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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Ericwinter said:
It's either that or assume we're chaincasting like a motherfucker. Which I suppose they might do but would set a very bad precedent.
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Or they could just assume it's a sustained spell that works by means they don't understand- we haven't exactly slapped a label on Rite of Way saying it works by casting hundreds of mini skywalks, and I doubt they're intimately familiar with the precise ins and out and limits of what ulgu can do.
 
NSMS said:
Or they could just assume it's a sustained spell that works by means they don't understand- we haven't exactly slapped a label on Rite of Way saying it works by casting hundreds of mini skywalks, and I doubt they're intimately familiar with the precise ins and out and limits of what ulgu can do.
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It can't be that hard to notice multiple spells actualizing hundreds of times a second. Unless they have really bad Windsight, at least. Or we're trying to cover it up but that seems an unnecessary complication on top of an already complicated spell.
 
Mopman43 said:
There's no record of Damsels wielding Ulgu. And they would have to learn the spell to begin with- magical cooperation across the Old World isn't really a thing.
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Redshirt Army said:
Ah yes, Bretonnia, known for it's Ulgu mages. :V
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Okay maybe the term "joygasm anuerysm" would apply better as "MAOR GLORIOUS CHARGING" butts up against "But Muh Lady!!" QM confirmed it wouldn't work anyways. Guess Mathilde will just have to settle for revolutionizing logistical trains as opposed to that and rewriting tactical doctrine on Calvary charges.
 
Ericwinter said:
It can't be that hard to notice multiple spells actualizing hundreds of times a second. Unless they have really bad Windsight, at least. Or we're trying to cover it up but that seems an unnecessary complication on top of an already complicated spell.
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They're materialising inside a huge cloud of ulgu (the fog bank), which will make spotting them harder in the first place, and it's not like 'these are all individual spells' is the only reason to have vast numbers of magic chunks being created at once. Though as I understand it, the spell doesn't work quite like that anyway; it recycles and reuses individual skywalk instances by cycling them back to the caster and sending them back out, so it's more like a massive chain of tiny sparks of ulgu flowing in a loop.
 
Valmond said:
Well, i guess if we placed another, bigger, fire nearby, it could be used to devour all the oxygen from the smaller fire.
Or burn a fire corridor to stop the fire from spreading...
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Maybe replace the natural fire with magical fire, then put the magical fire out?
 
NSMS said:
"The fire can't keep burning if there's nothing left for it to burn!"
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That could actually work. Also leads to the interesting idea of a bright spell to that takes all the oxygen out of the air. In fact I suspect that the only reason that hasn't already been invented is lack of understanding of the chemical sciences.

Edit: Thread is full of ninjas.
 
Be thorough enough when setting someone on fire, and they will be immune to further burning damage once it's over!
 
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NSMS said:
Or they could just assume it's a sustained spell that works by means they don't understand- we haven't exactly slapped a label on Rite of Way saying it works by casting hundreds of mini skywalks, and I doubt they're intimately familiar with the precise ins and out and limits of what ulgu can do.
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Didn't write that pamphlet with boasts notes for the arcane observer.
 
Ericwinter said:
It can't be that hard to notice multiple spells actualizing hundreds of times a second. Unless they have really bad Windsight, at least. Or we're trying to cover it up but that seems an unnecessary complication on top of an already complicated spell.
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It very much can be - think about all of those art styles where lots of little individual things (that are virtually or actually identical) arranged in a specific pattern, or how people describe combustion engine sounds (a growl, rather than a series of staccato bursts).

People's brains are really, really good at finding broader patterns to stuff, to the point where ignoring said broader patterns to focus on individual pieces of the whole is a skill that needs to be deliberately trained.
 
NSMS said:
The Bright Magister gets ahold of a copy, and decides to recreate Rite of Way for Aqshy using a shin-level firestorm instead of a fog bank.

For some reason, it proves less popular among end users.
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Which is weird, because I bet it'd make people go even faster, unlike Rite of Way, which just gives them their normal speed.
 
Valmond said:
Well, i guess if we placed another, bigger, fire nearby, it could be used to devour all the oxygen from the smaller fire.
Or burn a fire corridor to stop the fire from spreading...
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Okay, but can you make a weaker fuzzier boundary to clarify and solidify another boundary? That's the question with cross applicability here.

That said, this does sound like good windherder fodder: spells that uses combinations of sharply defined/strengthened and fuzzy/weak boundaries to achieve more complex effects.

In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if that's part of what's going on with the Grey College: The Light College pouring some fraction of its power into strengthening the boundary between reality and the Aether so that the Grey College can expand that thin slice into a true medium and exist within it. Might be that the intersection of Hysh and Ulgu is a good place to research for pocket dimension spells.

Or well, it could be if the pocket dimensions in question could be fit into Mathilde's spell design themes.
 
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