Because if we wait a turn Belegar will officially commission it and we won't need to spend favors.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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- Location
- Brazil
I am just not sure what else to do, can't engage with empity air, so what can I do beyond poking at logical inconsistencies.
You know this is realy bothering me I know Mathilde started as a derpwizard, but have you even read her charsheet recently ?
See the 19, 20, 24 and 25 ? For reference.
Mathield has grow trought the quest, and be every measure she is a big daam hero in a lot of way, and while a lot she did was due to luck, that is why her highest stat is piety.
Deny her this for any reason you want, but don't say she isn't heroic enought.
Kind off, but not realy, yes we were disscussing, and those disscussion included gromrill and how good and rare it was, so ignoring the gromril doesn't make sense based on past disscussions.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
He said Belegar will order magic items for communication if he agrees to our plan.
We could get a magic item with Form of the Soaring Raven for only 2 favor. Who doesn't want to fly under their own power?
It also transforms all your equipment as well so we can bring it all with us and not have to worry about that.
It also transforms all your equipment as well so we can bring it all with us and not have to worry about that.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Also for reference, Belegar's highest stat is a 20 in Martial. We're doing pretty well for ourselves.
Considering we still have an entire penthouse wizarding complex to build, I would politely ask that we cease library purchases after this turn to preserve our income. We're burning through our literal fortune at an alarming rate.
The rational is that I believe the synergy advantage from using this specific Gromil for our weapon is less valuable that the advantage of using it to bolster Belegars damaged relationship with much of the dwarven realm.
NavySeel
"I don't know what I'm doing."
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Except people have seen her use her sword in the open several times.
We fought alongside Belegar at one point, then there was the time we charged next to Van Hal.
The sword is a massive part of what Identifies Mathilde to me it's the symbol of the Grey order, and her personal symbol as a Knight.
One of her best moments was using a runefang over Van Hal after the charge went horribly wrong.
Honestly half the arguments about not using a greatsword just feel like people trying to force her into a stereotypical greywizard role when the most interesting things about her to me are the ways she doesn't fit that.
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- Germany
Well, it's definitely possible. But I don't think it's at all certain.
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- between Venus and Mars
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a welcome addition to the multispecies community of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Make no recommendation.
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[X] [LIBRARY] Imperial Texts: Extensive/Esoteric Skaven, Extensive Skaven Magic, Extensive Greenskin Magic, Antiquarian Grey Magic (2 College Favor), Extensive Amber Magic, Extensive/Esoteric Romance Novels, Extensive/Esoteric Linguistics, Extensive Warpstone, Extensive Morr, Extensive Karaz Ankor. Dwarf Texts: Extensive Greenskin Magic, Extensive Skaven Magic, Extensive Romance Novels, Extensive Linguistics, Extensive Daemons. Brettonian Texts: Extensive Romance Novels. Tilean Texts: Extensive Romance Novels.
[X] [RUNE] No purchase.
[X] [ENCHANTMENT] No purchase.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Make no recommendation.
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[X] [LIBRARY] Imperial Texts: Extensive/Esoteric Skaven, Extensive Skaven Magic, Extensive Greenskin Magic, Antiquarian Grey Magic (2 College Favor), Extensive Amber Magic, Extensive/Esoteric Romance Novels, Extensive/Esoteric Linguistics, Extensive Warpstone, Extensive Morr, Extensive Karaz Ankor. Dwarf Texts: Extensive Greenskin Magic, Extensive Skaven Magic, Extensive Romance Novels, Extensive Linguistics, Extensive Daemons. Brettonian Texts: Extensive Romance Novels. Tilean Texts: Extensive Romance Novels.
[X] [RUNE] No purchase.
[X] [ENCHANTMENT] No purchase.
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- Diamond City
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the greenskins.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a welcome addition to the multispecies community of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a welcome addition to the multispecies community of Karak Eight Peaks.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
Guile
Having a really great time right now
I wonder if it would do anything bad to dwarves to melt down an Ironbreaker's armor, thereby invalidating the Grudge- that is, there is now some dwarf out there who will never be able to fulfill their Grudge to recover their X person's armor from the Skaven?
It's not like Belegar is buying Throgrim's party line and there are so many Grudges this one is chump change besides, but it sounds like an awkward thing for a Dwarf King to do.
It's not like Belegar is buying Throgrim's party line and there are so many Grudges this one is chump change besides, but it sounds like an awkward thing for a Dwarf King to do.
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- Brazil
Most of the realm is either neutral or supports him.
This is randomly gifting a random clan in a random Hold, who might well not exist anymore, whose ancestor died three thousand years ago. It's obsessing with the past.
And Belebro is done with that.
Stranger1950
Worth It
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- Reverse Side of the World
Probably books like 50 Winds of Grey or Teen Tomb King. You know, stuff that most normal people would claim that they rather jump to Athel Loren or Sylvania than actually reading it, while in reality it has a sizeable fandom and some people secretly collects any surviving editions that hasn't been burned by the masses.
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- Aotearoa
Not certain, no, but that's more than enough that there's no need for us to spend up on a communications item to give away now, before Belegar has a chance to pay.
Valarauko
Demon of Power
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- Angband
This really sounds like you're scrabbling for examples. "Several times"? "At one point"? "The time we charged"? Two of your examples are single events, and the last is a mere handful of times. Hardly befitting someone known for using a sword.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
It's a tool of rhetoric. Presumably they are not making the assertion that we will gain more people coming specifically to see our fancy sword. Rather, they are likely suggesting that as a symbol of hope a new gromril weapon of impressive quality will represent the sentiments they wish to embrace; those sentiments might then drive the additional recruitment.
Again, though, I would request that you not downplay what we've done either. We can say without hubris that the lives we've saved have been in the thousands. The possible consequences of our actions could have only just recently toppled gods or caused species-wide civil wars (and that in the same action). Mathilde has already lived gloriously by most reasonable measures, and will be celebrated for it; that we have survived such things is good, and that we will attempt greater feats is likely, whether you believe that that is for better or for worse.
I believe the specific wording was that if they were to stick around our new priority would be enabling communication with them; as that could be solved with a king's commission, it would be what we would be most likely to suggest he do.
I believe that the armor has been missing for over three thousand years. It would be highly unlikely for this to be the case.
But again, you're arguing with the vote that is *not* in fact beating the "melt it down" option. The leading one is "leave it up to Belegar".
If he is as you say, "done with that", then what are you worried about?
DarkLight140
Credit to Team
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- Lost in my thoughts
Flying is awesome. That said, if putting magic into Mathilde's head is a bad idea I shudder to imagine what the effect of putting so much off-wind magic into her that she completely transforms and then keeping it in her, in a stable way, for an extended period would be.
While we have easy access to off-wind items via College Favor that doesn't mean it's a good idea to use them outside emergencies, sadly. Particularly anything that has a sustained effect.
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- Berkeley
I agree, but the main reason we are going hog wild at the moment is that we assume that we will want all of these purchases eventually regardless and that getting them now and occasionally getting bonuses out of them is better than just having a giant pile of silver to roll in/sleep on.
I do wonder what the economic impact of dumping this much money into purchasing a wide array of books is going to be...
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Clan Angrund and Karak Eight Peaks, my man.
Dwarves hold onto Grudges until the stars fall down.
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- Brazil
I think the place you got it wrong is that the Gromril won't be used only for our sword, there is simple to much metal for that, so the msot part will become icons of the reconquest, and making something new should e a better answers to the high kings gauntlet than backtracking and using something old as a statement when that is the oposite of belegars stance.