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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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On the topic of the Skaven mechanical reference library, have we shown that to any dwarven engineers yet? I don't think so but I might be not remembering. I'd imagine they could get a hell of a lot of mileage out of it, if not for many ideas they actually want to adopt then for being able to find weak spots to wreck the Skaven machines with.

I'd imagine Nuln engineers would likely get more knowledge out of the library, at least the non-warpstone stuff.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
"I deciphered the secret language used by the largest, most secretive, most dangerous enemy we have. Something no one has accomplished in the thousands of years they have plagued the world" should also probably make the cut.
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Something funny about this is that, since NO ONE has managed to learn Queekish in thousands of years, there is going to be wide interest on this book far beyond the Empire and Karaz Ankor

We may find someday a Skink Priest knocking at our door and politely asking for a copy of the Book...
 
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TaliesinSkye said:
Perhaps battle magic requires lots of wind because the nature-changing process isn't very efficient?

But no, that still sort of echoes the conservation of energy paradigm. To get away from it completely there would need to be some sort of alternate justification entirely for why lots of wind was required if not for more power for a larger effect.
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My best guess would be that greater concentrations of Winds strengthens the conceptual effects associated with them. It just so happens that when a spell is focused on minor conceptual relations, like flight would be considered for Ulgu, you require battlemagic worthy amounts of the Wind to cast it, while something like Pit of Shadows takes about the same amount of Winds, but is much more devestating and powerful because its conceptual effect was shadows, a much more mainline Ulgu concept.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
But if the wind isn't needed for energy then why does the larger quantity correlated with more powerful effects?
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Why does a larger quantity of sand build a larger sandcastle?

Maybe the more wind the more you can conceptually affect with it? But that feels like a restatement of the energy paradigm.
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Conservation of energy is a specific thing, in our world you always end up with the same amount afterwards as you had beforehand.

When you use a spell to make a bonfire burn without you're producing more energy than using the same amount of magic to make a candle without fuel - you don't end up with the same amount of anything afterwards as when you started.
 
kingreaper said:
When you use a spell to make a bonfire burn without you're producing more energy than using the same amount of magic to make a candle without fuel - you don't end up with the same amount of anything afterwards as when you started.
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I'm sorry, I think maybe you accidentally a few words here? I'm having trouble understanding what you meant.
 
Ericwinter said:
You know, I was having random thoughts about shipping Mathilde with Belegar earlier, especially if she managed to get him most or all of his Karak back in one fell swoop. I wonder, could a Jade Wizard or Shallyan help with that?
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Probably not. They can increase fertility, but making two different species able to reproduce is... well, that's really hard, and if anyone can do it, it's Chaos. No go.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
I'm sorry, I think maybe you accidentally a few words here? I'm having trouble understanding what you meant.
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I did indeed miss one two words.

When you use a spell to make a bonfire burn without fuel you're producing more energy than using the same amount of magic to make a candle burn without fuel - you don't end up with the same amount of anything afterwards as when you started.

Apparently I am too tired to write good.
 
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kingreaper said:
I did indeed miss one word.

When you use a spell to make a bonfire burn without fuel you're producing more energy than using the same amount of magic to make a candle without fuel - you don't end up with the same amount of anything afterwards as when you started.
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Ah, thank you. That's a big help.
 
TBH, I'm more worried about the Warp-Lightning Cannon, even though it's broken now. I don't think we brought any artillery with us to the Under-Caldera, and I'm worried about how many Dwarves died to it before it misfired.
 
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