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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
I pick up a piece of string and connect the scrap of paper with 'Widow-Maker??' scrawled on it and then walk across the room, ducking over numerous other pieces of string, to connect it to the section labelled 'Ancient Widow'. Then I think further, hesitate, then take a deep breath and also connect the 'Widow-Maker??' to a dusty corner of the room, where a section labelled 'Amazons' has a subsection labelled 'Rigg', which itself has a bit of paper next to it with 'absent husband?' written on it. Then I look at the other major connection to that section that connects to Rigg's daughter, and need to sit down and think for a while.
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Gotta give a shout out to @Andres for pulling on this particular thread a while ago, leading to a short back and forth with yours truly that might be of interest to anyone wishing to dig into this tidbit. See also the bottom of this post regarding Rigg.
 
StormySky said:
It's actually even harder, since stealing the means of production for We-silk would be less rustling clueless livestock and more kidnapping a sapient being fully capable of making their displeasure known in intelligent ways. On top of the whole giant spider hivemind swarm thing.
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As Boney described, that's what the Normans did though, and it worked for them.
 
Alratan said:
As Boney described, that's what the Normans did though, and it worked for them.
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The Norman stole silkworms, whose maximum length is 6 cms, have the intelligence of an insect and lack any dangerous features. You can literally put several on your pockets. A We egg-layer is the size of a small house, fully sapient and surrounded by a swarm of very protective and very poisonous human-sized spiders. I would like to see anyone trying to discreetly sneak around the Karak while transporting them.
 
K von Carstein said:
The Norman stole silkworms, whose maximum length is 6 cms, have the intelligence of an insect and lack any dangerous features. You can literally put several on your pockets. A We egg-layer is the size of a small house, fully sapient and surrounded by a swarm of very protective and very poisonous human-sized spiders. I would like to see anyone trying to discreetly sneak around the Karak while transporting them.
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The Normans stole entire communities, looms included.
 
Boney said:
Silk was a Chinese monopoly until a pair of Nestorian priests on Emperor Justinian's payroll smuggled some silkworms across a continent in hollowed-out walking sticks. Then the Byzantine monopoly got broken by the Norman Kingdom of Sicily raiding them and stealing entire towns, populations and all, that were dedicated to silk production while the Byzantines were distracted by a crusade. Then the Byzantine and Siculo-Norman monopoly got broken after the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor got into a slapfight over southern Italy and the diaspora from that spread the secret of silk to pretty much everywhere.
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Once again history proving that it's weirder than fiction.
 
Random thought: I wonder if titans used to have giant-spider silk clothes. Was thinking that the scale from them to silk worms would be about right, and if they are the origin of the giant spider breeds who fractured after green skins and the maw then it would explain a lot about where those species came from and why they seem suited to symbiotic roles.
 
AFTER elfcation and way stone projects settle itself, which deathwar/project would you like Mathilde to tackle, why?

From a meta perspective, I want to read about Bretonnia, so iron orcs it is for me.

From a in character perspective, Karak Varn or silver road wars. The former especially for its location on the canal route, benefits two realms simultaneously.
 
The Lone badger said:
We really should spend some time preparing for the Everchosen Ball.
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We know it's coming but honestly I don't think there is any good solution to the end times debacle (the mere mention of it leaves a bad taste). How is a quest going to be moulded around it? 10 irl years of death war? I imagine few would plan/want to do that. I honestly just wish it can be butterflied away or can be remoulded into something more palatable.

Doing these Mordheim/varn/iron orc campaigns all contribute to preparing the civilised states for it. We are basically doing EEC (but waystone) as a precursor to some deeper level of mutual defence pacts.
 
The Lone badger said:
We really should spend some time preparing for the Everchosen Ball.
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Impressing Shadow Warriors enough so they show up to return the favor in the 13th Bclack Crusade would be interesing. Also it is a good strategy to make connections we can call them in for the battle I think. Better than even making ourselves more killy.
 
RwconHD said:
We know it's coming but honestly I don't think there is any good solution to the end times debacle (the mere mention of it leaves a bad taste). How is a quest going to be moulded around it? 10 irl years of death war? I imagine few would plan/want to do that. I honestly just wish it can be butterflied away or can be remoulded into something more palatable.

Doing these Mordheim/varn/iron orc campaigns all contribute to preparing the civilised states for it. We are basically doing EEC (but waystone) as a precursor to some deeper level of mutual defence pacts.
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I was more referring to the pre-season elimination event to determine who will be the everchosen (and to which Matthilde is invited). We presumably want to attend, even if it's just to scope out the competitors and possibly try to ensure one of the stupider "raaargh charge!" bosses ends up with the crown rather than someone with more strategic nous.
 
The Lone badger said:
I was more referring to the pre-season elimination event to determine who will be the everchosen (and to which Matthilde is invited). We presumably want to attend, even if it's just to scope out the competitors and possibly try to ensure one of the stupider "raaargh charge!" bosses ends up with the crown rather than someone with more strategic nous.
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That seems like another accidental ritual in the making not unlike what happened with Mork. Matthilde very much could accidentally find herself forced to become everchosen,
 
The Lone badger said:
I was more referring to the pre-season elimination event to determine who will be the everchosen (and to which Matthilde is invited). We presumably want to attend, even if it's just to scope out the competitors and possibly try to ensure one of the stupider "raaargh charge!" bosses ends up with the crown rather than someone with more strategic nous.
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For all we know, some of the competitors are ogres, Cathayan, beastmen from Tilea, Norcan, step nomades or aby other far away places. I'm not keen on running all over the continent trying to assassinate highly dangerous people out of an ooc motivation.
 
With no real information on when or where the next great invasion will happen or any targets to kill or destroy in the horde, what we should do to prepare is not really different from what we've been doing. Get more Waystones up, smack around anything that draws more attention than normal in Kislev, north and east Empire and the dwarves and keep on turning AV into stuff that other people can use. None of which really stands out as anti-Everchosen invasion stuff so much as Matty's normal schedule.
 
If we wanted to confront other Everchosen candidates, it might genuinely be as easy as starting to take general anti-chaos options like the chaos orcs.

Like, our Patron is the Luck God and the one who wants us to engage with Everchosenbowl is the Fate Chaos God. If we go looking, I bet we'd just find something.
 
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The Lone badger said:
I was more referring to the pre-season elimination event to determine who will be the everchosen (and to which Matthilde is invited). We presumably want to attend, even if it's just to scope out the competitors and possibly try to ensure one of the stupider "raaargh charge!" bosses ends up with the crown rather than someone with more strategic nous.
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I don't believe it's a singular event to which Mathilde is 'officially invited' but rather a series of ongoing showdowns that have already started.
 
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