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So are we going to need to do the other deployment actions in kislev and the empire or will the governments handle that without us?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Please, you are Caledor Dragontamer, master of the Vortex, wielder of power greater than gods. You don't have a boss. Or manpower beyond the mages who got stuck in the Vortex with you. And no one can really reach you to either add or detract from your manpower. Maybe you feel vaguely sorry for the poor sods frozen in time with the care packages just beyond the walls. But still, you do have dozens of archmages sitting in the vortex with you and they don't have much better to do. Honestly having something new to do is probably a godsend for relieving boredom.
Such as Kislevite deity larping?
I do wonder if our work is sufficient to strengthen the vortex and keep the archmages within that Nkari won't have an easy time escaping.
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I'd imagine that if the halflife of warp stone is anywhere over a hundred thousand years, then they don't have enough data to draw conclusions yet.
On the other hand, grinding up uranium really won't change the amount of radiation it emits, I think. And uranium won't just evaporate into radiation, it sticks around even though it emits.
Mental models may not match reality here.
"Hey Gretel, do you have an apprentice we can put in charge of another bunch of territory yet? How about Wolfheart, what's he up to these days?"
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I just noticed a rather amusing irony.
It is kind of funny that after the absloute clusterfunk that is the empire turning against itself whenever they are finally pushing back Sylvania, so as to not get someone popular enough from crushing the vampire menace to end the age of three emperors. It end up that going the exact opposite with someone who had already crushed them and well on the way to subdue Sylvania getting chosen as a political compromise candidate.
History does like to Rhymes after all.
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Sure, but we do know that warpstone does in fact evaporate into gas. We can conjecture it does this at a low level all the time, to explain why it produces Dhar. And if that's the hypothesis, then guessing the surface area makes a difference is a plausible idea.
Testing it would be quite simple, though also dangerous and illegal.
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Ah, I hadn't realised that the Leyline component was so cheap to include. Okay, it's not worth making a rivers-only version. A cheap Leyline-only version and an expensive Leyline-only version should be good enough, unless the thread unexpectedly decides to look into Material transmission.
(Which wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, mind you - even if we never make a Waystone with it, the chance to learn how these various extremely knowledgeable magic-users manage that could be extremely useful for enchanting someday.)
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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We don't know that Warpstone evaporates. That's the leading theory but there's no actual proof.
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If it's an old ones orbital platform, that could help explain why and how it keeps coming back every time it gets shoved away.
Me too, but we didn't pick the "dedicate the Waystones to a human diety" option, we picked the "dedicate the Waystones to Hekarti but be subtle about it" option, so we're not going to find out the identity of Hekarti's supposed human guise from House Tindomiel's Waystones.
Article: Sarumar - Temptation, fulfillment, discipline, the Watcher in the Dark.
...They sent the guy named The Watcher in the Dark, Discipline, and Temptation to Watch over his colleague in a Dark land, mantain Discipline and ensure he doesn't fall into Temptation.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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If it was, I doubt the Slann would be attempting to destroy it.
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Do you have a quote on that? I thought that was exactly the point under contention.
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One of my favourite parts is, for someone who doesn't know about Mathilde's relationship with Dwarves, this look the two Kings give Thorek would probably be interpreted as, "Does this mad Umgi mage really think we're buying any of this shit?"
While of course it's actually closer to, "Is this one of those fabled Mathilde-brand miracles we're being offered right now?"
Thorek: Nods once.
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We know it does evaporate from the ratling gun paper, because explosive transition into dhar, which for a short time acts as an tangible gas, which is how the bullets are fired. Someone quoted that a few pages back.
What we don't know is whether it does this without an external trigger like in the ratling gun. It's plausible and explains why warpstone emits Dhar, but it's not a given.
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deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I wouldn't describe that as evaporation though. That's a detonation.
If you trust those governments to handle it without you, you can leave it entirely in their hands. If you think there's something that should be prioritized, it's best to do it yourself.
That's Eltharin for you. Every word has so many meanings that you can't do anything without it seeming to be foreshadowed by destiny.
It's a detonation produced by evaporation. Or, well, technically it's sublimation, since it's solid to gas, and evaporation means liquid to gas. But it goes from something dense to something that really doesn't want to be dense (gas) and so it pushes all the surrounding stuff away. Gunpowder works the same way. Solid thing becomes a cramped gas and is mad about it.
Parabola
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I'm not arguing that a riverine-only model would be bad (riverine-only leylines do have the advantage of making the Foundation component easier/cheaper, which could pair up nicely with the cheaper versions of the other components), I'm only arguing that hybrid riverine/Caledor leylines are in fact the most costly/difficult of the leyline options and thus it'd be a bit of a waste to use the hybrid model in places where there are no rivers.
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It might be worth it to make a stripped down riverine-only waystone if we go for the mobile waystones on boats idea. If we don't do that it's probably not worth it.
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Understated thing is "blackwater that's waaaay less blackwater-y AND dotted by a ton of Dwarven fortifications" is that's gonna open up a ton of livable territory that dwarves aren't going to be terribly interested in filling the economic niche of. I predict that there are going to be fishing villages popping up before the fortifications are even halfway done.
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Yes, that was my position as well.
Even then, for removing "Simple/Trivial" implementation costs it wouldn't be worth it.
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Well probably not quite then. Until all the weird beasties die of dhar starvation or what have you. There is shit up there thats really ,really scary, and far more likely to venture out of the deep than the stuff thats in middle of the ocean.
Parabola
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Given the Black Water's population of Dhar-affected water-life, that might have to wait a few decades before it's deemed safe enough even for Umgi... though certainly, humans have settled in worse locations over the years.
I think Boney recently mentioned that the rivers of the old world are bizarrely stable and put down to old one engineering.