Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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The Fay Enchantress and her exact relationship with power and authority is rather difficult to describe. Technically, she has none. In reality, she has a lot, because of the assumption her words are backed up by the Lady. Notably, this power almost certainly doesn't cross borders. Everyone else will view her as the High Priestess of a foreign goddess and nothing more. She likely lacks the ability to negotiate treaties or declare war unilaterally for example.
And beyond that, outside of the Lady's priesthood, women have very little equality in Bretonnia. They can't inherit, can't be nobles, can't fight. Bretonnia is not great on social equality at any level because it's a feudal society.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
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Do we actually need that much personal intervention? We pretty much only got involved with the EIC because we didn't trust how large they had become and needed guidance to deal with the dwarves. Setting up a bank with seed money is something they already should have an idea how to do.
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As far as I know even Grey apprentices are bound by that vow. Meaning that we made that vow when we were less than ten years old. Where our other option was, after almost being burned at the stake by our own family, to become an Altdorf orphan that constantly has someone ready to execute them if they do more accidental magic I guess? Which, by the way, would also happen if we publicly disavow now.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about keeping a vow a preteen made under duress any more than we have to to get by.
What? I knew they couldn't be noble rulers, but I still thought that, say, an orphan noblewoman was considered a prime marriage prospect or whatever if she didn't have any brothers. And that noble women can still legally shit on peasants.
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Wizards do chose their College to some extent - the Wind they can practice isn't fixed at the start. If Mathilde wasn't suitable for Uglu it is likely she would have gone to another College.
Likewise life of poverty is overstating things - Mathilde's peasant family lived a life of poverty, whilst Mathilde lived an upper class life even when she was a journeywoman with a lot of debt to her name.
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How much of that was actually the choice of little Mathilde though? If she had told Regimand that she prefers gold over grey or whatever, what would have happened? Was she even made aware of the other colleges and their pros and cons at a time where switching was still an option?
How does switching even work for apprentices without any arcane marks?
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I'm making a distinction that might not be clear from reading to be fair. They can be nobility, but not nobles. They don't, from what I remember, hold titles in their own right. So they can have 'status' but not power. And even then their status is lesser than a man of the same rank.
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deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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Oh, Joan of Arc doesn't count and you know it.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Aren't the various elven polities pretty good on the gender equality form?
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It's a bit odd, isn't it? Fairly unlikely bit of speculation here, but: It's possible Belegar knows or found out that the Rites of Valaya (close-enough name for it?) are powered by runes in KaK, and is planning to set up a K8P version then use Waystone research to turn off or meter out the amount of magic K8P sends to KaK. The best place for the runes powering the Rites of Valaya of course being the future Temple of Valaya.
It is hard to say how much Mathilde knew without word of Boney but it is quite likely that she could have switched early on without much fuss. It is very likely that the Grey College (and every other College for the matter) try to retain talented apprentices, but at the same time they're probably not going to want to create resentment or antagonize their peers.
For switching apprentices take a break from a Wind and then slowly attune with another over a couple months.
Which one was yours? Because equally as likely as you doing something I didn't like are "I missed it" or "I accidentally deleted it while deleting the quote tags."
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She is the dubiusly canonical exception that proves the rule. Even in the (only) tabletop edition that she appeared in she was noted as being the only one of her kind.
Yes. Thats fair I said old world and I ment human. The Asrai of Athel Loren are completely gender equal and we don't know enough about the Eonir but I suspect the same.
Outside the old world the Asur used to be matriarchal before the fall of the chaos gates and have been about equal to the Empire since then. While the Druchii are all equal beneath Malekith's pointy boot heel. (Important note that witchelves and sorcerresses are the exception and most female and male Druchii dress equally silly with the spiky armour and the exposed skin in cold tempretures.)
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My own take is that we can play silent partner, but it means we lose control of how the bank develops day to day. This means the Bank will not necessarily develop in ways that we would want, unless we directly sink an organization half AP into the project.
So yes, it probably would work like the EIC. However because its probably going to increase the number of things BoneyM has to plan and update per turn, it also means that it may well work like one of our big research projects such as the Aethyric Vitae, with multiple development stages before it becomes free to deter people simply adding another organization for nothing.
In other words, its not AP free, and in the context of AP starvation, probably going to get thrown onto the backlog even if BoneyM accepts the suggestion and makes it an action.
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Speaking of romance and Johann, I'm thinking of a write-in along these lines come the next social turn. Thoughts? I think it could go hileriously poorly given our terrible diplo. 
[] Fed up of waiting for Johann to make the first move (and having run out of Skaven to rob as "dates") Mathilde starts courting him instead. What could go wrong?
[] Fed up of waiting for Johann to make the first move (and having run out of Skaven to rob as "dates") Mathilde starts courting him instead. What could go wrong?
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The spirit of the vow is "don't get too cocky and use your abilities for personal wealth while hurting the Empire", so we are haven't broken that, and the letter of the vow is riddled with loopholes on purpose. As such, I do not mind our wealth, as long as it continues to jump on our boat.
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Speaking of romance and Johann, I'm thinking of a write-in along these lines come thwe next social turn. Thoughts? I think it could go hileriously poorly given our terrible diplo.
I'd vote for this, may Ranald bless us.
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...but we don't do plan voting in the social turns? At least I didn't think we did.
have I been doing it wrong the whole time!
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Well, we might end up in a romantic relationship with Johann, which sounds pretty bad to me.
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Plans, write ins, options, whatever....but we don't do plan voting in the social turns? At least I didn't think we did.
Used the wrong word.
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Not really. If an experiment can be partially outsourced I'll add options for it in the vote, but with most of what Mathilde researches, it would take longer to bring another person up to speed than their help could possibly save. This isn't modern science with standardized equipment, formalized procedures and iterative research, this is the era of trailblazers. And if there is a need for grunt work, Mathilde is more likely to rope in a Ducklings or an Undumgi than she is to bring in someone from the other side of the world. If there's a constant need for grunt work, that's what a regular Apprentice can bring to the table.
The sort of Perepetual that might be of use to Mathilde isn't a grunt worker, they're hyper-specialists in specific areas that don't require raw magical power. If the thread seems to be interested in hiring or moulding someone like that, I'll add it to the list.
Depends entirely on what they're being expected to do.
Mathilde would argue that it's never possible to completely trust someone you've never met.
There's an entire Karag full of cheap labour that Mathilde will call on if it would help. Finding busywork to fill the hours of someone you've hired even though it's beneath their skills is super likely to foster resentment.
No, for College Favour hiring cost is based on who's being hired, not who's doing the hiring. Dwarf Favour has discounts because their favour economy is less an economy and more a matter of honour.
Six months at a time is the norm.
While this is potentially viable as an economic gambit, if you're nervous about your Vow of Poverty, creating a chain of banks is probably not the direction to be going in.
The process uses literal gold, but the result is not literal gold, it is conceptual gold. The gilded body parts are not turned to solid metal, they are idealized, and they're still warm, malleable, and functional.