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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Fanhunter696 said:
By the way speaking of languages, if in the aftermath of the get the same selection of traits as we did and the end of K8P expedition we should pick collegiate to alleviate the AP hell, and polyglot, which makes us learn languages 3 times faster, meaning we can drastically expand the bonus we got from our library...
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There'll probably be unique traits for event-related bonuses, and the thread will zero in on those because they'll be cooler.

Collegiate is a really strong trait, and could easily make the pick, but I don't think Polyglot is special enough to stand out.
Garlak said:
Secondly... Well. The Breeders. We'll probably have an idea of how fast they can restore their numbers.
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I got the impression the empire already knew about them (there was a note about an academic inaccuracy concerning their tenders). What new information would we be able to supply (besides anatomy)?
 
If we cordon off the mountain, for how long to we want to leave it alone?

If we wait until the Waaagh is over, then the Orcs can walk into a mostly empty mountain, which I think is definitely bad.

Or will we want to move into the mountain soon to make sure there are no Skaven left? In that case I would prefer to resolve the situation now while the Skaven are still fighting each other and are hunted by the Dragon.

I am also not even sure we can deal with the mountain later, but before the Waaagh:
BoneyM said:
This is the last chance to intervene in the Karag Yar conflict. Only one can be chosen.
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picklepikkl said:
Maybe? Not worth delaying the rest, though; I'm not saying never investigate it and publish it, just that we shouldn't hold off on publishing a mostly-complete highly-strategically-valuable dictionary because the least relevant thing isn't there.
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The thing is that we are going to have lots of papers to write after this battle that, unlike the Skaven Lexicon, is going to fade... And I am pretty sure the thread will focus on those which are more time sensitive.

So why not take the chance to deepen our understanding of Quekish in the meanwhile and publish the Big Book of Quekish two turns from now?
 
Gingganz said:
If we cordon off the mountain, for how long to we want to leave it alone?
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I think it's to cordon if off until one faction has finished off the other, and with how badly whittled down the two sides are, that's only going to take another hour.

At which point we'll probably get some decisions on what to do depending on who won (though if Mors wins, we might not have to make a decision, as Mors is likely to walk back home and be surprised to find Dwarves waiting for them.)
 
Fanhunter696 said:
The thing is that we are going to have lots of papers to write after this battle that, unlike the Skaven Lexicon, is going to fade... And I am pretty sure the thread will focus on those which are more time sensitive.

So why not take the chance to deepen our understanding of Quekish in the meanwhile and publish the Big Book of Quekish two turns from now?
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I mean, this presupposes that we get magical writings. It's not clear that we'll capture any documents that we can even learn the magical lexicon from. Like, if we get the chance to include it for basically free, then sure, definitely let's do that, but if not, we shouldn't delay the project by hunting around for magical documents just out of a sake of completionism.
 
picklepikkl said:
I mean, this presupposes that we get magical writings. It's not clear that we'll capture any documents that we can even learn the magical lexicon from. Like, if we get the chance to include it for basically free, then sure, definitely let's do that, but if not, we shouldn't delay the project by hunting around for magical documents just out of a sake of completionism.
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There is a decent chance of getting some, we are basically sacking the whole Yar and Zilfin...

And before starting the dictionary we should pick the Linguist and try to get spoken Quekish, if that way our final product is going to be much better
 
[X] Cordon the mountain off and wash your hands of the whole business.

Why are we trying to assassinate someone who likely has us in a bag regarding assassinations again?
 
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Omegahugger said:
So why aren't you voting for Mathilde to use her entire arsenal and remove both Eshin and Mors from the equation?
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Because IIRC your version of 'entire arsenal' includes proscribed magic that will see Mathilde censured and/or executed by every faction from K8P to Ostland. While I appreciate your ... energetic enthusiasm for dhar use, I don't share it. ;)
 
Fanhunter696 said:
And before starting the dictionary we should pick the Linguist and try to get spoken Quekish, if that way our final product is going to be much better
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See, I just don't see the point in investing Linguist + Deceiver Coin + multiple AP over several turns to get spoken Queekish if we succeed in getting the skaven out of Eight Peaks, compared to literally all the other things we can doing with more relevance to a fully reconquered K8P. Like, back when we were looking at a continuing shadow-war against them, absolutely, it made sense, but now it's just much less time-critical, and compared to things like Bok, Aethyric Vitae, dealing with dragons, or studying divine energy, I think the marginal payoff of spoken Queekish is smaller. Being able to decode captured communications is already a huge win.
 
After we crush out the last of the organized Skaven resistance, my understanding is that we'll be sweeping through all of the mountains with our throng in order to close off Caldera-side entrances.

That'll keep the orcs out of them for the few hours until they all manage to get inside the Karak, and then we start pushing the button and refuse to stop until they're gone. The orcs likely to have been hiding in the shadow of the Caldera we'll have to deal with using Kragg and Thorek (and Max on his gyrocopter, finally), but even though they'll be a respectable force which would be very intimidating (even one percent is, like, ten thousand orcs), two RuneLords On Their Anvils Of Doom sound like the sort of thing that can deal with them (and if they run out of the shadow we can zap them again).
 
chocolote12 said:
I got the impression the empire already knew about them (there was a note about an academic inaccuracy concerning their tenders). What new information would we be able to supply (besides anatomy)?
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Uh... possibly everything. I think. They've previously been the province of rumor and theory; the Empire has an idea that "Skaven numbers are crazy because of... breeders, I think."

Now, we have the chance to get answers on how many of them a clan might have, how long they can last, how many Skaven might be born, what kind of chemicals go into them (or keeping them alive). Even how they actually look like for sure.
 
picklepikkl said:
See, I just don't see the point in investing Linguist + Deceiver Coin + multiple AP over several turns to get spoken Queekish if we succeed in getting the skaven out of Eight Peaks, compared to literally all the other things we can doing with more relevance to a fully reconquered K8P.
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Maybe in K8P won´t be as relevant, but for the rest of the world to be able to understand spoken Queekish means that they can spy or without needing to steal documents, interrogate prisoners without depending on their prisoner's literacy, or infiltrate with doppelganger and not being blown out immediately if someone ask anything ... which is pretty critical on espionage operations.

Many people dismiss spoken Queekish but it is an extremely important asset against the Skaven for any of its enemies (which in this case it is the whole world).
 
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Garlak said:
how long they can last, how many Skaven might be born, what kind of chemicals go into them (or keeping them alive).
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We don't know these, I don't think? We're going to kill them before they die on their own, none of them are having kids around us, and all the Skaven who know how to maintain them died elsewhere.
 
picklepikkl said:
Again: not saying never do this, just that delaying publication of the general, military, technical, and medical lexicons because we don't have the magic one is silly.
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The problem I have is that we are the specialist on the ground, with the rare and perishable materials, all the tools and resources we could need and it is our current task. The way I see it the magical lexicon is likely to come together with the spoken version so if not now then when besides never ?
 
SakSak said:
Hmm.
A nickname for it could be something like:
Agrulbok: Scar carved in stone from hitting your head on a low ceiling
Bokskrund: Accidentally hitting your head on a low ceiling, but nevertheless working hard/cleaving the rock in so doing.
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Bokskrund! Bokskrund! It's cute sounding somehow
 
Just call him Bok, everyone is going to call him Bok eventually, so we might as well soften the blow by being starting it, let it be an affectionate nickname.
 
dunk1010 said:
Bokskrund, I want Bokskrund!

It is AWSOME!
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das_slash said:
Just call him Bok, everyone is going to call him Bok eventually, so we might as well soften the blow by being starting it, let it be an affectionate nickname.
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Geebee said:
Bokskrund! Bokskrund! It's cute sounding somehow
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its using "Bok" in the same way as an AI might say "Error" or "File not Found" I don't think its a very good basis for a name.

How would you like it if the next time you couldnt find something everyone just starting calling you "Ol Forgetful" or "Fuckup" all the time? its rude
 
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Still looking forward to this, overhead in Kraggs workshop:

"Hrmm. Who made you? I'll have to write to all the Loremasters." Kragg scowls at the world in general, the elemental standing behind him in particular.
"Bok."
Kragg twitches, mutters to self "What do your Runes look like?"
"Bok."
Kragg spins round, hefts his runehammer.
"Say. Bok. Again. I dare you. I double dare you, grobilover. Say Bok one more Ancestor-damned time!"
 
Alliterate said:
Still looking forward to this, overhead in Kraggs workshop:

"Hrmm. Who made you? I'll have to write to all the Loremasters." Kragg scowls at the world in general, the elemental standing behind him in particular.
"Bok."
Kragg twitches, mutters to self "What do your Runes look like?"
"Bok."
Kragg spins round, hefts his runehammer.
"Say. Bok. Again. I dare you. I double dare you, grobilover. Say Bok one more Ancestor-damned time!"
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Kragg? Destroy a irriplaceable example of Golden Age runecraft? Not happening. :V
 
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