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Clogging the connection and potentially forcing the hold out of the aethyr when nobody is around to deal with it seems like asking for trouble to me.
 
I have to say I don't like the idea of permanently damaging the network in the hopes of maybe cutting off the effect. There might be a better way that could be found with study. Having Mathilda do it could also be dangerous.

It sounds like this calls for a whole lot of wizards and a proper army to figure things out and resolve it before a demon army spills into Kislev one day. They can do whatever they need to do to undo the effect properly, and then hold off the demons until they expire.

The trouble is, Chaos now knows the jig is up and they've been uncovered. They aren't just going to passively sit there for years until a whole lot of wizards and a proper army show up. Giving Chaos years to figure out its next move is bound to be bad news.
 
[ ] Yes ' I can send to letter to Jade Order and the runesmith's guild (DF), they both have the skills and motivation to deal with an Waystone ritual like this without risking long term damage. and could work with a throng to retake it in time. but right now we don't have the time or manpower.'

is this a ok one @BoneyM? its leveraging all the good will we have been working towards with both the college and the dwarfs.

an 'only mathy can do' thing so to speak.

That's a 'no'. Dealing with it later is something to plan later.
 
Depends how long it's been clogged, but it wouldn't be a problem on a timescale of days.

How workable would it be to take Karag Dum, block the Waystone, hold the hold for a few days, unblock it and leave? Scouring the place for survivors and artifacts would take time anyway, so we would have to defend the place anyway. Or, I dunno, blocking a Waystone on the way there, and then unblocking it on the way back.
 
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The trouble is, Chaos now knows the jig is up and they've been uncovered. They aren't just going to passively sit there for years until a whole lot of wizards and a proper army show up. Giving Chaos years to figure out its next move is bound to be bad news.
I think the Colleges (and everybody else) will move on this quickly. Everyone knows how bad a demon army in their backyard is.
 
The gates aren't there any more. Unless something is done to change matters, what you're looking at is a solid stone mountain.



It would be safe for Mathilde. But this would mean that energy from Karag Dum will never reach Karaz-a-Karak again, even if Karak Vlag is retaken. Every node on the Waystone Network is irreplaceable.

Blocking a waystone shouldnt break it irreperably. Are you saying then that mathilde doesnt have the knowledge to do so in anything other than a totally destructive manner?

Figured from previous examples both in quest and out that we could temporarily block it. That would mean we would have to hold out long enough for the daemons to disperse if we pull it off or what ever forces they have on hand in vlag would unplug the blockage.
 
Clogging the connection and potentially forcing the hold out of the aethyr when nobody is around to deal with it seems like asking for trouble to me.

The beautiful thing about it is that the daemons will just dissolve on their own (after a few days) if forced out of the aethyr. If there are dwarves inside stubbornly holding out, they're instantly relieved and able to reclaim their karak once the daemons pop out of existence.
 
Hmmm... if we can do it, can't Slaanesh sorcerers that are managing the ritual also do it tho?

If they climb out of the warp and scour an entire mountain range until they find it, sure.

How workable would it be to take Karag Dum, block the Waystone, hold the hold for a few days, unblock it and leave?

Every step in there is doable, but it does have a big honking question mark of 'what do the daemon inhabitants do when you yank them out of the warp and park them there'.

Blocking a waystone shouldnt break it irreperably. Are you saying then that mathilde doesnt have the knowledge to do so in anything other than a totally destructive manner?

That specific question seemed to imply 'block it and continue with our journey'. Eventually the clog will turn into a permanent accumulation of Dhar that can only be solved by exploding it.
 
We should have pretended not to notice anything. Then again we would not know all that we know now then.
 
Okay, this is a BIG deal. Regardless of whether we directly intervene or not, after we make up our minds and do whatever we decide, we need to send messages to:

Teclis
Thorgrim
Kragg
Belegar (via Wolf/Pan)
Algard/Colleges of Magic
Emperor


Certainly a lot of major authority figures need to know what has happened here, and the more messages we send, the less likely worst case "we're blinked out of existence", or "memetic mindfucked" could happen to us.

Anybody else I'm forgetting? Feel free to add to this.
 
I'm actually a little unclear: Can clogging it and channeling away the magic both be done locally? For some reason I thought clogging required access to Dum's waystone upstream.
 
I'm actually a little unclear: Can clogging it and channeling away the magic both be done locally? For some reason I thought clogging required access to Dum's waystone upstream.

There are individual Waystones between the Holds that move the energy along. Mathilde can find the next one upstream and muck with that.

@BoneyM
The Karak Vlag waystone still exists, and it's still getting a power feed that we can see.
Can we use what we learned in our waystone class about how to prevent waystones from exploding in order to make the Vlag waystone explode?

Not while it's in a completely separate plane of existence.
 
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