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The Karag Dum Expedition, Part 5: Karak Vlag
Very fortunate results.
We know there isn't an immedate threat to the expedition. We have gained strategically significant intelligence. And we didn't lose anything. We even got to fight alongside Snorri. Time to get while the getting is good.

Suppose Hubert will be tasked with carrying the message back. Not many in the expedition can catch up after heading back to civilization.
Unless we have gyrocopters coming to visit? They were supposed to be watching the pass.

Wonder how noticeable the return and retreat of the Karag were. Would the other Wizards have felt anything?

"If I had my equipment, and my books, and a few other Wizard Lords, and preferably Kragg or Thorek, I might be able to try to yank it back out after a few months of study. But with what I have here and now? No."
I do so love that Mathilde has reached the point where yanking a Karag out from the literal depths of hell is a matter of "I would need to clear my schedule and call over a few friends" rather than being inconceivable.
 
Clogging the connection and potentially forcing the hold out of the aethyr when nobody is around to deal with it seems like asking for trouble to me.

Material world isn't easy for daemons to exist in. If the hold is pulled back into the real world, they'll automatically wither and eventually be banished.

The daemons would be able to do a lot of damage before diaappearing, if this was all happening in a civilized surroundings.

Thankfully on that front, Karak Vlag is very far from any centre of civilization, located somewhere between empty frontiers of Kislev and the mountains with tho nearby dwarf Karak for miles.
 
There are individual Waystones between the Holds that move the energy along. Mathilde can find the next one upstream and muck with that.

Oh. Well.

If Borek is up for it, putting the daemonic force on a timer to come find our hidden waystone and fix it before they evaporate seems like a swell way to handle this, especially assuming the rest of the expedition finds the most defensible location possible (preferably on top of said waystone) and forts up.
 
Yes cog and watch for a few days. Hopefully that brings the Kragg back. Then we just have to defend the waystone for a few days until the demons are banished.
 
Okay, so the plan would be to find minor Waystone, clog it, hold out a few days, and then open it back up.

....

This is a plan with a lot of downsides and potential ways it can go wrong, but the upsides are insanely good. Reclaiming Karak Vlag within a few days? Maybe even freeing dwarves trapped inside?

Damn it, damn it, damn it.... Let's do it and be Legends!
 
I do so love that Mathilde has reached the point where yanking a Karag out from the literal depths of hell is a matter of "I would need to clear my schedule and call over a few friends" rather than being inconceivable.
Algard would be very helpful with his knowledge of pocket dimension.

But the buck stops with Mathilde here.
 
So, for clogging plan we clog, force daemons into reality, watch as they hopefully dissolve, reverse clog, and then hopefully continue on our merry journey?
 
That specific question seemed to imply 'block it and continue with our journey'. Eventually the clog will turn into a permanent accumulation of Dhar that can only be solved by exploding it.
ya... no.

look people, we solved the mystery, no one died, and the bosses will geta heads up, and we can comeback later with a whole load of Life wizards and a throng later. (if others don't beat us to it.)

lets not overstretch. we have less than 400 fighters, and limited food and water, and no idea if we can get back in time to fix the cog before long term damage.

[ ] No
 
ya... no.

look people, we solved the mystery, no one died, and the bosses will geta heads up, and we can comeback later with a whole load of Life wizards and a throng later. (if others don't beat us to it.)

lets not overstretch. we have less than 400 fighters, and limited food and water, and no idea if we can get back in time to fix the cog before long term damage.

No, we wouldn't "come back". The idea would be for Mathilde to clog it and hang around for a few days, then rejoin the Expedition. She'd be doing this essentially on her own.
 
Is there an entrance to the mines nearby? If so then we would have much less stone to reach through to touch the magic.
 
No, we wouldn't "come back". The idea would be for Mathilde to clog it and hang around for a few days, then rejoin the Expedition. She'd be doing this essentially on her own.

There's no scenario in the world where Mathilde presents a plan that reclaims a Karak and Dwarves are like 'okay, cool, this isn't something we're particularly interested in, so we'll continue on our journey while you do that'.
 
We don't have the fortifications or ammunition supply to make a good bid on defending against a daemon horde (to say nothing of the possibility that they may just decide to sack the nearest city). I think that we should leave this be until we can come better prepared.
 
You only need to find the next Waystone if you're trying to clog. Channelling can be done here, pulling the magic directly out of the leyline.
Sure, just want to understand if we can start channeling right now on the move while looking for a waystone to clog. Don't want to give the ??? time to prepare.
 
Would it be possible to combine plans? First clog waystone, which should weaken whatever magic that holds Vlag outside of realite, and then have Cyrston channel azyr charge into leyline? Starve and then shatter/subvert weakened magic.
 
Either way we need to send this info up the chain. The door opened and then close is it possible to open the door again even a crack?Would dragon fire help in anyway or even just the dragon?
 
Magic or Dhar?

Otherwise these ones are a source of AV too!

Magic. They're not a source of AV, they're going straight from daemon to magic.

Sure, just want to understand if we can start channeling right now on the move while looking for a waystone to clog. Don't want to give the ??? time to prepare.

There's no reason to do both at the same time. Channelling and clogging achieve the same thing.

Would it be possible to combine plans? First clog waystone, which should weaken whatever magic that holds Vlag outside of realite, and then have Cyrston channel azyr charge into leyline? Starve and then shatter/subvert weakened magic.

This thing is eating an entire Karak's worth of magic. It can eat some extra Azyr.

Either way we need to send this info up the chain. The door opened and then close is it possible to open the door again even a crack?Would dragon fire help in anyway or even just the dragon?

The door didn't close, it left this plane of reality. There's nothing there but rock now.
 
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