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Hmm...
Current ability of ??? to respond:
The powers of Chaos rolled a 2 on their "ability to respond". That's an encouraging sign, which suggests that either they're busy dealing with internal opposition, or there's not much there left to oppose us. Given that they're doing a thing that we were able to notice, I'd bet that it's not just dregs of forces left behind; there's something legitimately going on here. That could just be the usual inter-faction conflicts of Chaos... but it could also be survivors of Vlag holding out. As such, I say we intervene immediately, and I'll be voting for a Light Chorus to do so (unless a better idea presents itself).
 
ya, all the plans are just overreaching (even the clog one is risking permanent waystone damage.

its a hard no, come back later problem.

we literally haven't even gotten into the dark lands and we are risking a small war.

[ ] No
 
ya... no.

look people, we solved the mystery, no one died, and the bosses will geta heads up, and we can comeback later with a whole load of Life wizards and a throng later. (if others don't beat us to it.)

lets not overstretch. we have less than 400 fighters, and limited food and water, and no idea if we can get back in time to fix the cog before long term damage.

[ ] No
We don't have the fortifications or ammunition supply to make a good bid on defending against a daemon horde (to say nothing of the possibility that they may just decide to sack the nearest city). I think that we should leave this be until we can come better prepared.

The thing is that we don't need to hold the line for days, we just need to find the next waystone up north and clog it, then wait for a few days before coming back to a demon free Karag
 
I don't think we can leave this be. This entire karak is basically a forward logistics hub for chaos through which they can raid, receive cultists, and spread corruption.
I think we're kind of oathbound to at least try to do something about it.
 
We don't have the fortifications or ammunition supply to make a good bid on defending against a daemon horde (to say nothing of the possibility that they may just decide to sack the nearest city). I think that we should leave this be until we can come better prepared.
We have dragon and alot of wizards. Also they only have a few days to find us with Deathfang and the knights giving them a hard time all the way.
 
I don't think we can leave this be. This entire karak is basically a forward logistics hub for chaos through which they can raid, receive cultists, and spread corruption.
I think we're kind of oathbound to at least try to do something about it.

That is also a good point. This is bad, bad, bad, and now that their cover is blown Chaos has not reason not to use it as much as they can.
 
@BoneyM How long does Mathilde think it will take the others to mount a response for Karak Vlag if we just choose to send the information?

They'd probably shoot for next year's thaw.

We can talk with wolf telepathically right?

Is that range limited?

Someone write another belegar negaverse where he gets out message!

For quest purposes, yes, at this distance all you can really do is get an idea whether Wolf's okay or not. For omake purposes the range can be whatever you want.
 
How would the rest of the expedition react if the goalposts were moved here and we changed our focus to Karak Vlag rather than Karag Dum? We know now that Vlag still exists and the fate of its inhabitants are just as up in the air as Dum, reclaiming/rescuing one Karak is more or less the same as another right?
 
Someone write another belegar negaverse where he gets out message!

You're finishing reading through a top priority report on developments in local ale brewing when Mathilde's dog rushes into your office, dismayed guards not far behind. They clearly dislike the breach of normal protocol, but you've given strict instructions - if Wolf is this agitated, an emergency has happened, and one far beyond even the need for belly rubs.

"Worf! Bork bork bork! Gar-ruff!" barks Wolf, before spinning around in a circle for emphasis.

Your eyes widen with shock. "What's that, boy? Karak Vlag is trapped in a demon-well!?"
 
The thing is that we don't need to hold the line for days, we just need to find the next waystone up north and clog it, then wait for a few days before coming back to a demon free Karag
The enemy gets a vote. The daemons can leave the hold at any time they wish. The question is what are they going to do when they realize that staying in the hold means dying? Will they just go to other parts of the aethyr? Or will they spill out into reality? If they spill into reality, how many are there? Will they charge our location, or try to overwhelm Kislev (or other polities)? If they charge our location, can we hold out while we lack the traditional dwarven defenses?

It isn't a simple "starve the daemons" = win.
 
Okay, I think we should go for channeling. Ot can be done right there and right now, while the enemy is reeling, and we can hold the gates in a reverse siege with a lot of guns and spells and a dragon.
 
[ ] Waystone Clog
- Deliberately block the next Waystone along to prevent the energy from Karag Dum reaching Karak Vlag, hopefully interrupting the effect keeping it in the Warp.
[ ] Waystone Interruption
- Have Cyrston channel as much magic out of the leyline feeding Karak Vlag as possible, hopefully interrupting the effect keeping it in the Warp.

I see this two options as closely related, we could maybe use Cyrston as a "trial run", see how Vlag reacts to a quick loss of magic, if it only buys an instant before Cyrston has to stop (and he presumably knows when to stop), then we might need to clog the waystone, if it buys a longer period, we could bring more jades (and slayers) and try to drain it after the expedition returns.
 
The enemy gets a vote. The daemons can leave the hold at any time they wish. The question is what are they going to do when they realize that staying in the hold means dying? Will they just go to other parts of the aethyr? Or will they spill out into reality? If they spill into reality, how many are there? Will they charge our location, or try to overwhelm Kislev (or other polities)? If they charge our location, can we hold out while we lack the traditional dwarven defenses?

It isn't a simple "starve the daemons" = win.

Overwhelm Kislev? It's 350 Miles to Praag. Daemonic instability sets in a matter of days. Daemon armies are not that fast.
 
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