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Mind you, the odds of avoiding that are still not good (I assume like 40% of all Necromancers wanted to bring back their loved ones) but they should be better.
I always assumed it was more like 80%. The main 2 things necromancy can do better than standard dhar are 1)raise loved ones, or 2)create an army of corpses. The first one is a viable motivation for anyone, while the second is not that common a life goal outside of Slyvania.
The Empire rules and the Vampire Counts drool! It cost us more blood then it should have considering the incompetence of the enemies leadership but we have won the greatest imperial victory over the forces of the undead sense the Battle of Hel Fen over 200 years ago in quest. She is a Stirlander, lets go home recover and get read for the next campaign in to Sylvania to continue what we have started.

Vald's soul must be screaming where ever it is at the incompetence of his get, I mean hell the skeletons did more damage to us then the actual heavy hitters of the vamps and the "Countess" was in the end a complete failure.
[ ] The campaign is over, but your duty to Stirland remains. Go home to Wurtbad.
This was almost certainly not an actual descendant of Vlad.
 
Hmmm, I think there might be grounds for a bit of complaint there under the Articles of Imperial Magic:
8. The Colleges must respond favourably to any reasonable request for specific service from any Elector of Sigmar's Holy Empire.
9. The Colleges must be ready to render service to the armies of the Emperor and the Electors of the Empire upon request, unless (irrelevant exceptions).
Of course there's leeway and interpretation here, but "Vampire Count causing trouble, please send wizards to support army" seems reasonable to me.
Well, the Amethysts sent three of their biggest hitters, and the Lights had a Magister representative. The only colleges asked sent someone, so it's a judgement of what 'respond favourably' and 'render service' mean. (Now, the Theogonist on the other hand...)

That the Patriarch went off after some (probably) Terrible Ancient Necromantic Evil below the town, after the Elector Count died... well, if in his judgment 'service' is trying to prevent that falling into the wrong hands, or animating and attacking the besieging army on the back... well, that's pretty much his call?

None of that means Mathilde needs to view those two Colleges favourably.
 
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@Exmorri @Khepri14 What is this Karak Ungor thing you speak of?

You're saying she was bit by someone who wasn't bit by Vlad or any of the ones Vlad bit, or any of the ones they bit and so on? I thought the majority of Sylvanian vampires come from his bloodline.
??? The...2 or 3 IRL Year Campaign that Toarror ran in his Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism? Have you really never read it? Its one of the biggest and most popular quests on the site.
 
@Exmorri @Khepri14 What is this Karak Ungor thing you speak of?

You're saying she was bit by someone who wasn't bit by Vlad or any of the ones Vlad bit, or any of the ones they bit and so on? I thought the majority of Sylvanian vampires come from his bloodline.
Ah, right, she's probably of his bloodline in a that sense. I was referring to her claim of being part of the main Von Carstien line like Mannfred (and thus being a "legitimate" elector countess), as opposed to being just a random person who was turned by another vamp.
 
Hopefully, Mathilde doesn't develop a distrust towards humans. She currently works in the most powerful human nation that is also one of the greatest shields against Chaos.
 
First we find out who fucked up in the battle and deal with them. That should do some good for our girl's mid set. Then we can find out why we did not get support from certain groups that we should have gotten it from.
 
[X] First Things First: Go to Wurtbad, have a good cry, and get some hugs. Decide what to do with your life later.
I'm kind of curious as to why people keep voting for this. It's not actually one of the voting options and there's no write in option available here and it doesn't actually add anything to the return to Wurtbad option.

Also on separate note I don't really see Mathilde as the sort of person to collapse into useless self pity and crying fits. She's a total badass wizard knight spy, not an eight year old who can't handle having someone close to her die.

She's already spilt her tears for Van Hal and will probably spill more at his funeral but it hardly needs a write-in action. Sure she'll probably commiserate with Wilhelmina about how much it sucks that Van Hal died (and how lame Kasmir is) but I don't think we need to write-in 'get some hugs' and I'm not sure they're the type to go around hugging anyway (although Anton might be).
 
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I'm kind of curious as to why people keep voting for this. It's not actually one of the voting options and there's no write in option available here and it doesn't actually add anything to the return to Wurtbad option.

Also on separate note I don't really see Mathilde as the sort of person to collapse into useless self pity and crying fits. She's a total badass wizard knight spy, not an eight year old who can't handle having someone close to her die.

She's already spilt her tears for Van Hal and will probably spill more at his funeral but it hardly needs a write-in action. Sure she'll probably commiserate with Wilhelmina about how much it sucks that Van Hal died (and how lame Kasmir is) but I don't think we need to write-in 'get some hugs' and I'm not sure they're the type to go around hugging anyway (although Anton might be).
I can't speak for everyone; but I'm picking it because it puts off the decision as a point of characterization. We don't know the next elector count or whether they will want us, which makes the decision of whether to ride off into the night seem premature and a bit reckless. Making this decision when we have no idea how Wartbad and most of our remaining friends are doing feels really weird and this is my way of rebelling against that.

Having what amounts to a request for some fluff about how the other characters are reacting to Van Hal's death while we also see how things shake out too make a more informed choice about our future doesn't strike me as too ridiculous.
 
Also on separate note I don't really see Mathilde as the sort of person to collapse into useless self pity and crying fits.

It's kinda fucked up that you equate having a good cry and seeking support of friends after what she went through as "collapsing into useless self pity". Either you never lost someone really important, or you have been far too hard on yourself, or you happen to not be neurotypical nor know how neurotypical people cope with loss successfully.
 
But the necromancers fucked up the same as Stirland mages? Unless Dhar also seeks to ruin itself, which makes the resolution to study Dhar even more puzzling.
Dhar seeks to ruin itself. Even True Dhar users do that.
Dhar is ALSO good at breaking rules, it gives ready power at no price and great risks.
It sounds like Wilhelmina was mostly using Zhufbar for the supply lines (they'd be much shorter, too) so we were probably using dwarven gunpowder, I.e. probably a more reliable mix.
Makes sense if we're using dwarf powder.
As you're one of the key plan makers, a thought:
Nominally, our obligation to our hidden handlers ended with Van Hal, though Boney said they'd probably try to continue to pull our strings if we'd continue as Spymaster. I think also, probably, if we stay in Stirland.
If we want to get out from under our hidden masters, it's probably (a little) harder for whoever it is to secretly order a full Magister around, than a Journeywoman. We'd also probably be in a better position to tell them to get stuffed, if they try to bring us back into the fold.

I think we should make Magister a priority, after the immediate aftermath, but before the new Status Quo emerges.
Already considered, its not.
Our Master is a full Magister and HE is also under their command.

I'm wondering if it isn't the Grey Patriarch having picked up a Needless Complexity tic.
And find out if Julia merely failed randomly with the gossip network or there was hostile action (and if so, whether it was external sabotage or Julia pocketing the money). And perhaps get around to seeing Detlef more than two days a year, we've ignored that man an impressively long time. So many people to investigate...
I would point out Occam's Razor. Julia has shitty Stewardship and we assigned her on a moneymaking task. She might well have simply estimated the costs and returns wrongly.
Hmmm, I think there might be grounds for a bit of complaint there under the Articles of Imperial Magic:
8. The Colleges must respond favourably to any reasonable request for specific service from any Elector of Sigmar's Holy Empire.
9. The Colleges must be ready to render service to the armies of the Emperor and the Electors of the Empire upon request, unless (irrelevant exceptions).
Of course there's leeway and interpretation here, but "Vampire Count causing trouble, please send wizards to support army" seems reasonable to me.
They did send wizards, but it was less 'sent' and more "Oh I got a personal interest/I'm bored, I'm coming!"
 
[X ] The campaign is over, so your duty to Stirland is fulfilled. Go home to Altdorf.

If the newly elected count wants us, he or she can ask for us, just like Val Hal did. In the meantime, we have research to do!
 
[X] The campaign is over, but your duty to Stirland remains. Go home to Wurtbad.
 
[X ] The campaign is over, so your duty to Stirland is fulfilled. Go home to Altdorf.

If the newly elected count wants us, he or she can ask for us, just like Val Hal did. In the meantime, we have research to do!

Your vote won't count. You have a space in the brackets.

Van Hal didn't ask us. We were appointed by someone with enough authority to order around a Magister of the Gray Order and get us declared rogue if we didn't obey.
 
There's one thing though. The vote is meta - not only what MC will do, but what direction Quest will take. What direction do you expect from your vote?
The same as the Wartbad vote, and Boney has already hinted that we might be getting another vote like this if the new count dislikes us, and we got another vote like this when Van Hal died in the middle of a campaign.

That is both why I'm not worried about it, and why I'm so annoyed. We keep getting the same choice on wheither or not to leave before things have settled or we even know what we are leaving. It made sense when we were struck with grief for the Counts death, it will make sense when we get a read on the new Count, but right now in between those points it feels like a "padding choice" to cut the update up.
 
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