Agreed, we are the best magic expert, the next is Horstman. Does anyone want to trust him in charge of the wizards and all things magical, against Chaos?
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Agreed, we are the best magic expert, the next is Horstman. Does anyone want to trust him in charge of the wizards and all things magical, against Chaos?
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There are several other Magisters present, who have equivalent seniority.
I'm sure we'd name someone we trust as deputy. Johann, say, who's also been a Magister for nearly a decade.
Conscience-ly speaking, I'm not a big fan of the 'make it Kislevs problem' option(s).
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Why wouldn't we trust him? The light wizards are the best of the Colleges at anti-Chaos and he already has authority over three other wizards.
Horstman is the one with three journeymen of his order present and the one with the most prestigious master. He would naturally have the ear of whoever we leave in charge regardless.
I don't want to make it Kislev's problem either.
Aramis
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Agreed, I don't see how metagaming this hard will go well for us.
Because he is bloody Horstman? Not metagaming is all well and good but I don't think you will find a majority for 'trust Horstman' in the thread at this point regardless.
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We've changed so much at this point that metaknowledge isn't really that useful, and frankly treating him with suspicion for something that the readers only know of his canon counterpart doing rather than this iteration is the best way to make a self-fulfilling prophecy.
That's the sort of thing you need multiple Lord Magisters and months to years to set up properly.
TimEd
Meteor maker
Nice. I love how this now turned into an actual in quest continuation of the last few pages of argumentation, but this time we have proper information and relative choices to work off of.
I do agree that we do not want to leave any Dwarves who might still have survived alone, even if only to avoid the rare possibility of them being Chaos tainted.
Leaning towards fortifying the road, since doing anything else is a bit of a dick move. If we do this though, I assume our forces wpuld be split? Since we would still need to guard the clogged waystone.
I do agree that we do not want to leave any Dwarves who might still have survived alone, even if only to avoid the rare possibility of them being Chaos tainted.
Leaning towards fortifying the road, since doing anything else is a bit of a dick move. If we do this though, I assume our forces wpuld be split? Since we would still need to guard the clogged waystone.
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NuclearConsensus
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It's kind of a shame the Kislevite locations are quite far, since the likelihood of gaining substantial reinforcement from them is low. At least the distance serves to shield them somewhat from the incoming onslaught of daemons.
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What if instead of waiting for the daemons to come to us, we instead attack? Shadow magic works on daemons just as well as it does on mortals, so Mathilde can go in and harass them, keep them focused on her rather than on leaving the karak. Mathilde could lead them out the front entrance where all her friends are.
He is of an age with Mathilde roughly and has been quite insulated from her more world-changing actions. I see no reason why would specifically have butterflied away his Fall, it was most likely a straight background roll. But let's look at this as a Grey Magister IC, the question is not why should we distrust him, it's why should we trust him? We trust the magisters we know because we know them, for right now all we really know about Horstman is that he is a man who volunteered to go to the Chaos Wastes, that is inherently suspicious, just like all the others.
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Move on and send the cavalry to harass them are kind of mutually exclusive, unless we want to lose the cavalry for the actual expedition.
Aranfan
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There is no possible way Mathilde will be able to tie up all the demons in the karak. She's good, but she's only one woman.
I'm now leaning towards the fortify the enterence with steam wagons
The Magister Patriarch of the Light College did vouch for him.
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Logistics. That would leave the wagons with correspondingly reduced escort across the Skull Road, and also leave the knights the difficulty of catching up afterwards, which could take several days.
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Old vote still isn't closed.
I'm in favour of fortifying the road - minimizes risk there's something in there we can't take and can't retreat from, protects Kislev somewhat so we're not abandoning them.
I'm in favour of fortifying the road - minimizes risk there's something in there we can't take and can't retreat from, protects Kislev somewhat so we're not abandoning them.
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[ ] Fortify the Karak entrance, but keep the steam-wagons disengaged.
Downsides: We'll have to fight those demons.
Upsides: They will be going against an entrenched position and the steam wagons are ready to allow us to run if this turns sour.
[ ] Harass the Daemons with cavalry to slow them down enough that they cannot reach population centers in time.
Downsides: no entrenched position, will suck if they somehow manage to force a battle.
Upsides: no full engagement, let their natural dispersal get rid of them. minimizes our casualties if this goes as planned.
Downsides: We'll have to fight those demons.
Upsides: They will be going against an entrenched position and the steam wagons are ready to allow us to run if this turns sour.
[ ] Harass the Daemons with cavalry to slow them down enough that they cannot reach population centers in time.
Downsides: no entrenched position, will suck if they somehow manage to force a battle.
Upsides: no full engagement, let their natural dispersal get rid of them. minimizes our casualties if this goes as planned.
TimEd
Meteor maker
You cannot just "move on" and also have the cavalry harrass them. That would just mean leaving the cavalry to fight the fight alone and with no fallback point, backup, and fortifications.
Fair, presumably the others have background recommendations too, but we don't really know those people either. It does not feel like enough of a counterbalance until we get to know all the non K8P magisters.
It would mean that every one would have to carry enough water and provisions to last them a few days, which is not the sort of thing you want weighing you down when doing hit-and-run attacks on daemons, and it means that anyone too injured to ride will have to be left to die.
It should be, I closed the old one and opened a new one manually just after posting the new update.