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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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CrimsonOddball said:
From what I looked up Beastmen do in fact have a skewed gender ratio in favor of males
Further more their females are apparently noted to be more docile than male Beastmen...
I suppose it's better than certain editions where their reproduction was outright goblin slayer esque
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Times like these make me wish there was an anger response... thingy... like, love, informative, anger.

Mind you, I'm not saying its a good idea. So, so many issues.
 
*sits here lonely in my ace aro Math corner*

(ok, fine, technically aro-spectrum. 1 crush. rarely is human anything so clear as one or the other)
 
vsh said:
Huh, I don't think we bought that. Somebody's adding into our library - the Golds, maybe?
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Considering that the specific locations are adjacent to the Dark Lands, I suspect that our prisoner who's totally a Skaven provided it. He must be Clan Eshin, and certainly not a transformed Chaos Dwarf.

In other news, I learned how to make the fuzzy spoiler text because of this post.
 
CrimsonOddball said:
From what I looked up Beastmen do in fact have a skewed gender ratio in favor of males
Further more their females are apparently noted to be more docile than male Beastmen...
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GW did the standard genre fiction 'skeezy stuff just under the surface' part when creating the lore, and some of it is appropriately 'just one layer of horror amongst the others in a crapsack world' and some of it is 'oh god I think someone was beating off to this', but they backpedalled further and further from all of that as they noticed they got the most money and least complaints out of tweens-to-young-teens spending their parents' money. The ultimate manifestation of this is Slaanesh getting mugged by Elves during the transition to Age of Sigmar to neatly remove the titty-demon faction. While this means the gross stuff never resurfaced since the old days, it also means that the gross stuff never got readdressed, and it's the only canon there is for some parts of Warhammer lore.

By the canon that exists and was never explicitly retconned or overwritten, Beastmen numbers only partially come from human children being born mutant, and grown humans suddenly transforming into Beastmen as adults. Some portion comes from usually non-consensual reproduction with human women, and some comes from reproduction with Beastwomen called 'does', who are said to be timid and gentle in nature just so that even this more 'natural' reproduction is still deeply messed up.

So, yeah. Don't expect the 'where do Beastmen come from' question to ever get addressed in the Quest.
 
CrimsonOddball said:
From what I looked up Beastmen do in fact have a skewed gender ratio in favor of males
Further more their females are apparently noted to be more docile than male Beastmen...
I suppose it's better than certain editions where their reproduction was outright goblin slayer esque
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Skewed gender ratio still leaves the problem of "But What About The Female Turnskins?"
 
We had the Old World geography books before, but the +1's are new. And it is delightful to see them appearing, I must say! Our library becoming large enough that it eventually starts spawning new bookshelves on its own (well, okay, other people who use it or Mathilde taking independent intiative are probably involved somehow) is a fond hope of mine.
 
I honestly assumed it was almost entirely converted animals and humans. No skeezy stuff needed. I mean, I'm pretty sure some beastmen are explicitly just mutated beasts (there is after all the infamous beastmen population density map and Warhammer's Antarctic). It doesn't make sense to not just throw woodland critters at the Herdstones or even just try and domesticate some breeds of animals to expose to warpstone as needed for a sustainable population source.
 
BoneyM said:
GW did the standard genre fiction 'skeezy stuff just under the surface' part when creating the lore, and some of it is appropriately 'just one layer of horror amongst the others in a crapsack world' and some of it is 'oh god I think someone was beating off to this', but they backpedalled further and further from all of that as they noticed they got the most money and least complaints out of tweens-to-young-teens spending their parents' money. The ultimate manifestation of this is Slaanesh getting mugged by Elves during the transition to Age of Sigmar to neatly remove the titty-demon faction.
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To be fair Slaanesh does not have to be primarily about cheap titillation and indeed He shouldn't be. He is supposed to be Khorne's counter as Nurgle is Tzeentch. The fact that the Chaos God of decadence and obsession ended up pigeonholed as the The Daemon God of Titillation shows something of a lack of imagination on the early writers part... or maybe they were just using their imagination elsewhere. :V
 
There are books that we should really get next shopping round.

Extensive Dwarven Enchantment (the dwarves don't do enchantment, but they don't do skaven warp magic either and we still have books on it from them, and so because elves - the dwarves' ancient enemies - do enchantment I think they'd have books on it)
Extensive Bretonnian Ranald (Bretonnia has books on their enemies so I figure they might have books on Ranald)
Extensive Bretonnian Arthropods

There are also books that I think would be good to get if we wanted to go on an unrealistic but deeply justified campaign to convince Panoramia on the virtue of using our hellfire death mountain as a weeding tool.

Extensive Gazul
Esoteric Extensive Imperial Agriculture
Extensive Bretonnian Agriculture
Extensive Bretonnian Ghyran (this would be the bribe to get her to listen in the first place)
 
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vsh said:
Mathilde's been sitting in that corner with you for most of the quest, though. Must be comfy!
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She is? Where? I haven't noticed anyone else, really.
Comfy it is, though.
We've got a fireplace, a tea set that never dries up and pours perfect temp tea, some lovely music, a running debate about the political structures of the empire and its electors, very interesting stuff, some cookies, and a HUGE library. Please, take a seat, if you'd like. We'd love to have you!

Oh, the chairs are so lovely, makes you wanna fall asleep in them sometimes.

Honestly, have no idea where all this stuff came from though. One of life's little mysteries.
 
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vsh said:
Might be related to Igor's interrogation. Are they some well-travelled dwarf who got 13'd? And we're double-checking his story with the books?
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Could be. Now I'm just imagining a bearded skaven sort of just leaning back on a couch while recounting his escapades.
 
Andres110 said:
There are books that we should really get next shopping round.
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A lot of these are Bretonnian books on magic, which we cannot buy AP-free through our current bookseller. If you're willing to commission a thief to hunt them down, we can probably still get them (at increased gold cost and with the possibility of failure or being traced), but failing that we will have to spend AP to make magic-related Bretonnian purchases. I don't think you're going to be able to push that vote through.

Also I'm pretty sure that the dwarf books on individual gods are considered guild-specific lore just like books on engineering or runecraft and therefore unavailable for non-guild purchase. Could be wrong on that, though.
 
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