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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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so I suspect we are going to rush the under citadel, and from there we can either raid the caldera or maybe march overland and take karag yar before mors can dig in. it would be a new front, but it would stop mors from getting too swole.
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We could also raid the caldera to the point Mors moves everything valuable to Yar, giving us less fronts to fight in the underway.

Would depend on whatever is in Mhonar.
 
BoneyM said:
there's at most ten thousand Skaven remaining in the Under-Caldera, and that's if they assume that everywhere they couldn't personally observe is filled wall to wall with Skaven. You doubt there can be more than five. They also report the same thing you noticed in Karag Yar: no slaves. The lowest-ranking member of the local hierarchy they've witnessed is some of the scrawnier Clanrats.
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… Mors' Desperation modifier. Could they have been so desperate that they went to all their Skavenslaves and said "Okay, you're all Clanrats now, and will keep that rank if we survive this war"?

In any case, about 5,000 Skaven? Sounds vulnerable enough to strike to me. Hell, we'll have the Dwarves outnumbering the Skaven.
 
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Well that went about as well as could reasonably be expected. Significantly above average rolls on everything but where the mystery went and the trolls deciding to ruin broken toof day rather than Mors day.

We have our position. Now we strike.

I'd reccomend one ranger team on the ongoing Mors-Eshin battle, one attached to the Caldera assault team ahead of us and the last to either get news of Skyre and the dragon or seek out the mystery.
 
Well, that was a decisive battle, alright.


Scouting the Caldera gave us force estimates. Did we also get any information on -- well, on their infrastructure? Their valuable stuff that we need to burn or destroy and so on and so forth?

Or is there little of value in the Caldera, somehow?
BoneyM said:
The unexpected blitz from above takes the few defends remaining by complete surprise
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"defenders" I think

And now I'm probably off to sleep finally. Whee. Or... soon, anyway.
 
BoneyM said:
according to the Rangers that were scouting instead of intercepting messages, there's at most ten thousand Skaven remaining in the Under-Caldera, and that's if they assume that everywhere they couldn't personally observe is filled wall to wall with Skaven. You doubt there can be more than five. They also report the same thing you noticed in Karag Yar: no slaves. The lowest-ranking member of the local hierarchy they've witnessed is some of the scrawnier Clanrats.
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Time to rush in as fast as possible and lock Mors up with the Eshin.
 
BoneyM said:
[Assault on the Under-Citadel: Martial, 82+23+5(Strategy: Skaven)+5(Warrior of Fog: Surprise Attack)=115 vs ???.]
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Ooooh, good rolls... Steamroll in fact.
BoneyM said:
[Message interception: Intrigue, 69+22+5(Tactics: Skaven)+5(Warrior of Fog: Ambushes)=101 vs ???.]
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And the ones in Karagril does their magic as well.
BoneyM said:
That doesn't mean they're not hunkering down of their own initiative, or as best they can with the few forces that remain; according to the Rangers that were scouting instead of intercepting messages, there's at most ten thousand Skaven remaining in the Under-Caldera, and that's if they assume that everywhere they couldn't personally observe is filled wall to wall with Skaven. You doubt there can be more than five. They also report the same thing you noticed in Karag Yar: no slaves. The lowest-ranking member of the local hierarchy they've witnessed is some of the scrawnier Clanrats.
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I think we have confirmation here that Mors took every Rat and Slave and made for Karag Yar. The Caldera is wide open, but I don't think we should take it yet. What we Could do is to make a raid on the Caldera and kill all the breeders that they're hopefully hiding there... or that Desperation they're attacking Eshin with, do they have any Breeders left?
BoneyM said:
While that would certainly be true against the crude weapons of the greenskins they'd be used to preying on, the discipline of the Undumgi and the strength of the ancient Dwarven polearms proved superior and only mild casualties are reported. The Bolt Throwers are set up at the avenues leading to the cistern and to the peak, and the Underway to Karag Mhonar has been fortified.
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Oof... Not what we had hoped, but the Undumgi stands tall. But that should mean that Under-Kvinn-Wyr is open for the taking.
 
... I really don't like this. We need to find out what this last variable is, because it's enough to scare/lure hundreds, maybe even thousands of trolls out of their entrenched lairs. But how would they know it was moving? If it was magic, Mat should have sensed it. It was also living right next to the dragon, and didn't seem to care all that much.
 
This turn went well, assuming Mhonar mystery did not reposition to fuck us over next turn.

Sounds like Caldera is wide open for an attack, and Esshin and Mors are about to be bottled in upper-Yar and under Yar respectively, as planned. Good.
 
Garlak said:
Scouting the Caldera gave us force estimates. Did we also get any information on -- well, on their infrastructure? Their valuable stuff that we need to burn or destroy and so on and so forth?
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Not really. Rangers aren't Mathilde, if there's enough eyes watching they can't get past it, and the remaining guards are very closely defending all paths leading into the Trench that is the heart of their power.
 
Yeah, alright, 5K Skaven in total holding the entire Caldera means we might actually be able to pull off the magical christmasland scenario where we claim it.

The lack of slaves is concerning, though, as is the apparent lack of breeders, so let's not be too hasty.

E: Ah, that WoG explains it. The Trench is gonna have a lot of elites guarding it, bear in mind - the best of the best that Mors could keep in reserve. And while the leadership dealing with Eshin doesn't know about us, that's not true for the Trench.

It'll be a small garrison of elites fighting to the desperate end against a vastly numerically superior foe - nice to see the Skaven in the other side of that for a change.
 
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I think that we could take some rangers to see what is happening in Zilfin and Mhonar.

It is not like we need too much scouting right now.
 
@BoneyM, so the Under-Karagril force is free to use? The immediate fighting has stopped, and now they're just preparing fortifications and ballista for when either Mors' line breaks or the Orcs stop attacking?
 
TempestK said:
... I really don't like this. We need to find out what this last variable is, because it's enough to scare/lure hundreds, maybe even thousands of trolls out of their entrenched lairs. But how would they know it was moving? If it was magic, Mat should have sensed it. It was also living right next to the dragon, and didn't seem to care all that much.
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It is a long way from the dragon and Mat though. Several kilometres away.
 
It would be prudent to check the sentinels, they are behind our new front line and it would be wise move to properly secure them as well.
 
BoneyM said:
[Assault on the Under-Citadel: Martial, 82+23+5(Strategy: Skaven)+5(Warrior of Fog: Surprise Attack)=115 vs ???.]

Though both Abelhelm and King Belegar tended to lead from the front, you resist the urge to follow their example and instead position yourself as centrally as possible to be the nexus of incoming information and outgoing orders. The unexpected blitz from above takes the few defends remaining by complete surprise, and their entire line of defence collapses almost at once, and the crossbows of Karak Izor and Braganza's Besiegers ensured that it didn't help reduce casualties. You also know that not all those that escaped the quarrels would be reinforcing the Under-Caldera, because you'd had a word with the We on your way past, and though the concept of warfare was still beyond them, they understood opportunity.
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Nothing had changed, and we rolled well! Thank goodness.
BoneyM said:
[Message interception: Intrigue, 69+22+5(Tactics: Skaven)+5(Warrior of Fog: Ambushes)=101 vs ???.]

The Rangers that aren't remaining in place until ordered otherwise report back, and it appears things went as well as you could have hoped. Assuming there's no routes you didn't find while scouting or dug since then, you're reasonably certain word hasn't reached the Clan Mors forces that are presumably still locked in combat with Clan Eshin. That doesn't mean they're not hunkering down of their own initiative, or as best they can with the few forces that remain; according to the Rangers that were scouting instead of intercepting messages, there's at most ten thousand Skaven remaining in the Under-Caldera, and that's if they assume that everywhere they couldn't personally observe is filled wall to wall with Skaven. You doubt there can be more than five. They also report the same thing you noticed in Karag Yar: no slaves. The lowest-ranking member of the local hierarchy they've witnessed is some of the scrawnier Clanrats.
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Oh, excellent! It's very likely that this has gone off without a hitch.
BoneyM said:
A problem for later. For now, everything is going just as you hoped it would, and all you have to do is distribute the orders for the next stage of the battle.
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BoneyM said:
This is a map of the underground portions of Karak Eight Peaks. Everything not listed as 'above' is in the 'Under' portion of wherever they are. This is all based on IC information, and is only as reliable as the sources Mathilde has for each piece of the puzzle.

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Hmmm.

We saw Eshin was fighting Mors in Yar last turn, so I'm confident nothing major has changed there (though we don't know how the battle is going.) We haven't heard from Under-Karagil yet, but things are probably going okay there.

We aren't entirely sure about Karag Rhyn, though we think the trolls have gone there. It's a bit odd that the greenskins haven't come out except to charge across the Caldera - they weren't noted to be attacking the Under-Caldera, so it seems likely that they're fighting each other, though that's not guaranteed. It'd be stupid, but their god of Cunning isn't quite what he used to be.

The two big wildcards are Zilfin and Mhonar. We haven't seen the dragon or Skaven since the former went to deal with the latter, but it's been a while - I suspect the dragon might show itself soon.

The other is Mhonar-

OH SHIT.

The Sentinels are empty. The Sentinels have been empty since before we got here. Mhonar's mystery isn't bunkering down, there's a passageway to the Sentinels!
 
Chimeraguard said:
… Mors' Desperation modifier. Could they have been so desperate that they went to all their Skavenslaves and said "Okay, you're all Clanrats now, and will keep that rank if we survive this war"?

In any case, at most 10,000 Skaven, probably significantly less? Sounds vulnerable enough to strike to me.
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That or the Skavenslaves have become rations.

BoneyM said:
Which then raises the questions of what happened to the Karag Mhonar mystery?
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What the hell what the hell what the hell.

This has been bugging me for some time. SOMETHING was keeping those Trolls contained, other then general laziness, and they just vanished?

It's not the Dragon, nor would Orcs and Skaven keep them contained. If anything, they'd flock that way.

Has to be something big enough to keep all those Trolls contained-

How uh, certain are we that there is no other way out from there?
 
Given that our last estimate of Mors was victory in 1-2 hours, one hour ago, I'm in favor of sending some forces with the ranger to split Clan Mor attention properly, now that we've got a decent foothold.
 
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