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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Valmond said:
Taking that money is part of our job.
I mean, the fief is not being harmed by us ignoring it, but we are, technicly, not doing our job as a Stirlandian Noble. :V
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BoneyM said:
"This day do I render homage and fealty to my Lord, the Elector Count Abelhelm Van Hal of Stirland, who will, from this day forward, be my Liege. I will remain true in all ways, serving him faithfully - this do I swear, by my life and by my Gods." You wipe at your burning eyes with a sleeve, angry at yourself. "So say I, Mathilde Weber."
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that's the Oath Mathilde swore. With the death of Abelhelm it defaulted to his Heir, Roswita, who decided she does not want us.

And even then we went Vampire-killing when it became clear she needed our help even if she did not want it.

We're doing fine :)
 
Valmond said:
Taking that money is part of our job.
I mean, the fief is not being harmed by us ignoring it, but we are, technicly, not doing our job as a Stirlandian Noble. :V
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plus you know, kind of need to check in once in awhile to make sure the boy (man now) hasn't gotten lazy or corrupt or someone pretending to be us or a relative (or gods forbid an actual relative) hasn't crashed the place.

or taken over by a vampire or necromancer as an out of the way hideout. (though that would be one dumb and/or ballzy vamp/necromancer.)

like, even if its a cactus farm, Striland is still the type of place you need to give a small check-up every so often otherwise you might find a dead or worse village.
 
LightLan said:
that's the Oath Mathilde swore. With the death of Abelhelm it defaulted to his Heir, Roswita, who decided she does not want us.

And even then we went Vampire-killing when it became clear she needed our help even if she did not want it.

We're doing fine :)
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Pretty sure that the legal obligations of a noble go bit beyond that oath, there's probably several books filled with the minutiae of all our rights and responsibilities.
And Roswita not wanting us as her spymaster did not make us not a stirlandian noble..
Nobody is going to come sue us or anything, but as i said, technicly, we are pretty certainly not doing our job.
 
Valmond said:
Pretty sure that the legal obligations of a noble go bit beyond that oath, there's probably several books filled with the minutiae of all our rights and responsibilities.
And Roswita not wanting us as her spymaster did not make us not a stirlandian noble..
Nobody is going to come sue us or anything, but as i said, technicly, we are pretty certainly not doing our job.
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Rights don't matter if we don't choose to exercise them. That just leaves responsibilities, so which responsibilities do you think are being shirked?
 
There are noble families in the Empire that haven't visited their fief in person in generations. Mathilde delegated the responsibilities, checks in every so often, and if there was trouble she'd show up to sort it out. By no measure is she failing in her responsibilities.
 
Valmond said:
Pretty sure that the legal obligations of a noble go bit beyond that oath, there's probably several books filled with the minutiae of all our rights and responsibilities.
And Roswita not wanting us as her spymaster did not make us not a stirlandian noble..
Nobody is going to come sue us or anything, but as i said, technicly, we are pretty certainly not doing our job.
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I'm all for visiting our cactus fief but our responcibilities where covered when we hired a senechal.

Edit: Ninja'd by the QM.
 
Valmond said:
Pretty sure that the legal obligations of a noble go bit beyond that oath, there's probably several books filled with the minutiae of all our rights and responsibilities.
And Roswita not wanting us as her spymaster did not make us not a stirlandian noble..
Nobody is going to come sue us or anything, but as i said, technicly, we are pretty certainly not doing our job.
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The official job of a noble is generally to protect the land.

We've moved the border with the undead forces massively away from our fief. So we've been doing that job.
 
Valmond said:
There's a reason i said technicly.
Because in practice we're doing fine.
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I really doubt there are anywhere near as many technicalities to our position as you're thinking. We're in a medieval-esque situation, not the Byzantine empire.

Peasants don't get a whole bunch of rights, so it's only our obligations to the Elector Count that matter beyond the "defend the land" thing, and those are all down to the oath, (EDIT and probably a feudal contract detailing what level of tax and levy are expected) as we were given a fief directly and didn't inherit any old agreements.
 
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BoneyM said:
He opens his mouth to reply, then pauses. "While 'aye' would not be incorrect," he says thoughtfully, "It doesn't quite communicate the nature of the vermin. The beastmen that lurk in the woods of your Empire are a very different breed to those that burrow beneath the earth. They are ratmen, boundless in number; in your tongue, they are called Skaven."

The words echo unpleasantly in your head, and grow. A thought unfolds uncomfortably in your mind, and you're taken back to a day forgotten some fifteen years ago. A voice, unfamiliar to you, droning in a bored voice. "Number thirty-two. The Ratmen and the Conspiracy of Silence. If you believe you are accessing this memory in error, please contact the Grey College at your earliest convenience." Information blossoms, summoned by a name erased from history. A terrible enemy, an empire underground. Numbers, mutability, wizardry, technology, stealth, poison, disease, all the ingredients to wipe out humanity, missing only one: unity. Knowledge suppressed so that they felt secure enough to war among themselves. Emperor Mandred, who's death plunged the Empire into centuries of civil war, slain by ratman assassins. Once he was known as the Skavenslayer; now he is the Ratslayer, and given another century or two, perhaps he will be the Beastslayer.

You swallow, and taste blood. "Them," you say faintly. "I know of them."
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It's a while since this plot device has made an appearance, I wonder if we will see its comeback once we are in the dark lands.
 
Briefvoice said:
We're on track to spend 22 College Favor in this one vote alone. Going to be 9 left after this.
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we are around the second to third best enchanter in the grey college and there is still no Tuner.

if we feeling a favour pich, we can literally just carve a good bit of wood into a staff and send it off to be given to a newbie. (we can get even more if we spash time and resource for a fancy staff.)

if there is one thing that skill grinding enchanting to almost Battle magic levels did, its that we can now get a good chunk of CF whenever we want.

and we still have papers coming in.
 
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LightLan said:
Mathilde is good, but not that good.

There are people that can teach how to enchant Battle Magic, Mathilde's not there yet.
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maybe, but we still have a skill, (making staffs) that the college is still in need of and not enough people doing.

that means we have easy (ish) CF until the turner job is filled. (possibly by Mathy if the thread feels like its a good way to go.)
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
maybe, but we still have a skill, (making staffs) that the college is still in need of and not enough people doing.

that means we have easy (ish) CF until the turner job is filled. (possibly by Mathy if the thread feels like its a good way to go.)
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the Turner job costs us rougly 2AP per turn, IIRC.
Which is just about what our current job costs us, and I find our current one vastly more engaging.

Doesn't have my vote.
 
LightLan said:
Mathilde is good, but not that good.

There are people that can teach how to enchant Battle Magic, Mathilde's not there yet.
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Sure, but how many of them? Two? Then the original comment still might be accurate. :)

As far as our fief goes, I kinda way to treat it as a breadcrumb for some newbie hero in a hundred years. Put in a vault and some lesser versions of our equipment- a bridle, a sword, and a belt- set up some puzzle traps, maybe a lock that requires ulgu to open, and let it marinate.

Not hiding the construction would mean that local rumors of the dammerlichter's treasure would spread, but stay local because everyone "knows" the real treasure is in K8P, why would she ever keep anything important in some flyspeck in Stirland? So that keeps it low level but unmolested for a while, just waiting on a plucky would-be Mathilde II to go delving for it.

Also, maybe we gear up/train up a local as a caraphract? I figure one real fighter to serve as baliff, protection past slings, and contribution to any musters the province might raise would go a long way to raising the prestige. After all, even if we aren't there, there's a proper looking armored sort on a horse in the keep. Have both the steward and the baliff be locals and we've pretty much set it up so the land stays in local hands if we die: easiest thing for Roswita to do would be promote the almost-already-a-knight person.
 
LightLan said:
the Turner job costs us rougly 2AP per turn, IIRC.
Which is just about what our current job costs us, and I find our current one vastly more engaging.

Doesn't have my vote.
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I don't know, the job itself is not a very interesting one, but I would assume that if we did take it Boney would have 'make staff' as a background thing and fill up the actual update with 'college politics/social/emergencies actons'

we would still have to do the job actions to make a staff, but it would be the college stuff around that would be the focus and plot.

e.g [ ] while creating a staff, M Grey knocks on your door in your home in k8ps to talk about X and as a proposition to bring to the patriarch they want your support for.

or [ ] one day as you drop off the newest stuff a grave message arrives in the college, a beast herd has attacked X, and a call has been sent for any willing to help to join the mobilising army, maybe you should join while you're here?

@BoneyM would that be about right?
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
I don't know, the job itself is not a very interesting one, but I would assume that if we did take it Boney would have 'make staff' as a background thing and fill up the actual update with 'college politics/social/emergencies actons'
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last time we made a staff we got a lot of text about Mathilde making a staff. I do not expect that to change.
 
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