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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BoneyM said:
"It'll be uglier than you think it'll be."
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Well dragons do tend to have a Frightful Presence. I wouldn't call them ugly generally but I can see how a 'creatures of the forest' fanatic could think such.
Or does he mean socially? In which case the uneducated fool is talking out his arse. The culture(s) of K8P are nigh-unrecognisable compared to those of the Empire.

(You're distracted from your task by a while by an unexpected pang of regret that you levelled Castle Drakenhof. How much could you have learned from but a single book written by him?)
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Now there is a warning sign if ever there was one.
Dhar immunity does not translate into stupidity immunity.

[ ] Emperor Luitpold
[ ] The Imperial Spymaster
[ ] Supreme Patriarch Dragomas
[ ] Magister Patriarch Algard
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Would rather see his wife if I am honest. Dude did not impress.
We do not need to add another character to the social turn.
…while I know there must be more to him he comes across as a typical Amber too much for me to trust him with this. If he can't be relied upon to wear a shirt he cannot be relied upon to handle our books.
Our direct boss. Someone actually qualified to know about and handle the info we will be giving. And someone I would love to see more of.

[X] Magister Patriarch Algard


Now to read the... 9 pages of comments. Plus however many get written while i catch up. /sigh
 
Angelform said:
Now there is a warning sign if ever there was one.
Dhar immunity does not translate into stupidity immunity.
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With respect, Vlad von carstein is an immortal with insight from literal millennia of existence, his morality is definitely not good but the idea that he wouldn't have any wisdom worth knowing from those millennia is pretty arrogant. The important thing would be stripping the good from the questionable.
 
[X] Magister Patriarch Algard

He is our boss, and I've enjoyed our interactions with him thus far.
 
[X] Magister Patriarch Algard
[X] Supreme Patriarch Dragomas

BoneyM said:
"It'll be uglier than you think it'll be."
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If we end up with something horrifying and immoral to use you are all allowed to blame me. I'll still have fun reading about it regardless. It's been a long time since Mathilde has done something that earned her the outright disapproval of people she respects. The closest I remember is her unworkable undead research taskforce proposal.

BoneyM said:
The Bright Order has enough of a tradition of it that they'd have an Advanced Staff Turning
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Is this based on canon or your own flavor? Because details like that are really neat.
Vebyast said:
To Whom it May Concern:
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I like it on principle, but taking Van Hel's vampire-annotated diary and making it into 9 separate papers with little additional insight contained therein feels a bit self-aggrandizing, especially since everything that's based off of that book and not sufficiently censored will be locked away with the same security measures as the near-perfect copy the Empire already possesses.
Andres110 said:
When did we get so poor!? Our hoard is nearly spent!
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We can always go and collect some from our estate or our niter factory if we really need to.
 
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while i would like to find out who the Spymaster is.

I'm pretty happy to be on Algards radar for when he wants to start grooming a successor for Patriarch

no way are we letting that religiously untolerant jackass Reiner Starke in charge.
 
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Rafin said:
I like it on principle, but taking Van Hel's vampire-annotated diary and making it into 9 separate papers with little additional insight contained therein feels a bit self-aggrandizing, especially since everything that's based off of that book and not sufficiently censored will be locked away with the same security measures as the near-perfect copy the Empire already possesses.
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That's compartmentalizing though, which is good for security and need-to-know access lists.
 
Alratan said:
I wonder if we could make the dragon transformation healthier by asking a runesmith to build something like a decontamination chamber that sucks any residual Ghur out of the volunteer. Possibly followed by an enchanted item of that gold spell that cures mental damage, followed by another strip to decontamination.

Making it a tower rather than an altar might have been more sensible as well.
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An altar allows for it to be moved, so that there is not a stationary target that is vulnerable to things like artillery, and also opens up the possibility for offensive use if circumstances make such a thing favourable.
 
vsh said:
That's compartmentalizing though, which is good for security and need-to-know access lists.
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I guess. But separating his diary into a biography and a "complete" history book on that war seems like something that I'd dislike from a scholar and that adds little value. If course any such concerns could be bulldozed over with sufficiently high rolls representing Mathilde's personal insights and wise commentary.
 
BeepSmile said:
An altar allows for it to be moved, so that there is not a stationary target that is vulnerable to things like artillery, and also opens up the possibility for offensive use if circumstances make such a thing favourable.
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A tower on top of a mountain is basically impossible to target with artillery at this tech level and for the foreseeable future. You try dragging a cannon up to the top of a mountain. It's essentially impossible. Firing a cannon upwards means the enemy will lose enormous amounts of range, and a regular 16 pounder only has about a mile's range on level ground. WIth much of that lost by firing upwards, it would be a fool's errand.

A spell that lasts indefinitely can be used offensively anyway as the transformed person can just fly where they need to be, and a tower can't be stolen.
 
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[X] Magister Patriarch Algard

Ok, I will reply to everything I want to reply even if it was before the update. This thread is moving too fast, you cannot even sleep without getting 20 pages of backlog, but I won't let that stop me from replying to stuff said 15 pages ago, before the update even happened.

Glau said:
t occurs to me, phrased like this, exactly how large of a target we have made ourselves. It's Ranald's grave that there are no organized enemies near, else a rich, isolated, low-population city-state would be bait for every faction with loot in their eyes. As it is though, we do know the skaven have an eye on us, and the sudden ascent in power means that as soon as it really starts to filter through their spies how the rest of the world is treating us, we become a threat.

So I think we are going to have a lull, to be social and vacation and enchant and study. But then we are going to be hit from as many sides and as many threats as can be roped in.

...ok I've kinda talked myself into dealing with the nearby orcs soon ish. Hmmm.
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Killing everything that was a threat nearby may also have played a part to the absence of threats nearby.

Redshirt Army said:
I mean, I think that's the surest sign that someone is getting close to the point of a promotion to Lord Magister - when the change in title comes with a ton of additional responsibilities and not many extra perks.
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I am pretty sure that being given the right to learn battle magic at will without becoming a BM was pretty much an admission of "you are on the council, but (due to politics and/or lack of the technical qualification of experience) we do not (yet) grant you the rank of Lord Magister". I mean, we have several legendary feats under us, it is not inconceivable that they would lead any boss into pragmatically promoting us into a LM in all but name before we are old enough for that title.
 
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Alratan said:
A tower on top of a mountain is basically impossible to target with artillery at this tech level and for the foreseeable future. You try dragging a cannon up to the top of a mountain. It's essentially impossible.

A spell that lasts indefinitely can be used offensively anyway as the transformed person can just fly where they need to be, and a tower can't be stolen.
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Artillery in this context including "big battle-magic like spells involving stuff like comets" and "big flying things like Ice Dragons or other things like Dragons, that can cast big comet spells or equivalent"

I should have been less lazy in my word choice in my reply to you, and regret that now.
Alratan said:
spell that lasts indefinitely
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Ah, I see you have found my implicit assumption!

There was also a bit about "stick in in a vehicle that is covered in runes that mask the magic coming from the alter inside it (maybe spelleater)?" that allows for surprise!dragon, which would be pretty cool, but again, was lazy.

I'm confident however that you can find the reasoning for and against it being a tower vs altar earlier in the tread, explored more thoughtfully than I am prepared to religitate here, which this post has reached the limits of.
 
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storryeater said:
I am pretty sure that being given the right to learn battle magic at will without becoming a BM was pretty much an admission of "you are on the council, but (due to politics and/or lack of the technical qualification of experience) we do not (yet) grant you the rank of Lord Magister". I mean, we have several legendary feats under us, it is not inconceivable that they would lead any boss into pragmatically promoting us into a LM in all but name before we are old enough for that title.
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I'm... not quite sure why you qouted me here. This has nothing to do with what I was saying.
 
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