are her looting Alkharad's library down to the bedrock instead of another choice and taking some of the scrolls from the chaos camp.

'Oh, I've really got to start my experiments on practical wielding of dhar tomorrow.'
"Lady Magister, 5 skaven sorcerers are attacking, and they've brought their entire libraries with them."
'Or maybe in a few more weeks.'
 
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