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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Prime 2.0 said:
I prefer "intersectional" over "esoteric" for the library name because the pronunciation is basically the same, but the former actually touches on what the branch uniquely does: research in and via the intersection of multiple disciplines.

And, despite being pronounced basically the same, it'll be easier to refer to here in-thread because we don't have to disabiguate it from weber the person! I for one do not look forward to the headache of a confusing name.
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How is the pronunciation basically the same? Bear and Beer are quite different to my ears.
Derpmind said:
Why can't it be The Sunrise Society? TSS for short?
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That's what we're voting for.
 
[X] (LIBRARY) High-level policy
[X] (LIBRARY NAME) The Library of Karak-Eight-Peaks / Kron-Azril-Ungol / The Archive of the Silvery Depths
[X] (BRANCH NAME) World's Edge Branch of Esoteric Research
[X] (LIBRARY NAME) World's Memory / Karaz Kron
 
[X] (LIBRARY) High-level policy
[X] (LIBRARY NAME) The Library of Karak-Eight-Peaks / Kron-Azril-Ungol / The Archive of the Silvery Depths
[X] (BRANCH NAME) World's Edge Branch of Esoteric Research
[X] (LIBRARY NAME) World's Memory / Karaz Kron
 
Glau said:
I am going to laugh so hard if WEBIR wins and we have to deal the rest of the quest with people assuming her last name is actually Webir, because the attempt to make it not-a-direct-reference backfires in the face of our known punniness.
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I feel like causing this kind of confusion is right in a Grey mage's wheelhouse. It would only strengthen Mathilde's connection to the Grey, sort of like Horstman's speculation about us intentionally seeking out mysteries to butt our heads against.
 
SMDVogrin said:
I feel like causing this kind of confusion is right in a Grey mage's wheelhouse. It would only strengthen Mathilde's connection to the Grey, sort of like Horstman's speculation about us intentionally seeking out mysteries to butt our heads against.
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I don't feel like there's anything mysterious about a clumsy attempt at a naming pun though, since they aren't pronounced or spelled the same.
"Why did Mathilde intentionally misspell an acronym" isn't some deeply confusing question for people to dwell upon.
 
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WEBIR is ambiguous when spoken aloud - it sounds just like "Weber", since you
pronounce "bir" the same way you do in "birthday" or "birch". It also provides ambiguity regarding whether it's an intentional play on "Weber" or not.
 
picklepikkl said:
Just as a datapoint, at least in my variety of English (US Northeastern accent), they are pronounced the same, which might be why I appreciate the not-pun more than some.
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SuperSonicSound said:
They aren't pronounced the same for mine. web-ear vs Web-errr
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In most cases, one pronunciation is as correct as the next. Except in this case where I don't like one of them. So clearly that one must be wrong, and WEBIR is pronounced different therefore bad.

And I can actually back that up! See, Reikspiel is faux!German, and in German the pronunciation is very much different (pretty much how SuperSonicSound described). So to retain realism in our wizard game that's played in English, we must definitely orient ourselve after the German way of speaking.

Joking aside, that is the reason why I don't like that name, because it's a german word mispellt in a way you would not misspell it.
 
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Weirdly, my learning difficulties mean I'm pronouncing "Weber" as "Web-err" and "Webir" as "Weeb-err". I keep mentally shifting the "i" to the first half of the word.
 
Redshirt Army said:
WEBIR is ambiguous when spoken aloud - it sounds just like "Weber", since you
pronounce "bir" the same way you do in "birthday" or "birch". It also provides ambiguity regarding whether it's an intentional play on "Weber" or not.
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But "ber" is pronounced as in "bear" or "bare", not at all like "birthday". Also, seeing how it is a German name, Germans would pronounce "bir" more like "beer".

Mathilde and her organization are from the Empire, not from Albion or Naggaroth.
BurnNote said:
In most cases, one pronunciation is as correct as the next. Except in this case where I don't like one of them. So clearly that one must be wrong, and WEBIR is pronounced different therefore bad.

And I can actually back that up! See, Reikspiel is faux!German, and in German the pronunciation is very much different (pretty much how SuperSonicSound described). So to retain realism in our wizard game that's played in English, we must definitely orient ourselve after the German way of speaking.

Joking aside, that is the reason why I don't like that name, because it's a german word mispellt in a way you would not misspell it.
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Exactly.

Bot eye cen andirstond hauw it mayght meek marr sans een Inglash whear avree vawil cen bi proonancid leyk oni athr, dippandeng un thi reegun ond cyrcoomstens. :p
 
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Rafin said:
Bot eye cen andirstond hauw it mayght meek marr sans een Inglash whear avree vawil cen bi proonancid leyk oni athr, dippandeng un thi reegun ond cyrcoomstens. :p
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[TL:EN] But I can understand how it might make more sense in English where every vowel can be pronounced like any other, depending on the region and circumstance. :p
 
Redshirt Army said:
Huh, pronouncing Weber as "Web-bear" instead of "Web-bir" seems strange to me - is that really the German pronunciation?
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It is not. The german pronunciation is /ˈveːbɐ/ (maybe /ˈveːbər/ if you're really enunciating it), though Webir is significantly different still (I'd transcribe it as /'ve:biɐ/ if I had to guess) . In any case, given that I'm already groaning every time I read Reikspiel!German, I wouldn't count too much on the pronunciation being like Standard German when the grammar is already fucked.
 
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"Intersectional" puts the focus on what we really want to achieve with the branch college far more than "Esoteric" and that's more than enough reason for me.
 
lentil said:
"Intersectional" puts the focus on what we really want to achieve with the branch college far more than "Esoteric" and that's more than enough reason for me.
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I'd be fine with Intersectional if it didn't try the clumsy WEBIR pun because that makes me cringe.
That's why I much prefer "World's Edge Intersectional Research Department" (WEIRD) if we really want to be accurate and still get a pun. Unfortunately, most voters already cast their vote before the idea came up and it's not getting enough traction.
 
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[X] (BRANCH NAME) The Sunrise Society
[X] (BRANCH NAME) World's Edge Intersectional Research Department
[X] (LIBRARY NAME) World's Memory / Karaz Kron
 
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