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- Deep in a bog
Dang this is good.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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fishsicles
ate a calculator to gain its power
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- Alexander Horned Earth
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- They/Them
Honestly though.
He's more than qualified. Hell, Thorgrim's candidacy came about from rediscovering the Norse Dwarves, but retaking K8P seems to have actually stuck. Were it not for the poking of cultural divides, I'd call him a shoo-in even without Thorgrim's hand on the tiller.
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- Classified
It is actually powering megaprojects, but more importantly, it's powering the anti-magic wards that stop Dwarfs from petrifying from all the ambient magic in the world.
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- My room.
The Rune of Eternity keeps all dwarfs from turning to stone from the slightest magical breeze.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I don't think anyone in the thread raised this idea.
Thogrim may or may not make Belegar heir, but it won't be because he thinks Belegar needs to be informed about what all that magic is being used for - he's threaded that needle quite adoritly here.
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JayTar
Idea briefcase
From a decision making perspective the answer Mathilde and Belegar came to seems roughly equivalent to the real answer. "The power must flow or else really really bad things happen to the Dwarves."
You will make the same choices either way in all but the most extreme situations.
You will make the same choices either way in all but the most extreme situations.
I have three thoughts:
The first is that I didn't consider for a moment what this choice would require of Belegar. And as good as it is to see him thread the needle, it hurts to have caused him yet more existential anguish.
The second is that Thorgrim is a creative old fossil. He actually managed to give a reply that can impart the needed information without breaking his oath. And even managed it with a suitable amount of drama.
The third… is that we haven't actually gotten confirmation of whether we can start poking Karak-Waystones and finding out how reverse-engineerable they are.
That part of the action is still coming, I just wanted to get the interpersonal stuff up since it ended up taking more space and thought than I expected, and because people were worried for how it would turn out.
Ah, Belegar. So close to the truth, yet so far. But I'm really glad this went well.
And hopefully that helps heal the rift between Belegar and Throgrim. I don't expect it to end up in complete forgiveness - no, even if it was for what he thought was the right reason, the "die well" was still pretty bad, and Dwarfs don't forget so easily. But at least, the threat of the Dwarf equivalent of a civil war has probably been defused.
And hopefully that helps heal the rift between Belegar and Throgrim. I don't expect it to end up in complete forgiveness - no, even if it was for what he thought was the right reason, the "die well" was still pretty bad, and Dwarfs don't forget so easily. But at least, the threat of the Dwarf equivalent of a civil war has probably been defused.
So what I am hearing from this chapter is that we should start reclaiming more lost holds.
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- being near locations is my passion.
The interpersonal stuff was worth it's own chapter.
Even if part of the implied message was suggesting the possibility of it being turned on full time if Karaz-a-Karak-K8P relations need more healing, it'd be silly to have it on 24/7 now when there's nothing in place to take advantage of it.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
It's also impressive as hell that Boney managed to reverse-engineer an answer which is extremely plausible from the perspective of the characters and what they know without actually being the correct answer. I know that as a writer it's often very tempting to have people Sherlock their way to the correct answer, because you're drawing a path through the maze of deduction backwards from the endpoint all the way to the entrance. Drawing that path forwards to something wrong without making the characters look foolish, despite knowing exactly which way the characters should go, is genuinely hard.
Thorgrim's back-up plan was probably the same as Karak Vlag's runesmiths employed. Gather all the Old Hold monarchs together, inform them what's what, and then take the Slayer's Oath to cleanse his sin.
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- USA
If, Ancestors forbid, Thorgrim drops dead tomorrow and it comes down to a vote, Belegar is a shoo-in. Other Kings can boast more experience, but there's no contesting Belegar's accomplishments.
Mathilde was in the Karak so he had no reason to be concerned. After everything she's done I'd hope that would take weight off any Dwarf's shoulders the same way having a Longbeard on the job should.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Only until Mathilde 'Legally a Dwarf' Weber becomes a dark horse candidate.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Oh thank goodness.
As I somewhat suspected would happen, the exact specifics regarding the Rune of Valaya weren't shared, but the usage of the magic energy to fuel great works was.
I'd have been satisfied with just that, but Belegar and Mathilde also seem to have cottoned on to the potentially existential stakes of that energy's usage, which will probably do wonders for helping mend the KaK-K8P rift.
As one last topic of discussion - we knew that the "Gas-Forge of Morgrim" was one of the lost wonders, but I don't think anyone considered that it might have been present in K8P all along.
As I somewhat suspected would happen, the exact specifics regarding the Rune of Valaya weren't shared, but the usage of the magic energy to fuel great works was.
I'd have been satisfied with just that, but Belegar and Mathilde also seem to have cottoned on to the potentially existential stakes of that energy's usage, which will probably do wonders for helping mend the KaK-K8P rift.
As one last topic of discussion - we knew that the "Gas-Forge of Morgrim" was one of the lost wonders, but I don't think anyone considered that it might have been present in K8P all along.
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- Oklahoma
Temporarily, but I think it overall reduced his existential anguish in a number of ways.
First- he's no longer dealing with Schrodinger's High King. This means that he'll regret his previous thoughts toward him, but now knows what actions he should take going forward- it is now a past failure, rather than a continuing one.
Second, and more importantly- it makes it worth it. Belegar has worried, since the expedition succeeded, that it wasn't worth the cost. Previously, all he had to hold on to was reconnecting Karak Azul to the wider Karaz Ankor- now he knows (or at least thinks, but the truth isn't far off) that reclaiming K8P saved the Dwarven afterlife. Everything he did, everyone who died- it was worth the cost.
Somic
It's meow or never
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- She/Her
I love this so much. Indeed, nearly the right answer, correct in all ways that matter, and one that all three people involved had to put their best good faith thinking forward to create.
Tiny stylistic thing: "state of affairs" repeated twice in the same sentence.
Tiny stylistic thing: "state of affairs" repeated twice in the same sentence.
Belegar thinks it makes it sound more emphatic. He's trying his best.
