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Okay then, assuming nobody picks up the slack ( and I'm not sure that's the case, now that the Colleges know that there is interest from the Eonir they might try without us), it's still not an option that runs away.

I'd be perfectly fine with doing Waystones-project as an epilogue in case the quest ever finds a non-violent end and we don't choose it before that.
Two things here

First, Boney said repeatedly: choose what you like, what you want to read about. Disregard concerns about "who else could do it" or "most good for the world". This is a work of fiction, we're choosing what we want to read.

Second, if you assume that we shouldn't do Waystones because there's other time-sensitive opportunities, then that's much the same as doing Waystones period, as there will always be other time-sensitive opportunities. Again, per Boney.
 
Two things here

First, Boney said repeatedly: choose what you like, what you want to read about. Disregard concerns about "who else could do it" or "most good for the world". This is a work of fiction, we're choosing what we want to read.

Second, if you assume that we shouldn't do Waystones because there's other time-sensitive opportunities, then that's much the same as doing Waystones period, as there will always be other time-sensitive opportunities. Again, per Boney.
Yes, that is both included in my vote.
I do not vote for Waystones because I want to see other options more.
And I do not want to do them at all while there are time-sensitive other options, which is why I talked about a hypothetical epilogue, not the next job, or the one after that.
 
Those looking at the Waystone Project might see the Markgraf job as something of a stepping stone, a nation sized laboratory for exploratory geomancy where we can trial prototypes without much oversight before we go global later.

Once more jumping in to remind everyone of the Word of Boney that we will not be researching waystones without choosing to research waystones. We have hit the maximum of what we can find out without committing to going after closely held secrets. There is no way to prepare for waystones more effective than choosing to research waystones.


...This is making me sad because I feel like "Pedantic about waystones" is fast becoming my Thread Character Trait instead of "That guy who won't shut up about trains."
 
So do you dislike sigmar? Do you really want to annoy the Grand Thoginist in a way he can't do anything about? Then vote bodyguard and tutor, so that he has to watch helplessly as the next Emperor gets failed by the world's most well known Ranaldite, and he can't do Jack about it because the Ranaldite is a Dwarf.
 
So do you dislike sigmar? Do you really want to annoy the Grand Thoginist in a way he can't do anything about? Then vote bodyguard and tutor, so that he has to watch helplessly as the next Emperor gets failed by the world's most well known Ranaldite, and he can't do Jack about it because the Ranaldite is a Dwarf.
The Grand Theogonist can absolutely do things about it. Even if he buys the whole "Mathilde is a dwarf thing", and there's no guarantee he will, he's not bound to help the Dwarfs are the expense of the Empire. The Cult of Sigmar values the Empire above the Karaz Ankor. By a lot.
 
So do you dislike sigmar? Do you really want to annoy the Grand Thoginist in a way he can't do anything about? Then vote bodyguard and tutor, so that he has to watch helplessly as the next Emperor gets failed by the world's most well known Ranaldite, and he can't do Jack about it because the Ranaldite is a Dwarf.
Vote bodyguard and tutor if you want to save one child from Sigmarism.

Vote Markgraf of Sylvania if you want to save an entire region instead.
 
Since we're doing this...

Do you like dwarves? I mean, do you really like dwarves? I mean, really really like dwarves, if you know what I mean? Like, do you have dreams of Kragg giving Mathilde words of filial affection and Thorgrim unburdening himself about all the shit he's been through and have you written an omake for this quest based entirely around wordplay in Khazalid?

Well, look no further than Loremaster-at-Large! Together, we can climb the highest mountains (that dwarves live in), plumb the deepest depths (that dwarves want to live in), right ancient wrongs (suffered by dwarves), and meet all sorts of interesting people (who are dwarves).

In conclusion: Dwarves.
 
The Grand Theogonist can absolutely do things about it. Even if he buys the whole "Mathilde is a dwarf thing", and there's no guarantee he will, he's not bound to help the Dwarfs are the expense of the Empire. The Cult of Sigmar values the Empire above the Karaz Ankor. By a lot.

We wont be hurting the Empire though. He can justify it thus, I guess, we haven't got the monopoly of mental gymnastics, but still...
 
Do you like dwarves?
WHY WOULDN'T I.
I mean, do you really like dwarves?
I SAID I DID DIDN'T I?
I mean, really really like dwarves, if you know what I mean?
...WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT MANLING.
Like, do you have dreams of Kragg giving Mathilde words of filial affection and Thorgrim unburdening himself about all the shit he's been through and have you written an omake for this quest based entirely around wordplay in Khazalid?

In conclusion: Dwarves.
THE MANLINGS HAVE GONE SO MAD THAT I FIND MYSELF, AND ANCESTORS SAVE MY SOUL FOR SAYING THIS, QUESTIONING THE DECISION OF HIGH KING KURGAN ALL THOSE MILLENNIA AGO.
THIS IS GOING IN THE BOOK, I DON'T YET KNOW WHAT FOR, BUT I DO KNOW THERE WAS A GRAVE WRONG COMMITTED HERE.
 
WHY WOULDN'T I.

I SAID I DID DIDN'T I?

...WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT MANLING.



THE MANLINGS HAVE GONE SO MAD THAT I FIND MYSELF, AND ANCESTORS SAVE MY SOUL FOR SAYING THIS, QUESTIONING THE DECISION OF HIGH KING KURGAN ALL THOSE MILLENNIA AGO.
THIS IS GOING IN THE BOOK, I DON'T YET KNOW WHAT FOR, BUT I DO KNOW THERE WAS A GRAVE WRONG COMMITTED HERE.
The obvious answer is to send the silly manlings to the vampire land until they cool their heads.
 
I mean, no, it isn't hard to justify.

But it does make his position much weaker than it would be otherwise, and it acts as an argument for me to want to go against him more.
It doesn't really weaken his position considering his power base is largely comprised of people who at the least, dislike wizards and at the most, want to burn them all alive.

WHY WOULDN'T I.

I SAID I DID DIDN'T I?

...WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT MANLING.



THE MANLINGS HAVE GONE SO MAD THAT I FIND MYSELF, AND ANCESTORS SAVE MY SOUL FOR SAYING THIS, QUESTIONING THE DECISION OF HIGH KING KURGAN ALL THOSE MILLENNIA AGO.
THIS IS GOING IN THE BOOK, I DON'T YET KNOW WHAT FOR, BUT I DO KNOW THERE WAS A GRAVE WRONG COMMITTED HERE.
Meh, Elves are better anyway

*Runs for bunker*
 
With the pro wizard faction.

Which has never really been that strong among his power base.

No, but "Grand Theogonist justifies going against hero of the Dawi and bodyguard of the Emperor because they are a wizard, against Magnus's commands" hits very differently from "Grand Theoggonist goes against wizard, for reasons that can be assumed to be good". The first means that we can rely on Dawi, Roswita and college support, the second, not so much.

It doesn't really weaken his position considering his power base is largely comprised of people who at the least, dislike wizards and at the most, want to burn them all alive.

Weakening his position is not about weakening his power base, it is about making the people with every other power base, including, notably, the freaking Dawi, to tell him to get bent rather than letting him just go forward with his designs/wishes.
 
So, just how far are you willing to go?

Are you willing to return Karag Dum to seek out the Runemasters? Out of any group, they alone are actually confirmed to know more than the absolute most basic level of understanding of the waystones. And yet so many of the supporters of this Waystone vote voted against investigating Dum out of fear of Morghur.

And I'd say Dum is the least dangerous option for anyone that still remembers how the Waystones are supposed to work.

I don't think that implying that a vote for waystones is a vote for returning to Dum or failure is very factual.
 
Dont care much for the Waystones or Tutoring.

[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
 
Alright, I think I'm ready to vote. I'm still reading, so I may swing one way or another as time goes on, but I'll vote now, and explain my current reasoning. If any of you want to try and sway me, that'll give you a basis to try, or maybe point out flaws in my thinking.

So, my biggest concern going forward is freedom of movement. For me, the quest picked up a lot after we left Sylvania. Going to new places, exploring new areas, finding novel research, going on expeditions. I loved those parts of the quest a lot. I really want a job going forward with freedom of movement, getting to see new places and do novel things; the Swamp Town thing would match this goal well, except it discards far too much of our current foundation for my tastes.

That gives 3 jobs that meet my priority: Loremaster-at-Large, Mandred's Super Nanny, and potentially the Waystone Project.

Now, between the three, Loremaster-at-Large would be great, but it is more of the same. We are really, really popular with Dwarves. As a human, we've done more for the Dwarven Polity then could ever be expected of us, whereas we've had very little interaction with the Empire and large, and None with the Elves. That gives Super Nanny and Waystones the bump in my book.

I'd love to see the other provinces, and being the Imperial Fixer matches Mathilde's skills to a tee. We'd be tearing through Chaos cultists, rat infestations, vampire conspiracy and throats, or helping resolve the Marienburg situation. Sounds great to me. I'm also interested in getting to know Heidi better. She's currently in an extremely high position (Empress), and while she's working for Ranald, that doesn't guarantee she has the Empire's best interest at heart. What better way to confirm, that to work close with her for a few years:

[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred

I want more Elves. We all know humans, and we've been Dwarf-Quest for a couple years now, so I like Waystones for opening up the Elven factions. Boney is really good at characters an cultures, and I'd love to see his rendition of Elves with greater personality traits than "Prideful Disdain" you see often in their portrayals. That aside, the Waystones are a huge deal, and humans have almost no knowledge about them. They are keeping ambient magic to a level where daemons are unsustainable, and thus protecting the entirety of man, whether they are aware of it or not. A lot of the stability in the Old World is routed in these devices and humans have nothing to do with it at all. That a dangerous position to be in: to be reliant on things that we don't understand. To be honest, it isn't just humans either. The Elves and Dwarves have more knowledge sure, but not enough, not nearly enough. So, of the options, I think this one has potentially the largest impact on the greater world, barring the Skaven starting a war with humans in the next 20 years. So:

[X] The Waystone Project

Edit: spelling and grammar errors.
 
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WHY WOULDN'T I.

I SAID I DID DIDN'T I?

...WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT MANLING.



THE MANLINGS HAVE GONE SO MAD THAT I FIND MYSELF, AND ANCESTORS SAVE MY SOUL FOR SAYING THIS, QUESTIONING THE DECISION OF HIGH KING KURGAN ALL THOSE MILLENNIA AGO.
THIS IS GOING IN THE BOOK, I DON'T YET KNOW WHAT FOR, BUT I DO KNOW THERE WAS A GRAVE WRONG COMMITTED HERE.
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