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What if we add a Dragon to this idea?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Asarnil and Deathfang are really good at the 'hit', not so much at the 'run'.
I really think people are underestimating the value of being in position right outside the hold to relieve a dwarven attempt to sally out/evacuate.
We at risk of a fleeing dwarven civilian population getting massacred while we're sitting twenty miles down the road unable to intervene.
We at risk of a fleeing dwarven civilian population getting massacred while we're sitting twenty miles down the road unable to intervene.
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While I think the chances are fairly low- who'd count as a civilian in Vlag after a however-long demonic siege in hell?- it's a good point, and would probably be persuasive to the council.
Ice Witches tend to be unsentimental 'big picture' types. One or two villages being razed now to prevent a daemon army from joining the next Everchosen? That's a bargain.
There's only about one day of daemonic marching from Vlag to the western end of the Pass. They don't have mortal limitations.
Isn't this the Magister Patriarch of the Light College that lost his position as Supreme Patriarch because he got trapped into a big crystal during the Night of a Thousand Arcane Duels?
That would be very reassuring if Alric didn't have a track record of underlings unleashing horrible things on the unsuspecting. He might have learned a lesson from that. In canon, he did not. But it's certainly enough for someone like Mathilde to be suspicious.
Keep in mind that in the Warp however long really does mean however long. Could be 180 years, could be 180 days, could be 180 minutes.
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And regained it in '39, and again in '55.
She was trying to figure out how to hack the Gibson before she realized she could just pull the plug.
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We have the mind whammy control fuckery of the Protector on, to be fair.
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That one was pretty clearly framed as actively returning the Karak- in a controlled manner. This 'magic power outage' is acknowledged as having a good chance of cutting Vlag loose from this reality instead of bringing it back.
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Basicly we went from dwarven standards to the umgi YOLO style solution.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
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Should we make an assumption that while we don't know where Vlags hidden exits are, they are on this side of the High Pass?
Edit: Otherwise we can make the assumption that the civilians from Vlag would've fled to Kislev during the invasion, right?
Edit: Otherwise we can make the assumption that the civilians from Vlag would've fled to Kislev during the invasion, right?
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Okay we can compromise.
[Q] Send a warning west. Fortify the entrance with half the wagons and fortify a different point in the road with the other half. Move on. Clog the waystone and then harrass the deamons.
[Q] Send a warning west. Fortify the entrance with half the wagons and fortify a different point in the road with the other half. Move on. Clog the waystone and then harrass the deamons.
If you don't use the Pass, there's about sixty miles of mountains between Karak Vlag and Kislev.
I mean if they are not there is literally nothing we can do about it. We can't guard the whole mountain range. That said if Vlag had another way though the mountains some of them would even have evacuated that way when the Daemons first came. They did not, which is a pretty clear indicator such a path does not exist
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
[ ] Fortify the Karak entrance with the steam-wagons.
Failing that
[ ] Fortify the Karak entrance, but keep the steam-wagons disengaged.
Mathilde believes its possible Karak Vlag might have survivors being beseiged there's no way I'm voting to clog the waystone and move on, if nothing else it will destroy an important part of the way stone network.
No we should at the very least make the effort to try and engage the forces that come pouring out, Mathilde believes they will be limited in number.
Failing that
[ ] Fortify the Karak entrance, but keep the steam-wagons disengaged.
Mathilde believes its possible Karak Vlag might have survivors being beseiged there's no way I'm voting to clog the waystone and move on, if nothing else it will destroy an important part of the way stone network.
No we should at the very least make the effort to try and engage the forces that come pouring out, Mathilde believes they will be limited in number.
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In the aftermath of an Everchosen invasion, there are many horrible reasons a group of refugees might not have made it back to friendly lines and safety. I don't think we can rely on the lack of paths as a given.
In either case we literally can't do anything about it. There is no way would be able to find the dwarven hidden entrance somewhere on the other side of 60 miles of mountains. If it exists and the daemons choose to use it Kislev is out of luck.
Sorry maybe I'm missing something but with a dragon's mobility why wouldn't they be good at the run part?
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Would it be possible for the demons to simply un-clog the Waystone if we don't fortify? They do have some sort of powerful sorcerer, after all.
@BoneyM, would the "fortify the road" option mean blocking the road to the Waystone, or would it mean blocking the road to Kislev? Or is that the same road?
@BoneyM, would the "fortify the road" option mean blocking the road to the Waystone, or would it mean blocking the road to Kislev? Or is that the same road?