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Good question. Canon is infuriatingly ambiguous on the matter - it says that there have been High Kings that were Kings of Karak Eight Peaks in the past, and that Ungrim Ironfist was a contender for High King that Thorgrim beat out, but it never explains how that actually would have worked.
I doubt that the whole Azamar setup travels well, so it's possible that the High King's heir assumes a regency over their home hold if it's not KaK?

Though in the Golden Age, it might have just been possible to make the commute - and Ungrim in the near-present day wouldn't have had the issue of ruling Eight Peaks to worry about.
 
It would be interesting if We-silk being available as an extremely light and strong resource caused a rebuild of K8P's long lost airship fleet.

Spidersilk ropes should be a lot easier to acquire than fabric, at least. The We themselves could manage supplying them.
 
So it looks like the Gas Forge produces Hydrogen. From the name, I'd always assumed that it was a runic fusion reactor that produced helium. Here's hoping that Dwarven airships are better at not catching fire than IRL ones.
 
Great scene, super happy Thorgrim threaded the needle of communicating indirectly to get around his oaths.

Also confused a little bit, was the Citadel Mega Project being turned on the creation of that gas, so that airships could be refueled with what I assume is helium? Was the burn just what automatically happens to the excess that isn't being harvested so it doesn't just endlessly pump helium into the air for centuries? Is it still on for the foreseeable future or was that just for demonstration purposes? Because i don't think K8P will be able to actually exploit that anywhere near as effectively enough to make it worth the waystone energy expenditure.
 
It would be interesting if We-silk being available as an extremely light and strong resource caused a rebuild of K8P's long lost airship fleet.

Spidersilk ropes should be a lot easier to acquire than fabric, at least. The We themselves could manage supplying them.
Airship-We Airship-We Airship-We Airship-We!!!

I had no idea how much I wanted this until now, there could eventually be a flying We colony that would be fucking amazing
 
"Was he waving me through a door that might soon be closed? That he might have thought would become closed to me and mine if rescued?"
This bit of reasoning resonates enough with me that I can't help but wonder if there's truth to it. I have to think that the entire Dwarf race turned to stone at once it would make ensuring said Dwarfs receive proper funerary rituals nigh impossible.
 
Hmm. The timing doesn't seem to fit Mathilde's deduction? Or am I missing something? The Network postdates the alliance with the Elves, but Glittering Realm stuff should predate it, no?
 
Hmm. The timing doesn't seem to fit Mathilde's deduction? Or am I missing something? The Network postdates the alliance with the Elves, but Glittering Realm stuff should predate it, no?
The Runes of Valaya were powered prior to the network being constructed too, they only needed the network once the Ancestors left and things started to fall apart. A similar thought process could apply to the Underearth and Glittering Realm, the Ancestors and their works once powered them, then they left, then the remaining Dwarves needed to cobble together a replacement from the Waystone network.
 
To be honest... I'm not sure I really want Belegar to become the next High King. Not until and unless he has children. Not just to pass on Karak Eight Peaks too -- because Mathilde pointed out that hypothetically, he could give it to his cousins -- but because of, well, having children and hopes for the future.

The previous High King had children; the current one did not have any, because he came off of a triumphant (if bitter-sweet) victorious "We just beat the Everchosen and discovered the north Dwarfs!" straight into "The power is running out. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck." and as a result didn't feel enough hope or feel secure enough for the future to have children; and Belegar, too, is stressing out so much about "Not getting it wrong for Karak Eight Peaks" that he worries about having children.

If Belegar goes from worrying just about Karak Eight Peaks alone, to worrying about all of the Karaz Ankor... well, that'll be 2 generations of High Kings probably not having children. Maybe enough to set a new pattern. That's not the end of the world or anything; if nothing else, because High Kings have probably not had children before, of course. But it is a sign. If your rulers are having children and being like King Kazador, you probably feel pretty optimistic and confident about your life and the health of your Karak, right? If your rulers are more like King Ungrimm or High King Grudgebearer... well, you're probably not very enthusiastic about life. Probably more focused on pride or grudges or quiet dignity.

I want happier, or less-stressed, High Kings, basically. I want the position to not be seen as just, or primarily, the position which you feed a sacrifice of your most even-keeled and most stoic Dwarf too and hope you get a century or two of good rulership out of him. I mean, it is a position where you want your best for it of course. Just... don't want it to be a place where happiness goes to die.

Of course, if Belegar can marry, have children, and also still later become High King too... that'd be fine, too. Heck, if Thorgrim can marry and have children, that'd be great too. What better and more clear sign of the changing of the times could there be, if Karaz-A-Karak saw Thorgrimm Grudgebearer marrying and having children? ... Aside from all the reclaimed Karaks and avenged Grudges I mean.

But while the other Karaks might be feeling and seeing the changing of the tide, Karaz-A-Karak might have been in "We have nothing else but our pride and our way of life" mode for a long while -- when you suspect you are going to meet your maker, even if you have not been precisely told this by your leaders but you can still sense it in the mood, one of the things that can motivate you to still keep up your work ethic and loyalty-unto-death... is pride and stubbornness. A person with no hope for the future, might instead lean on pride and appeal to tradition as explanations for why he should keep working and fighting and holding the line. And getting a person to change his ways out of that position would be tricky; his pride is what kept him fighting on his feet! To a person like that, other people changing or doing weird or different things, might feel like a burr. They aren't in secure enough territory or mindstate to be able to change or try risky things, so seeing somebody discard traditions or experiment -- or succeed at doing things differently -- is probably not a pleasant sight. But seeing Thorgrim not just being revanchist, rather than pseudo-Slayer, but potentially happy? Or with time enough to marry? That could be a thing for the Karaz-A-Karak Dwarfs to point to and go "Huh."
 
Hmm. The timing doesn't seem to fit Mathilde's deduction? Or am I missing something? The Network postdates the alliance with the Elves, but Glittering Realm stuff should predate it, no?
Yes and No. IIRC, the Ancestors were still around when the dwarves and elves first met. Boney has also stated that the Dwarven Waystone Network was the dwarves' solution for powering the works of the Ancestor Gods after said Gods left without leaving instruction manuals on how to actually power them.
 
The previous High King had children; the current one did not have any, because he came off of a triumphant (if bitter-sweet) victorious "We just beat the Everchosen and discovered the north Dwarfs!" straight into "The power is running out. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck." and as a result didn't feel enough hope or feel secure enough for the future to have children; and Belegar, too, is stressing out so much about "Not getting it wrong for Karak Eight Peaks" that he worries about having children.
I'm pretty sure Alriksson didn't have children, that's why the Council of Kings held a contest between Thorgrim, Ungrim and Belegar's father to see who would take the throne. Thorgrim is Alriksson's nephew by his sister, but he is not known to have had children as far as I'm aware.
 
Yes and No. IIRC, the Ancestors were still around when the dwarves and elves first met. Boney has also stated that the Dwarven Waystone Network was the dwarves' solution for powering the works of the Ancestor Gods after said Gods left without leaving instruction manuals on how to actually power them.
It might have been the case that the Karak-Waystones were made by the Ancestor Gods; and that the Golden Age Dwarfs made the normal Waystones together with the Elves to supplement their energy needs.

After all, it was mentioned that the Elf system was disconnected from the Dwarf system. Meaning it could be the case that the Dwarfs had enough energy from the Karak-Waystones for critical things like the Rune of Valaya... but maybe not all the Great Works, all at once.

Maybe that was why the Elves' leyline system was intertwined with the Dwarfs system; because the Dwarfs were also getting energy from the Waystones, which both they and the Elves made together.

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I'm pretty sure Alriksson didn't have children, that's why the Council of Kings held a contest between Thorgrim, Ungrim and Belegar's father to see who would take the throne. Thorgrim is Alriksson's nephew by his sister, but he is not known to have had children as far as I'm aware.
"The high king did not escape the fray unscathed, for atop his Throne of Power, Alriksson had advanced deep into the thick of the battle, felling many foes. He now bore grievous wounds that showed no sign of healing, although the stoic high king remained unbowed, allowing no slowing of the vigour that had marked his long life. He had, however, lost his sons in the battle, and felt that the Karaz Ankor was growing separated by more than just distance and foes. Therefore, he called for a Council of Kings, something not done in over three centuries."

His sons were killed in the war. That was in part one of the reasons why he called for a council.
 
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Good question. Canon is infuriatingly ambiguous on the matter - it says that there have been High Kings that were Kings of Karak Eight Peaks in the past, and that Ungrim Ironfist was a contender for High King that Thorgrim beat out, but it never explains how that actually would have worked.
The throne of power is movable and when it comes down to it that's the most important part of being high king.
 
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I'm pretty sure Alriksson didn't have children, that's why the Council of Kings held a contest between Thorgrim, Ungrim and Belegar's father to see who would take the throne. Thorgrim is Alriksson's nephew by his sister, but he is not known to have had children as far as I'm aware.
According to the wiki Alriksson did have sons but they all died in battle, hence the need for a Council to select a new heir.
 
I doubt that the whole Azamar setup travels well, so it's possible that the High King's heir assumes a regency over their home hold if it's not KaK?
It actually travels very well- it is Dwarfen law that the High King cannot sit anywhere except for the Throne of Power.

So when the High King leads his Throngs to war, he does so while sitting atop the Throne of Power, hefted by his chosen Thronebearers.

It is said that greater daemons and dragons have slightly damaged some of the decorative elements of the Throne.
 
Then, without a sound, bright yellow fire from nowhere started at the base of the haze and climbed swiftly upwards, and a pair of immense but lazy flames danced atop the Citadel's two towers, so bright as to be almost transparent, and without a wisp of smoke emerging from it.

So it looks like the Gas Forge produces Hydrogen. From the name, I'd always assumed that it was a runic fusion reactor that produced helium. Here's hoping that Dwarven airships are better at not catching fire than IRL ones.

Hydrogen emits ultraviolet and blue light when burning, not yellow. Is this supposed to be some other gas, some impurity in the hydrogen, or just an oversight?

In Fig 2, you can see the small blue (hydrogen) flames from the main engines and the large white-yellow (ammonium perchlorate) flames from the boosters.

Also @neutronium95, a major contributor to airship fires was the use of flammable coatings on the bags. Without that, it's fairly hard to get really fast burning because inside the gas bags there shouldn't be any oxygen, and outside of them the hydrogen gets carried away without building up.
 
Outside it is a few minutes shy of the height of the day, when the shadows are at their shortest, which at this longitude means they barely exist.
Latitude, not longitude. Longitude is East-West. Latitude is North-South. The way I remember which is which is that latitude sounds kinda like ladder and the lines of latitude are the parallels that are kinda ladder like.
 
It actually travels very well- it is Dwarfen law that the High King cannot sit anywhere except for the Throne of Power.

So when the High King leads his Throngs to war, he does so while sitting atop the Throne of Power, hefted by his chosen Thronebearers.

It is said that greater daemons and dragons have slightly damaged some of the decorative elements of the Throne.
Sure, the Throne travels, but I'm including the Waystone mechanisms, Rune of Valaya, etc under "Azamar setup" since they appear to be controlled from the Throne. I probably could've worded it better.
 
To be fair, I'm not entirely certain that Belegar and Mathilde did miss that no Waystone network=mass extinction for the dwarves, or at least that they will continue to miss it for long. Even if they don't manage to put together that all of dwarven runic magic failing means the protection from magic fails, it isn't hard to realize that a civilization which was already slowly grinding into oblivion losing their primary magic method would suffer catastrophic issues. And the loss of runic magic was one of the potential issues mentioned, by the same stroke as the loss of the afterlife.
Also, I love this exchange:
"The Eyes that are making the Second Silver Road War possible might be another example of one of these grandmasterpieces."

"If so, the reclamation of Karak Eight Peaks might have made it possible."

"And Karak Vlag," he says pointedly.
Belegar pointedly reminding Mathilde that she is just as responsible for this upturn as he is, if not moreso given she did it single-handedly, is incredibly sweet and hilarious. :V

Mathilde: You may have saved the entire dwarven afterlife!
Belegar: And so may have you.
 
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