Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Fayhem
Definitely not an escaped SCP
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I see I'm not the only person thinking about this omake.Mathilde has vine kink
Assuming that our Jade girlfriend would not be fully on board with inviting a sexy forest into our dynamic.
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[X] Kislev
[X] Laurelorn
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Sure. I am not against the idea of changing so we can count accurately for this specific case, just wary of changing the default way to do things in the general case that would invalidate a previously valid pattern.
Now I know these is fantasy but most people actually like to be in monogamous relationships no matter their sexual orientation from my experience in real life.I see I'm not the only person thinking about this omake.
Assuming that our Jade girlfriend would not be fully on board with inviting a sexy forest into our dynamic.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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[X] Laurelorn
I'm shocked that Kislev is even in the running. Not only is it the place that has the least to offer (though it's still quite a bit, it's just substantially less than the Fey Enchantress herself, Runelords and money, or the greatest library for magical anything in the Old World), it's the most insecure place--right on Chaos's doorstep.
I'm shocked that Kislev is even in the running. Not only is it the place that has the least to offer (though it's still quite a bit, it's just substantially less than the Fey Enchantress herself, Runelords and money, or the greatest library for magical anything in the Old World), it's the most insecure place--right on Chaos's doorstep.
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[X] Laurelorn
I'm not confident of promising results within Boris life-time to Boris, since I don't even know if we can build new Waystones within a mortal time horizon. I'd rather have clients that must take the long view, and have much more tempered and informed expectations.
I'm not confident of promising results within Boris life-time to Boris, since I don't even know if we can build new Waystones within a mortal time horizon. I'd rather have clients that must take the long view, and have much more tempered and informed expectations.
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Honestly, I really like the idea of bringing Panoramia with us during the winters to the secret cities of the elves. I think she and the vicerine would actually get on quite well, and with Pan not going to the colleges for further tutoring really due to avoiding politics, I think we could see her getting a lot stronger studying a bit with the elves.
Seriously though. One of these days we have to get the vicerine, pan, Heidi, and Roswita to do something with us as a girl's night. Probably in Altdorf. Maybe we invite Wilhelma too? She really was our first friend in stirland.
Seriously though. One of these days we have to get the vicerine, pan, Heidi, and Roswita to do something with us as a girl's night. Probably in Altdorf. Maybe we invite Wilhelma too? She really was our first friend in stirland.
[X] Carcassonne
hmm, seems Laurelorn is winning which while I'm not mad because once in the life time opportunity to work with elves on a magical project (not counting our yet be seen Nagarynthe visit because were only their to go kill druchi, nothing else although we might develop connections i shouldn't get my hope to high with the Asur) I am sad we won't see Kislev and all it's glory but tis another time i suppose.
Any who, just some speculation for the winning option, knowing the wood elves and their desire to reintegrate themselves into the empire I wouldn't doubt them trying to perhaps use using some way to try and integrate themselves in the empire and perhaps lusciously reward us so with some of their more secretive tomes, knowledge, and secrets perhaps.
One idea I think which would perhaps would be worth a try is to expand the EIC into Laurelorn as though it's forests are surrounded on all sides by Nordland to make trade unsafe, they border forth the sea of claw's which is the domain of few, especially so for Nordland and the rampant piracy increase within the empire's borders.
Perhaps for a price, knowledge or for the elves to be more co operative and give us magic knowledge or help the empire with waystones in the future we can try to expand the EIC into Laurelorn and have them build a port on their sea border to try and see if they could sell whatever wood elf goods they can get their hands on. Of course I may be misjudging what the wood elves could make with Ulthuan but I don't doubt the quality of the wood craft for these elves and could perhaps make a good price selling some of their goods.
Because lets be honest here integration into the empire as a respected polity is going to require more then just one cult who is on the weaker side of things to get things to work. Their isolation is killing them and that's why their trying to integrate themselves into the empire and this might be baseless speculation, who is to say that the trade from Laurelorn over the ocean's could make things safer and could benefit provinces within the empire?
Reikland, Ostland, Kislev, they all are within range of the sea and can recieve trade goods if the wood elves would open up for trade and what more prime motivation for people to say "Stop fucking the elves over" if they are to become sort of like Ulthuan/Marienburg situation in where their goods benefit the empire and thus people would be more willing to try and defend Laurelorn status and borders which Nordland has not only a reputation for being border encroaching within the empire, but also has border claims on Ostland so such a fight can seem plausible.
Of course this is all perhaps baseless speculation as we know very little of what the wood elves make, or manufacture in their forests so what they make might not be all to beneficial to the empire in taxes or weapons or whatever and asking them to open up to trade and make a port city when they have been isolationist for like, thousands of years is uh, questionable but just some thoughts on how to try to use the EIC as a ways to expand Laurelorn as a polity of trade into the empire.
Also their might be some people who question is the EIC would take the risk and I would point you to the following.
If they feel in the long run they and the empire would benefit in relations of Laurelorn as a respected polity and continued trade over Nordlands needless hostilities they will side with Laurelorn and with us possibly giving them such a back door entry to be the first to get their hands on a new trade partner which has no competition through us... well I think they would perhaps bite and see what these wood elves have to offer to trade.
Again, baseless speculation I know as we don't know what the wood elves can make, wood weapons, wood craft, and etc is all up in the air. Neither do we know if the wood elves are willing to go that far to open themselves up to trade and integrate themselves into the empire structure of trade and open up a port considering they've been isolationist for so long but it's fun for me to speculate.
Some might question why we should help Laurelorn in this debacle. I will point out which ever patron we chose we were going to have to deal with local problems. For Boris it's his desire to fuck chaos and use waystones to fuck them even harder, For bretonia [can't spell the province name] it was always the chaos orks, For the dwarves it was dealing with the runesmith drama and potentially Thogrims bullshit if things got heated between him and Belegar.
Here were dealing with the wood elves trying not to go extinct as a side gig for our project and ensuring the waystone tree's which are vital for saving the world don't get fucked and were probably getting involved with this thing and I don't see trying to use the EIC as spy's in Nordland and expand into Laurelorn though a port city as problematic, just trying to please our employer and get more goods/knowledge from them or access to spread such knowledge around
Either way I'll ask boney later if we could take action to getting EIC access to Laurelorn to an extant once we know more about Laurelorn's situation and were close to returning to regular turn order and making plans with actions. If we can both expand the EIC while further integrating Laurelorn into the empire, as well as get benefits from our employer, well I'm willing to do some leg work to get their. Especially so for knowledge.
Might be overestimating what the wood elves can make up for trade but they are elves so they must make many beautiful things which can sell for a pretty penny, it's just getting them to open up which may be a problem.
Any who, just some speculation for the winning option, knowing the wood elves and their desire to reintegrate themselves into the empire I wouldn't doubt them trying to perhaps use using some way to try and integrate themselves in the empire and perhaps lusciously reward us so with some of their more secretive tomes, knowledge, and secrets perhaps.
One idea I think which would perhaps would be worth a try is to expand the EIC into Laurelorn as though it's forests are surrounded on all sides by Nordland to make trade unsafe, they border forth the sea of claw's which is the domain of few, especially so for Nordland and the rampant piracy increase within the empire's borders.
Perhaps for a price, knowledge or for the elves to be more co operative and give us magic knowledge or help the empire with waystones in the future we can try to expand the EIC into Laurelorn and have them build a port on their sea border to try and see if they could sell whatever wood elf goods they can get their hands on. Of course I may be misjudging what the wood elves could make with Ulthuan but I don't doubt the quality of the wood craft for these elves and could perhaps make a good price selling some of their goods.
Because lets be honest here integration into the empire as a respected polity is going to require more then just one cult who is on the weaker side of things to get things to work. Their isolation is killing them and that's why their trying to integrate themselves into the empire and this might be baseless speculation, who is to say that the trade from Laurelorn over the ocean's could make things safer and could benefit provinces within the empire?
Reikland, Ostland, Kislev, they all are within range of the sea and can recieve trade goods if the wood elves would open up for trade and what more prime motivation for people to say "Stop fucking the elves over" if they are to become sort of like Ulthuan/Marienburg situation in where their goods benefit the empire and thus people would be more willing to try and defend Laurelorn status and borders which Nordland has not only a reputation for being border encroaching within the empire, but also has border claims on Ostland so such a fight can seem plausible.
Of course this is all perhaps baseless speculation as we know very little of what the wood elves make, or manufacture in their forests so what they make might not be all to beneficial to the empire in taxes or weapons or whatever and asking them to open up to trade and make a port city when they have been isolationist for like, thousands of years is uh, questionable but just some thoughts on how to try to use the EIC as a ways to expand Laurelorn as a polity of trade into the empire.
Also their might be some people who question is the EIC would take the risk and I would point you to the following.
The EIC are willing to take the risks to cozy up to Elector Counts, perhaps they would take the chance to cozy up to the leadership of the elves to be the first to access their goods if we can get the wood elves to open up trade and integrate themselves further into the empire structure.
If they feel in the long run they and the empire would benefit in relations of Laurelorn as a respected polity and continued trade over Nordlands needless hostilities they will side with Laurelorn and with us possibly giving them such a back door entry to be the first to get their hands on a new trade partner which has no competition through us... well I think they would perhaps bite and see what these wood elves have to offer to trade.
Again, baseless speculation I know as we don't know what the wood elves can make, wood weapons, wood craft, and etc is all up in the air. Neither do we know if the wood elves are willing to go that far to open themselves up to trade and integrate themselves into the empire structure of trade and open up a port considering they've been isolationist for so long but it's fun for me to speculate.
Some might question why we should help Laurelorn in this debacle. I will point out which ever patron we chose we were going to have to deal with local problems. For Boris it's his desire to fuck chaos and use waystones to fuck them even harder, For bretonia [can't spell the province name] it was always the chaos orks, For the dwarves it was dealing with the runesmith drama and potentially Thogrims bullshit if things got heated between him and Belegar.
Here were dealing with the wood elves trying not to go extinct as a side gig for our project and ensuring the waystone tree's which are vital for saving the world don't get fucked and were probably getting involved with this thing and I don't see trying to use the EIC as spy's in Nordland and expand into Laurelorn though a port city as problematic, just trying to please our employer and get more goods/knowledge from them or access to spread such knowledge around
Either way I'll ask boney later if we could take action to getting EIC access to Laurelorn to an extant once we know more about Laurelorn's situation and were close to returning to regular turn order and making plans with actions. If we can both expand the EIC while further integrating Laurelorn into the empire, as well as get benefits from our employer, well I'm willing to do some leg work to get their. Especially so for knowledge.
Might be overestimating what the wood elves can make up for trade but they are elves so they must make many beautiful things which can sell for a pretty penny, it's just getting them to open up which may be a problem.
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Part of the problem with figuring out how elves interact with trade patterns is that elves and dawi trade patterns make no damn sense. Ulthuan supposedly simultaneously finds human craftsmanship incredibly shoddy and wouldn't be caught dead using anything a human makes, while simultaneously making massive amounts of money on trade with everyone else, despite not actually wanting anything from them as per canon.
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I mean, that particular circle isn't that hard to square, and indeed comes up pretty often in real life - even if a country's processed goods are inferior to your own, you can still make a great deal by obtaining raw materials from them.
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For sure, it's ONLY BEEN 5 HEARS WITHOUT ANY DAMN SILK!!!
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This is less of a joke than you might think:
Patrons of the Old World pg. 12-15 said:
They've clearly got some kind of thing going on with spiders.
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Welp, my choice doesn't seem to be happening. Approval voting time.
[x] Carcassonne
[x] Kislev
[x] Carcassonne
[x] Kislev
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Elves are also basically The Best Sailors and thus pretty much have a comparative advantage over literally anyone else when it comes to trade in general. Even if elves didn't want literally any goods from the humans whatsoever it would still be easier for the elves to get rich off just taking goods from araby to marienburg and from marienburg to araby than it is for most humans to get rich off that same route.
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That's 4e, which we're supposed to ignore.
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Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you're going to post an absolutely huge stream of consciousness like this, you'd be better advised to proof-read it and clean it up a bit before posting. A lot of people won't bother reading something that long, and each typo and blatant grammar mistake made when they start skimming further decreases the likelyhood that they'll finish skimming it, much less read the entire thing.
I'm not trying to be mean, insult you, or anything, just giving what I feel is decent advice, and I hope you don't take this in a negative way.
To be fair though, I have a habit of excessively editing my own posts when I fail to notice my own typos, so perhaps my bias is showing.
Edit: on second skim, it actually seems like the majority of your issues are failing to capitalize 'i', which stands out super hard for me for some reason. It's quite odd but I can notice at a glance every standalone 'i'. Maybe that's what bothered me rather than general grammar. Hmm.
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Almost all data on the Eonir is from 4e. We shouldn't take it as gospel truth, but I do expect to see at least elements of it come up through Boney's interpretive lens - like how there are no 40K style soul circuits, but how Tor Linathel still has "jewels that have [metaphorically] captured the souls of artists".