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Emperor at the time was very friendly to halflings, and Stirland's neighbours wouldn't have necessarily been opposed to that province getting diminished in power.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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You know, what with sylvania and all, i feel like that was overall not the best move.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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This was... 800 years before Vlad came to power? And Sylvania at the time was ruled by Stirland. They achieved independence following the Night of Restless Dead in 1681.
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You... if they had accepted wizardry earlier i bet atleast some of the empires problems wouldn't have happened.
I mean any celestial could have told you that this would have a bad outcome.
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
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- Jerkville
Aerial Zhufokrul Research Institute of Learning, Dawi Recognition Evaded, Knowledge Keeping Experts(Deniable)
Haven't seen a lot of halflings, have you?They were too light to be killed by hanging.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
It's a reference to Order of the Stick, a DnD webcomic.
A title is all i need!
NexusEye
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Um, it wasn't actually, I used to read OotS but the last time I checked it was a few years ago. I actually completely forgot that scene until you just reminded me.
Our Mastery lets us do it. Which was the topic at hand.
He's grumbling about Khazalid, Mathilde with her high Dwarf Reputation and ability to spend 'free' Dwarf Favors means she has one of the best collections of Karaz Ankor books on metaphysics in the world not in the hands of a dwarf.
Well...
...this basically. Force it into a single state, use an attack which would damage them regardless of which phase state they are in.
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
@BoneyM
Are there any ulgu BM spells that have unique effects or rather magical frameworks that cant be derived from existing spells that Mathilde knows? To contextualise my question with Melkoths we have learned a spell mechanism to screw with time that we didnt have before are there other oddities in the Ulgu BM spells that we could learn for spell creation or enchanting purposes?
It strikes me if Ulgu can do extra dimensional spaces via enchantment thats from pit of shades.
Ulgu can make a decent meat locker using ice and time stasis to slow decay. Just thinking about the potential what the remaining spells can do.
Are there any ulgu BM spells that have unique effects or rather magical frameworks that cant be derived from existing spells that Mathilde knows? To contextualise my question with Melkoths we have learned a spell mechanism to screw with time that we didnt have before are there other oddities in the Ulgu BM spells that we could learn for spell creation or enchanting purposes?
It strikes me if Ulgu can do extra dimensional spaces via enchantment thats from pit of shades.
Ulgu can make a decent meat locker using ice and time stasis to slow decay. Just thinking about the potential what the remaining spells can do.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
It seems like Mathilde doesn't know anything special about the operation of Grey Battle Magic compared to us - MMM messing with time was a surprise to her too.
So in that context, various Battle Magics having sub-components beyond the obvious seems to be in "learn them and find out" territory.
I'm not sure we have, we learned to do it as part of a concrete effect. I don't think that exactly means we have a deep enough understanding of the underlying mechanism to re-purpose it to other projects though.
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That just means we have to study it my dude..
Actually if you ratchet the time fuckery up enough you could probably make something hilariously lethal, just have parts of a body going way fucking faster than the rest.
"It was the strangest thing sirs! The lord's heart just pounded right out of his chest!"
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
So. Everything Hysh does, Ulgu seems to mirror somehow.
Hysh creates light? Ulgu creates darkness. Hysh sees through illusions and confusion? Ulgu induces them. Hysh can heal people? Ulgu can make them do the sleeping beauty thing.
Hysh can accelerate time? Ulgu can disrupt time. Hysh can untether you from time? Ulgu can go back in time.
So, a thought. Hysh can banish unnatural powers, or force them not to do things.
It seems to me that Ulgu could be... suspiciously good at something similar.
Hey daemon, bother that person.
Hey daemons, join this party.
Hey daemons, you see that location over there? It's free real estate.
Why stretch with 'chains of ulgu' or trying to mind control something mostly mindless when we can just lean on The Hysh Precedent, and go 'You know exorcism? Do the opposite of that.' Hysh uses searing beams of light to drive out and destroy unnatural existences; a cool mist that diffuses light could probably create an environment where they can exist when they otherwise might not. Hysh uses symbology and personal sacrifice to compel unnatural existences to go away and not harm people. I bet if we had somebody else's possessions we could probably use symbology to sic a monster on them.
We have to explain how we came up with the apparition-binding techniques somehow. We might as well crib from our own fake notes.
Hysh creates light? Ulgu creates darkness. Hysh sees through illusions and confusion? Ulgu induces them. Hysh can heal people? Ulgu can make them do the sleeping beauty thing.
Hysh can accelerate time? Ulgu can disrupt time. Hysh can untether you from time? Ulgu can go back in time.
So, a thought. Hysh can banish unnatural powers, or force them not to do things.
Hey daemon, leave that person alone. Hey daemons, all ya'll need to go back to the warp now. Hey daemons, leave me alone, you hear?
It seems to me that Ulgu could be... suspiciously good at something similar.
Hey daemon, bother that person.
Hey daemons, join this party.
Hey daemons, you see that location over there? It's free real estate.
Why stretch with 'chains of ulgu' or trying to mind control something mostly mindless when we can just lean on The Hysh Precedent, and go 'You know exorcism? Do the opposite of that.' Hysh uses searing beams of light to drive out and destroy unnatural existences; a cool mist that diffuses light could probably create an environment where they can exist when they otherwise might not. Hysh uses symbology and personal sacrifice to compel unnatural existences to go away and not harm people. I bet if we had somebody else's possessions we could probably use symbology to sic a monster on them.
We have to explain how we came up with the apparition-binding techniques somehow. We might as well crib from our own fake notes.
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- Aotearoa
Always great to see Reggie, and a fine example of how hard won experience can be of help, whatever any (real or imagined) natural talent or technical skill level differences can be. If you don't think to stab the second heart, then stabbing the first one might not do what you hope.
Also, he provides a reference point to see how Mathildes' capabilites have grown- compare her reactions to his stealth shenanigans when she was say getting Knighted in Eagle castle- she knew she'd not be able to see through his cloaking.
Hope for some social turn options with Melkoth, he's a fun eccentric. Maybe a 'show Reggie and Melkoth around our magical facilities and the Karak' option?
[Activate tongue in cheek mode]
So, Melkoth is also probably the guy we want to help out when we get around to developing our time-travel spell, Mathildes Momentous Movement of Moments.
Between MMM, and his time-sense-blurring here:
The spell could perhaps utilise elements from Algards trick to confuse the sky about where the Sun should be (as the position in the sky also depends on time, in the usual run of things).
You could, hmm, perhaps move the moment you are in now so that (you think?) it happened then. Move the moment, at least momentarily. Clearly some of Johann's magics allow 'lived experience' of earlier times, running at different subjective time speeds. An actual time travel spell might just need to add an element of confusion about whether you might have actually been there at the time, and thus able to impact events. After all, the historical record can be foggy and uncertain, and differing accounts quite confusing.
Aside from Melkoth's clear skill at temporal manipulation, they have a shared spell-naming sensibility.
Speaking of, the only reason we've not seen those aggrieved atemporal Apprentices assiduously attempting ahistorical assassination yet might be that time travel will turn out to be one of those things where you can't travel backwards in time to a time before the time time travel was invented.
(Timey wimey.)
So, we can expect a massive ambush right about time time we succeed on the MMMM spell creation roll. Probably.
Plus, another reason to pull Melkoth in- he'd be around to provide backup.
Also, he provides a reference point to see how Mathildes' capabilites have grown- compare her reactions to his stealth shenanigans when she was say getting Knighted in Eagle castle- she knew she'd not be able to see through his cloaking.
Hope for some social turn options with Melkoth, he's a fun eccentric. Maybe a 'show Reggie and Melkoth around our magical facilities and the Karak' option?
I expect he was grumbling about not being able to read half of our library, which is written in Khazalid.
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Could this be thread thinking (or... maybe insight?) making it into Mathildes thoughts, perhaps?
Neat! That was a hell of a roll. Like SSS, I wondered if it could have hit 200...
[Activate tongue in cheek mode]
So, Melkoth is also probably the guy we want to help out when we get around to developing our time-travel spell, Mathildes Momentous Movement of Moments.
Between MMM, and his time-sense-blurring here:
(Having said that, this turned into not-entirely-unserious theorycrafting...)
The spell could perhaps utilise elements from Algards trick to confuse the sky about where the Sun should be (as the position in the sky also depends on time, in the usual run of things).
You could, hmm, perhaps move the moment you are in now so that (you think?) it happened then. Move the moment, at least momentarily. Clearly some of Johann's magics allow 'lived experience' of earlier times, running at different subjective time speeds. An actual time travel spell might just need to add an element of confusion about whether you might have actually been there at the time, and thus able to impact events. After all, the historical record can be foggy and uncertain, and differing accounts quite confusing.
Aside from Melkoth's clear skill at temporal manipulation, they have a shared spell-naming sensibility.
Speaking of, the only reason we've not seen those aggrieved atemporal Apprentices assiduously attempting ahistorical assassination yet might be that time travel will turn out to be one of those things where you can't travel backwards in time to a time before the time time travel was invented.
(Timey wimey.)
So, we can expect a massive ambush right about time time we succeed on the MMMM spell creation roll. Probably.
Plus, another reason to pull Melkoth in- he'd be around to provide backup.
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MAthilde's Portable Prison?
pocket dimension plus, time fuckery to keep prisoners in stasis!
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- North Wales
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If you're going to go full-on daemon summoning, you may as well do it with Dhar. It's better at it, and once you're breaking one Article you may as well break more. You can't be burned at the stake more than once after all.
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What would we even do with a timetravel spell?
Use it for redo's of important moments?
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Oh, is it the word daemon (not being derisive, I'm just trying to clear up any confusion)? I thought my post was fairly clear that I was referring to our research into apparition-ology, using daemon as a catch-all for spiritual entities, but if the word is polarizing enough I can see how there might be confusion.
Replace it with Apparition; it's just easier to touch-type 'daemon'. Sorry.
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I'd vote for this. We've basically seen every wizards we invite go through the library almost before they set their luggage down. It'd be cool to see a discussion between the three of them focused on this magical fortress Mathilde had put together, pros and cons.
Getting a critical look at it from these two would be very good for insight into how we need to move with regards college politics later.
And then regenerating instantly.
Meanwhile, a 1 on Battle Magic...
We ain't regenerating from that.
Mathilde also has some thoughts about the risks of Battle Magic:
Mathilde compares Anvils, where miscasts can use the term "blast radius", to Battle Magic and finds the anvil safer.
There are too many things that can happen on miscasts that we just don't have an answer for, but we are excellently equipped to survive mere phsyical trauma.
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- Aotearoa
Combine it with the growing legend of the Dammerlichtreiter, the thread idea of Ulgu-ifying our own Apparition, and our existing reputation for arriving unexpectedly fast, the probability of the answer to "could Mathilde have been there?" being "yes" increases to approach 100%.
Has there always been a Dammerlichtreiter in Stirland? Hmm?
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
You know that literally doesn't work if they don't try to cast a spell on us first, right? They can just keep stabbing us until the rustling stops. The number of enemies required for that combo to stop working is two.
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- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
Are there any non-Engineer and non-Slayer radicals of renown?
How exactly did that go off? Did all landowners and their farmers get forcefully resettled, no matter how minor? Where non-landowning non-farmers (like craftsmen and such) literally run out of their little towns? Are humans still not allowed to settle in the Moot?
All of that only sounds possible with a large army and at least a few massacres.