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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BoneyM said:
There's also the scenario where a noble scion has a 'rogue' Magister assigned to teach them in exchange for certain favours and assistance to the College in question, which is technically legal but is rarely practiced because it's dangerous to have fledgeling Wizards outside a mono-Wind environment.
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I can't imagine the Greys doing that, so would someone predisposed to Ulgu just try to learn another wind instead?
 
Technically I suppose such a noble could also declare their intention to become an Elementalist and ride directly to Nuln, do not stop.

I believe they have less restrictions on graduates, so if your idea is to go back and inherit your noble titles, maybe that would work?
 
DragonParadox said:
Fair, though that does bring up a question. Does a mono-wind environment have to be a tower? Couldn't they make a secret underground room or something for some winds at least?
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Towers aren't just for style points, they're the best way to isolate rooms from ambient Winds - they're away from the Winds at ground level but not so far up that Azyr dominates, and you can vent excess magic without it bleeding into the rest of the structure. Building the rooms into the structure is possible, but it can do rather unsettling things to the house as leaked magic accumulates and starts to make itself at home. Theoretically the best method would be to dig it into bedrock, but it's extremely difficult to mine into rock in secret.

HavocKeeper said:
I can't imagine the Greys doing that, so would someone predisposed to Ulgu just try to learn another wind instead?
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I can easily imagine the Greys doing that, as long as they had a suitably charismatic tutor to properly indoctrinate the noble in question.
 
NSMS said:
*finally catches up with the thread after binging the past 100 pages*

Well... that was a trip and a half.
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As the Ostland School of Gunnery over in Dynamic Alcoholism Quest said about that one enchanted Holy Cannonball of Sigmar +5 that flew through a warp portal and then, weeks later, back out another warp portal to hit a Nurglite beastman shaman in the back...

"To Hell and Back."
 
Y'know, it occurs to me that even if the idea of meta magic is foreign to the other Colleges, it soon won't be with a dozen other wizards around to watch us cast Rite of Way. It would be hilarious to have papers written on us for once. :V
 
Ericwinter said:
Y'know, it occurs to me that even if the idea of meta magic is foreign to the other Colleges, it soon won't be with a dozen other wizards around to watch us cast Rite of Way. It would be hilarious to have papers written on us for once. :V
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They'd need to be able to figure out what we're doing just by looking at it for that, which it's very possible they won't be able to. Remember, they're only seeing the spell from the outside rather than getting a detailed look at and explanation of its internal mechanics, and unlike Mathilde they probably only have average windsight.
 
But yeah. What happened to Azul cannonically has likely been entirely averted. I believe we have reclaiming the hold the orcs were based out of on our to-do list if we ever come up with a way.
 
NSMS said:
They'd need to be able to figure out what we're doing just by looking at it for that, which it's very possible they won't be able to. Remember, they're only seeing the spell from the outside rather than getting a detailed look at and explanation of its internal mechanics, and unlike Mathilde they probably only have average windsight.
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Hey, maybe we give Horstmann ideas?

would be fun :D
 
Byzantine said:
What happened to Azul cannonically has likely been entirely averted.
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Eh, to a degree. Kazador's children are all in other holds now, so they're out of danger, but Gorfang Rotgut is almost certainly the new Warboss of Black Crag, Gorfang the Hungry. Whatever passage he used to sneak into Karak Azul presumably still exists. The raid could still happen.
 
@BoneyM does Rite of Way work for intentionally offensive man-made obstacles like caltrops, stakes in the ground and/or pits? If so Holy shit someone in Bretonnia ought to be having a joygasm once they hear of this spell and what it can do. Rough terrain and traps tend to be the biggest barrier to just CHARGING everyone forever and always and Rite of Way would just remove that.
 
LightLan said:
Hey, maybe we give Horstmann ideas?

would be fun :D
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Ah yes, van Horstmann the COMPLETELY TRUSTWORTHY magister of the Light College who is NOT A CHAOS CULTIST. I see no reason not to give the CLEARLY LOYAL van Horstmann ideas, and see ABSOLUTELY NO WAY it could backfire upon us. :V
 
A_Somebody said:
@BoneyM does Rite of Way work for intentionally offensive man-made obstacles like caltrops, stakes in the ground and/or pits? If so Holy shit someone in Bretonnia ought to be having a joygasm once they hear of this spell and what it can do. Rough terrain and traps tend to be the biggest barrier to just CHARGING everyone forever and always and Rite of Way would just remove that.
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No. It could work for very narrow ditches but that's about it.
 
A_Somebody said:
@BoneyM does Rite of Way work for intentionally offensive man-made obstacles like caltrops, stakes in the ground and/or pits? If so Holy shit someone in Bretonnia ought to be having a joygasm once they hear of this spell and what it can do. Rough terrain and traps tend to be the biggest barrier to just CHARGING everyone forever and always and Rite of Way would just remove that.
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There's no record of Damsels wielding Ulgu. And they would have to learn the spell to begin with- magical cooperation across the Old World isn't really a thing.
 
A_Somebody said:
@BoneyM does Rite of Way work for intentionally offensive man-made obstacles like caltrops, stakes in the ground and/or pits? If so Holy shit someone in Bretonnia ought to be having a joygasm once they hear of this spell and what it can do. Rough terrain and traps tend to be the biggest barrier to just CHARGING everyone forever and always and Rite of Way would just remove that.
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Ah yes, Bretonnia, known for it's Ulgu mages. :V
 
BoneyM said:
Algard said that the Penumbral Pendulum was a weaponization of the boundary between reality and the Warp while Mathilde was being promoted.
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Huh, question.

We've seen a few Ulgu spells with Boundaries, here, weaponizing a boundary, the pocke dimension widening boundaries ... could we create spells that focus on strengthening boundaries?

A relatively simple one, in my mind, would be casting a spell at a doorway, and people can't move through said doorway until either the spell runs out, a Wizards casts Dispel, or someone potentially keeps smacking it until it breaks. I can picture getting a lot of use out of this when it comes to exfiltrating, as well as magical architecture stuff (particularly if we can get a don't permit these races sort of thing going, similar to the don't burn these races thing we have with Burning Shadows).

A more complicated one that would definitely be at least Battle Magic would focus on the boundaries between armies that haven't yet reached melee, you cast the spell an a thin boundary of a certain length prevents the two armies from reaching each other at that location, at least until the spell ends, a wizard discasts it, or potentially they break it down. Would be useful for stopping enemy cavaly in their tracks (potentially even knocking them down if it's treated like a wall and they actually smash into it), or just keeping the enemy at range for longer if they lack range to the point where they need to close the distance, which is true for a good amount of enemies of the Empire.
 
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NSMS said:
They'd need to be able to figure out what we're doing just by looking at it for that, which it's very possible they won't be able to. Remember, they're only seeing the spell from the outside rather than getting a detailed look at and explanation of its internal mechanics, and unlike Mathilde they probably only have average windsight.
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It's either that or assume we're chaincasting like a motherfucker. Which I suppose they might do but would set a very bad precedent.
 
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