The Colleges could enchant some items and in the long run a form of communication will emerge.
The We is smart - it can be taught stuff.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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The Colleges could enchant some items and in the long run a form of communication will emerge.
The We is smart - it can be taught stuff.
[x] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[x] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[x] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
Spiders seem likely to both be very useful in defending the hold against Skaven, and also more trustworthy in that position - means we're not asking them to go against any previous alliances with the greenskins. There's obvious problems with encouraging the hivemind to consider breaking alliances acceptable. Long-term can wait until we've demonstrated that ability to get along with each other.
Soizic's interesting to me, but the potential issue with Ranald is something that I'd want resolved or dealt with before putting her in a position of power.
Against sticking an oar in on the Armour vote; that's properly Dwarven business, as far as I'm concerned.
[x] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[x] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
Spiders seem likely to both be very useful in defending the hold against Skaven, and also more trustworthy in that position - means we're not asking them to go against any previous alliances with the greenskins. There's obvious problems with encouraging the hivemind to consider breaking alliances acceptable. Long-term can wait until we've demonstrated that ability to get along with each other.
Soizic's interesting to me, but the potential issue with Ranald is something that I'd want resolved or dealt with before putting her in a position of power.
Against sticking an oar in on the Armour vote; that's properly Dwarven business, as far as I'm concerned.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
We could just give them an enchanted object to cast the spell we've been casting on them whenever they want. Boom, now they're talking spiders, and we don't need to hand out easily lost magical items to every human who wants to interact with them.
Heretek
Techpriest of Tzeentch
I'm sorry, did you miss the part where I said "I have heard the arguments and remain unmoved?"
Probably not. Mathilde's not quite sure how to broach that.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
She was already doing this during Drakenhof. It was kind of great how all through the push she's like 'What is with these fumble-fingered necromancers? How are they all so terrible at this? You'd think they'd never stepped foot inside a College and somebody just decided to make a necromantic apprentice out of some Sylvanian cheesemaker!'
Admittedly, Ranald showing favor on an ex-Bretonnian knight who hates him but that continuously does things Ranald the Protector agrees with... that's so him.
- Location
- Germany
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the greenskins.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a welcome addition to the multispecies community of Karak Eight Peaks.
We just established communications with some weird alien species. That's a big thing. It would be a waste to just chase the spiders away.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[] Ranger's Greatsword sounds like a good idea.
I was opposed to an extremely expensive and powerful weapon, and with this vote even more so. I don't want to try and get Kragg to spend a lot of time working on some inferior Umgi weapon. (instead of a proper Dawi one)
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a welcome addition to the multispecies community of Karak Eight Peaks.
We just established communications with some weird alien species. That's a big thing. It would be a waste to just chase the spiders away.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[] Ranger's Greatsword sounds like a good idea.
I was opposed to an extremely expensive and powerful weapon, and with this vote even more so. I don't want to try and get Kragg to spend a lot of time working on some inferior Umgi weapon. (instead of a proper Dawi one)
There is no such thing as too many books. Only insufficient storage space.
We are going to teach Wolf to say "We have a book for that!" aren't we?
Seriously though the book bonuses are more than worth the gold. Not sure they are worth Favours but we shall see.
Nice to meet someone (someones?) reasonable.
Also excellent work portraying an alien yet still comprehensible mindset.
From the Empire. Engineer family. Career soldier.
Former merchant. Tilean. Interest in the East.
Bretonnian. Knight (not technically questing). Knows the value in bending certain rules while maintaining honour.
All are workable. All have their own baggage.
More varied opposition, which will need to be accounted for.
Johann will be pleased to know the mech rats are present.
Sweet loot. No use to Mathilde but probably Favour worthy depending on what we do with it.
No less than one should expect of The Dragon Finder.
So basically we can do do an undead army what we did to the Greenskins, but more so and at will. That is ridiculously amazing.
I agree but we do not have a means to communicate yet. Why not go military ally first then later integration?
If it was with Mathilde and small number of people, then sure. If it was just matter of military aliance, then sure. But a part of society? Especially dwarf society, with dwarves that considers spiders an enemy and fights them? Just recall spider incident on road to K8P. You don't want to have spider neighbour next door.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Huzzah, we fully understand Khazalid now
Hmm, so one thing to note here is that since dwarven gold coins are worth more than imperial gold crowns, dwarf books are slightly more expensive than imperial ones; ~34 ingots vs ~25. Also interesting that the books on daemons didn't come from the colleges, only the familiars, enchantment, warpstone, and 4 <blank> magics. Guess daemon books might've come from the religious sources, same as divine magic?
Also @BoneyM i assume our salary (which i don't see anywhere on the charsheet, btw) gets added in in the next 'phase' of the turn, after reports?
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
'Only 10 to 15', i.e. 'only an almost literally legendary weapon'.
I know, I know, I completely get the whole opportunity cost and not wanting to have to replace it and how having a super-lethal weapon is never a bad thing and all the other arguments for going all in on a sword, but at the same time... I can't help but laugh whenever someone uses the phrase 'only' when describing a weapon that's in the same tier as a Runefang (or possibly higher, if the '1 favour = 10 points' description is taken literally).
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
I'd note that we can use the Matrix to enchant spiders. The only thing better than hitting Skaven with Spiders is hitting Skaven with Spiders that cause Terror.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the greenskins.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[X] [ARMOUR] It should be returned to the Hold it was stolen from, to build strong ties among the Karaz Ankor.
[X] [RUNE] No purchase.
[X] [ENCHANTMENT] No purchase.
Y'all have fun bickering about stabbing implements now, I'll be back once the fires start dying down.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[X] [ARMOUR] It should be returned to the Hold it was stolen from, to build strong ties among the Karaz Ankor.
[X] [RUNE] No purchase.
[X] [ENCHANTMENT] No purchase.
Y'all have fun bickering about stabbing implements now, I'll be back once the fires start dying down.
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Now that we know that at least some Giant Spider species have access to extremely elaborate and intelligent hive minds, i wonder what this implies for the Forest of Gloom and its Spider worshipping Forest Goblins. As far as i know, this is the only population of Greenskins that worship something other than Gork and Mork. Is it possible that the many, many spiders of the Forest of Gloom are a single massive, ancient hive mind, powerful enough to intermix with the signals the Waaagh field - and thus Gork and Mork - send them? Thus causing the Greenskins to consider the Spiders something similiar to their own gods?
This is an absolutely fascinating discovery. I hope we get a chance to investigate the Forest of Gloom in the future.
This is an absolutely fascinating discovery. I hope we get a chance to investigate the Forest of Gloom in the future.
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[x] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[x] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[x] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the greenskins.
Updating my vote.
[x] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[x] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the greenskins.
Updating my vote.
- Location
- Earth
Another thought:
[ ] [ENCHANTMENT] College Grounding Rod.
This is a thing we should have. Espetially if we are going to poke odd magic things. It's the one thing we know for sure, using College favor on is worth it and it might save our life someday.
[ ] [ENCHANTMENT] College Grounding Rod.
This is a thing we should have. Espetially if we are going to poke odd magic things. It's the one thing we know for sure, using College favor on is worth it and it might save our life someday.
- Location
- Austria
I would say that we might want to mention that, if possible, we'd like to be able to use it as a staff?
Mind, not a dealbreaker, but it'd certainly be a very useful option.
57 K8P gold coins, helpfully pre-tithed.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
- Location
- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
Good lord. Poison that paralyzes and leaves the victim almost completely intact. Spidersilk for the taking.
Trade! We must have trade with the Hive!
Trade! We must have trade with the Hive!
Oh holy Ranald... It's the ultimate anti-undead ability...
On the runic item vote, how would people feel about voting for a bastard sword rather than a greatsword?
IIRC Boney has confirmed that all our skills would work with a bastard sword and it keeps us able to get/use a staff as well in the future.
EDIT: Plus Mathilde is small so it doesn't really comprimise our "tiny wizard with huge sword" chic!
IIRC Boney has confirmed that all our skills would work with a bastard sword and it keeps us able to get/use a staff as well in the future.
EDIT: Plus Mathilde is small so it doesn't really comprimise our "tiny wizard with huge sword" chic!
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- Location
- Germany
If we didn't have our belt and were offered it now, would you think we shouldn't bother with it?
People seem to forget how awesome even a 15 point item is.
- Location
- Austria
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the greenskins.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
Right.
We want to plan ahead library, right?
@BoneyM , is it possible to request the books on languages in general and/or on language teaching in particular? In light of next turn being about figuring out how to talk to spiders.
Other than that, I, personally, do not have firm ideas on the matter of books to order.
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be a powerful military ally against the Skaven.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] Make no recommendation.
Right.
We want to plan ahead library, right?
@BoneyM , is it possible to request the books on languages in general and/or on language teaching in particular? In light of next turn being about figuring out how to talk to spiders.
Other than that, I, personally, do not have firm ideas on the matter of books to order.