- Location
- Poland
- Pronouns
- He/Him
They're the Excessive, not the Tolerable.
If Slaanesh went with Damnaz Kron, they'd probably make a scene of all the grudges being struck out.
Grim satisfaction of others carrying your will is not Slaanesh's idiom.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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If Slaanesh went with Damnaz Kron, they'd probably make a scene of all the grudges being struck out.
Grim satisfaction of others carrying your will is not Slaanesh's idiom.
You know I was trying to think of a argument to have a fortress built in out fief we never use but then I realized that having a fortress is a reason in and of itself.
Plus what Wizard passes up the chance to have their own secret fortress? I mean it is technically not secret but given how obscure our fief is it might as well be.
- Location
- Oklahoma
Well actually-
It was four coins, one from each pile and one for each face.
Is Vlag the largest number of people Mathy has saved in a single action?
- Location
- Earth
If you only count the immediate aftermath, probably.
If you'd account for longterm consequences our cracking Queekish, Waaagh and Peace and Winning the War Below should be in the running as well.
- Location
- Oklahoma
I'm pretty sure I've been saying this for weeks.
(Boney actually had a post from over a month ago that put the Vlag survivors at 'possibly tens of thousands', so this really wasn't shocking to me. Still Really nice to hear, though.)
That's a Grudgin'.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Depends on how you factor the long term effects of Drakenhof and K8P, or if you consider leading more people than that to not get slaughtered during the K8P Thunderdome, but probably.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
Depends. How many were in Eight Peaks when we nuked the Waaagh?
- Location
- Utrecht
Probably a good reason to avoid miscasts. Shadow hair prolly doesn't count
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Anyone else think that the Protector side of the coin is really weird, compared to the others?
The Gambler: You'll gamble better!
The Night Prowler: You'll sneak better!
The Deciever: You'll lie better!
The Protector: You'll damn well get the credit!
The Gambler: You'll gamble better!
The Night Prowler: You'll sneak better!
The Deciever: You'll lie better!
The Protector: You'll damn well get the credit!
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
You'll gain rep better!
Also, the gambler isn't really about gambling.
TaliesinSkye
Occasional Editor
- Location
- Northeast Ohio, United States
An oath of fealty would be a bit excessive, but I am kind of hoping that some day when Mathilde gets into trouble she's saved by Dramatic Vlag Interrupt.
BagFullOfLizards
Some bag, mostly lizards
- Location
- A bag
I'm looking forward to the next time we have a conversation like the one we had with the vampire running a school of necromancy. (Still one of my favorite bits of banter in the quest.)
"What did you do to get that much gear from the dwarves?!"
"Oh, you know. Crossed out some grudges, reclaimed a Karak."
"Which one?"
"Which two, actually."
"2547. Be very specific when setting tasks."
"What did you do to get that much gear from the dwarves?!"
"Oh, you know. Crossed out some grudges, reclaimed a Karak."
"Which one?"
"Which two, actually."
I'm imagining Belegar keeping notes on How To Handle Human Wizards.
"2547. Be very specific when setting tasks."
Hey, I wouldn't say our heroism is reckless! It may not be entirely reckfull, but it has at least a moderate amount of reck.
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Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
- Location
- America
Reminds me of how the book shop clan would probably go to war for us...
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The gambler is about taking risks better, which thematically is close enough.
And my point is that the Protector doesn't actually do anything to make it easier to protect people. Like, I might have expected a bonus like "You will have an inherent sense of where your abilities can be best used to protect the most innocents" or "rolls made to protect innocents get a +X bonus"
Something like that.
- Location
- Earth
Yes, we may have a Karak willing to go to war for us now...
Shouldn't ask it of them though. We want them to live.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That's why it hasn't really been used much, it only benefits Mathilde and doesn't benefit the goals she is trying to fulfill, on top of being the only facet that performs mental manipulation on our allies instead of our foes. IIRC, the main reason we used Protector on this trip was because it was possibly going to become critically important that we have enough social capital to wrest control of the Expedition out of Borek's suicidal hands.
Mathilde is an incredible Protector and that's why she hasn't used it's facet until now, because it doesn't actually help her Protect and is ironically quite selfish.
- Location
- Earth
The Protector is the face of standing up for the rights of the common man. So if Mathilde ever shanks some Noble because he broke those rights over his knee, the Commoners will know the Noble definitely broke those rules and Mathilde had no ulterior motive at all.
I'd call that very helpful to incite a rebellion
TaliesinSkye
Occasional Editor
- Location
- Northeast Ohio, United States
If we really are doing something for selfless reasons (as in this case) then it's arguably not even mental manipulation. It simply makes people aware of the truth.
Perhaps that's why it had no trouble going above and beyond in this case.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
No no.
How To Handle Human Wizards:
2547. Be vague. They tend to be overachievers.
- Location
- Utrecht
Or, considering the results:
Don't be too specific or explicit. You might find that alongside a bitter disappointment, they deliver a ton of sugar as a consolation prize.
"Go recover a Karak", as opposed to "Go recover THAT Karak"
That's how you get Karak Vlag back, instead of just the news of Karag Dum's fate. Reconnecting with Ravnvake was just Honey on top of my Stonebread.
Edit: Being a wizard comes with a pathological need to show off. Belegar will probably figure that out in the next ... however long it takes him to untie his brain from the Last of Mathilde's shenanigans.
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BagFullOfLizards
Some bag, mostly lizards
- Location
- A bag
I mean, we've seen that Ranald is usually known for the first three faces and not the Protector. See for example our difficulties incorporating him into the Stirland Watch. That seems frustrating enough that it makes perfect sense for the Protector to give the boon of "when I protect you you will damn well understand and appreciate it!"
- Location
- The Space Between
Most important to the cultural fissure between Dawi and Elgi is that the Elgi have never explained even a little bit about the Civil War or the Asrai or any of the other splinter cultures of Ulthuani Elgi. They literally didn't say shit, when Malekith was a high profile dwarf friend, and then the War of the Beard kicked off.
Like. Elgi are Elgi. There isn't like "some elgi are Dark Elgi and shit" and "some elgi are Caledor Dragontamer and thus pretty alright" it's just "Elf a shit"
being able to report on an elven civil war would be helpful in the sense that it's information that the Dawi do not have, and also there's a schadenfreude of "heh. They're also on the decline with a splinter branch fuckin things up. Not so moral high ground now are ya?"